Spiderman(No Spider Sense) Vs.....

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He isn't far off in running speed, but he is quite a bit in dodging, because the stronger a muscle in the same area, the faster it works.

Crossovers are generally written to match the characters, Spiderman simply got confidence in himself that he didn't have. It's not his physicality that gives Wolverine any advantages towards him, it's his mentality.

That cake.... uh.. 😮

false when it comes to comic logic. If this was true hulk would dodge many times faster then spiderman.

also if this was true logan the heavier of the two would have more muscle which would indicate he could dodge faster then spiderman

Originally posted by capt it up
false when it comes to comic logic. If this was true hulk would dodge many times faster then spiderman.

also if this was true logan the heavier of the two would have more muscle which would indicate he could dodge faster then spiderman

He just has a larger body and tends to be clumsy, Hulk can run at over 200 mph.

Logan is not heavier than Spiderman due to nothing short of his skeleton and you know it. his body is shorter and squatter, and not lean and made for dodging.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No it is true because Hulk is faster than Spiderman.

He just has a larger body and tends to be clumsy, Hulk can run at over 200 mph.

Logan is not heavier than Spiderman due to nothing short of his skeleton and you know it. his body is shorter and squatter, and not lean and made for dodging.

yes, but you said dodging. If what you said was true hulk would be the superior dodger as would thing, luke cage and many others

Logan body is 195 bounds with out the adamtium skeleton thats still a good 30 pounds heavier then spiderman

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No it is true because Hulk is faster than Spiderman.

He just has a larger body and tends to be clumsy, Hulk can run at over 200 mph.

Logan is not heavier than Spiderman due to nothing short of his skeleton and you know it. his body is shorter and squatter, and not lean and made for dodging.

DAMN! YOU BEAT ME TO IT 😠

WHOEVER DODGES WITH LESS EFFORT DETERMINES THE BETTER DODGER

Originally posted by python99
WHOEVER DODGES WITH LESS EFFORT DETERMINES THE BETTER DODGER

Originally posted by capt it up
yes, but you said dodging. If what you said was true hulk would be the superior dodger as would thing, luke cage and many others

Logan body is 195 bounds with out the adamtium skeleton thats still a good 30 pounds heavier then spiderman

Nevertheless thanks for the respect thread on my forum, I forgot to respond as I got busy. 😮

Originally posted by capt it up
not at all. also how do you figure out who using less effort?

And by reading carfully and using precise deduction, objective of course.

Correct me if I am wrong but, isn't it harder to hit some one that is 5'3 than a tall person with muscles?

Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
Correct me if I am wrong but, isn't it harder to hit some one that is 5'3 than a tall person with muscles?

If I was fighting a huge slow guy and I was fast, it make more of a difference. Spiderman isn't "bulky" like Logan, he's lean. He's called skinny practically all the time.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I said Speed, and I put it into proportion to strength, not weight. I said Hulk was large and clumsily built.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Short, thick bodies aren't made for dodging quite like Spidey's (not to mention the fact his spine can bend.

agian using your logic which does not constitute to comci logic. No logan short body would mean he was built for great burst of speed while spidermans was built for agility. The would mean by your logic wolverine would be the quicker of the two.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Nevertheless thanks for the respect thread on my forum, I forgot to respond as I got busy. 😮

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Of course it does.

And by reading carfully and using precise deduction, objective of course.

not when concering wolverine or spiderman.

Originally posted by capt it up
first hulk is far from clumsy. Large means nothing. By your logic hulk or luke cage would by far superior dodges becuase there a lot stronger in proportion to there weight.

Hulk is a larger target.

And for the last time where am I saying that strength=dodging? I was saying that it equal speed in proportion to that physicality. Spiderman is small and superhumanly strong, thus superhumanly fast.

Hulk is faster than Spiderman, is that clearer? Because you keep saying things that I didn't.

Originally posted by capt it up
agian using your logic which does not constitute to comci logic. No logan short body would mean he was built for great burst of speed while spidermans was built for agility. The would mean by your logic wolverine would be the quicker of the two.

Originally posted by capt it up
No biggy. your welcome. I going to up date the wolverine, windu and companions of the hall soon as well as add a grievous one and spiderman one.

Originally posted by capt it up
not when concering wolverine or spiderman.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hulk is a larger target.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And for the last time where am I saying that strength=dodging? I was saying that it equal speed in proportion to that physicality. Spiderman is small and superhumanly strong, thus superhumanly fast.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No it wouldn't since he's weaker.

If we used real world logic there not way spiderman could be stronger then wolverine a person who is heavier.

Also according to your logic I guess Luke Cage could move faster then spiderman

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No need to bring yourself down. 😬

?

