Just how powerful was Solaris?

Started by Mr Master8 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You have to ignore me becuz you have nothing to say to refute me or you can't grasp the concept. You insulting me shows me that you don't understand. YOu do that alot. You have always done that. Not just to me. have a good night.

I'm not insulting you,

I'm telling you the truth.

You're going in circles, that's what this means: bluenuts

You're trying to tell me that Eternity can tap into the power of the residents within him,

which is untrue.

You're trying to say that Eternity manipulates his own demise when the Universe gets Remade,

which is untrue.

Now go and try to find evidence of these claims, come back and I'll reply accordingly.

But if you're going to continue to post your Unsupported theoretical speculation,

you'll get the circle dancing smilie. 🙂

I think I know what you're feeding off of.

Eternity may know what Has, Is, or Will take place in his Universe,

but this in no way means he's the puppeteer pulling the strings when he gets Owned.

"To know the Future is to be trapped by it"

On the other hand,

if you shift the Balance of the Universe BOTH Eternity and Infinity loose focus:

Originally posted by Mr Master
Other than the the Celestial Arc,

I've never seen Galactus Alter the Universe.

I've never seen any Conceptual Abstract Alter the Universe.

I did see Korvac do it.

The Writer said he could.

Captain Marvel said he did.

In the end it was a Universal feat.

Korvac Altered the Universe ...

Now how he got defeated with the necessary PIS that needs to be included in order to accomplish that with Heroes is another story. (I'm not debating this)

Bottom line:

Galactus' World Ship = the power to Alter Reality on a Universal Scale.

i'm not sure what we're debating here. if your sole claim is that the ship is capable of giving power to alter the universe in a pretty meaningless, subtle way, sure, i guess it gave him that. if you want to label that 'universal power,' again, go nuts. i hope you're not saying though that just because you've never seen the exact phrasing you're clinging to used in relation to galactus, that it means he's INCAPABLE of the same feat korvac pulled. g is a cosmic -- cosmics play a ROLE in the universe -- they're not likely to go around altering it. anytime someone alters reality, he/she is altering the universe. bottomline -- korvac used the power he had to hide and shield himself, a feat duplicated exactly by the keeper. korvac became a cosmic with his stolen power. he could alter the universe in some small fashion. is that the whole point of this?

ultimately the most telling thing about the power korvac stole happens in gotg, when krugarr (the future dr strange) captures the child-korvac (who had all of korvac's power that he stole from galactus) in a simple magical sphere and brings him to galactus where he and the power are less than nothing. galactus then reabsorbs his stolen power back. simple as that. the regained power was meaningless to galactus who simply comtinued on his way after regaining it as though it were nothing. so now he HAS korvac's power + his own. so you've STILL never seen on-panel someone say galactus is altering the universe, but, is it safe NOW to say galactus could pretty easily do so, whenever he wanted to? and probably a lot more dramatically than korvac ever did . . .

again, if hiding yourself and being unable to USE your power without getting caught is a display of 'universal power', it isn't much of one, and it certainly didn't impress galactus.

Altering isn't the same as remaking...

Originally posted by lionking
here is doom with full powered galactus powers

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doomfullgalactusnc9.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doomfullgalactus1hr7.jpg

I hate to burst your bubble, but technically we've never seen Galactus at "full power".

Even during SW I (where these scans are from), it was made very clear that after Big G absorbed his World Ship, he was going to absorb the Planets/Stars around him incase he would have to do battle the Beyonder.

So if Galactus was going to continue absorbing Planets/Stars after he devoured his World Ship, he clearly wasn't at "full power".

So Doom clearly didn't absorb the "full power" of Galactus. doped

Originally posted by lionking
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doomuniversalawarenessct0.jpg
This scan is after Doom stole Beyonder's power.

They have no relevance to your argument.

Originally posted by lionking
SUperman prime and all the superman you can think of would be blinked away.
It would take a little more than a blink. 😉
Originally posted by lionking
full powered galactus read what the scans have to say about how powerfull he is
Again, that was not Galactus at "full power".