Originally posted by capt it up
Means nothing when he far stronger then spiderman in proportion to his size.

Originally posted by capt it up
Again according to your logic luke would be faster.

Is his body heavier? Isn't he bulky?

Originally posted by capt it up
I comes strength does not indicate speed.

Logan is only peak=enhanced speed, Spiderman is superhumanly fast.

Originally posted by capt it up
If we used real world logic there not way spiderman could be stronger then wolverine a person who is heavier.

But weaker, again. He's weaker in a larger frame, that's two counts against him.

Originally posted by capt it up
Also according to your logic I guess Luke Cage could move faster then spiderman

Read above.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And he's far faster, once again, where did I say Hulk was slower.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Is his body heavier? Isn't he bulky?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You don't seem to understand the many concepts of speed, I understand that some characters are just uber fast just because and they are excluded), the more force that is working in a muscle, the faster that muscle moves. It's why more force put behind a punch makes it go faster and spread the air molecules around it. There is a certan point per size where the strength doesn't matter anymore however.

This does not work in comic logic. Real world logic means nothing in comics.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Logan is only peak=enhanced speed, Spiderman is superhumanly fast.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But weaker, again. He's weaker in a larger frame, that's two counts against him.

Originally posted by capt it up
Again he combat speed is slower though. Hulk can ru as fast as he dam well pleases it won’t matter in a fight.

Originally posted by capt it up
Nope he the size of a normal human.

Originally posted by capt it up
This does not work in comic logic. Real world logic means nothing in comics.

And you are the one arguing fighting skill mattering so much and jumping being useless in a fight, don't be contradictory.

Originally posted by capt it up
Actaully false. Logan has superhuman speed. Logan has feats the match spidermans.

No, and if you feel so, go find where it's "stated" like you "stated" he had enhanced durability. And show where he did them with less effort.

Spiderman's highest feats are still higher than logan's highest feats in speed, and their average is the same to Nightcrawlers or Nightwings.

I really want to see where Logan is equal to Spiderman in speed, because this is really starting to get on my nerves and I'm about to make a thread on it, and get forum consensus. Because it's only Wolverine supporters saying that he's equal in speed. (or faster)

Your deduction is like me saying "Spiderman was hit by Hulk and survived" therefore he can't be hurt by anyone who hits weaker than him.

Originally posted by capt it up
Again your trying to sue real world logic and if you do that then spiderman would in fact not only be slower, but also weaker then wolverine.

You are confusing yourself. It's simple. His body is stronger than Wolverine's, his body is lighter, it launches better.

this is hilarious

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
1. It does.
2. Hulk is much larger so he is less effective straight up in terms of speed.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But much heavier as well.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It's logic period.

And you are the one arguing fighting skill mattering so much and jumping being useless in a fight, don't be contradictory.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, and if you feel so, go find where it's "stated" like you "stated" he had enhanced durability.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And show where he did them with less effort.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman's highest feats are still higher than logan's highest feats in speed, and their average is the same to Nightcrawlers or Nightwings.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I really want to see where Logan is equal to Spiderman in speed, because this is really starting to get on my nerves and I'm about to make a thread on it, and get forum consensus. Because it's only Wolverine supporters saying that he's equal in speed. (or faster) .

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You are confusing yourself. It's simple. His body is stronger than Wolverine's, his body is lighter, it launches better.

See that does not work. Your using real world logic for some thing, but not others.

Your saying a stronger body means more strength because that how it is in the real world

However in the real world spiderman body would be vastly weaker then Logan in proportion.

Originally posted by capt it up
False. According to your logic his strength with in his muscle would allows him to move at those speeds in combat however your logic is not comic logic.

Not really he like 300 pounds

It not though there two types of logic. Fighting skill does matter in comics as well as real life. There still gravity in comics. Your argueing that the strength of a character decides there speed which is false in the comic world.

The durability was stated in the weapon x novel. Also in the civil war file if I am not mistaken.

Again gauging effort is impossible when concerning these too it pure bias opinion to discern who using more effort

No there not actually. Please enlighten me with a speed feat spiderman performed in combat that Logan could not do.

Please put down a feat I love to do this.

See that does not work. Your using real world logic for some thing, but not others.

Your saying a stronger body means more strength because that how it is in the real world

However in the real world spiderman body would be vastly weaker then Logan in proportion.

There's only one type of logic, until you can prove otherwise then don't bother saying the same thing. There's rules you follow when inferencing different things.

He's had several speed feats. Did you miss the shooting incident where logan did nothing but watch. Or if you REALLY want to go the featwar route (Firelord, Thor, Xmen).

Thor couldn't touch him. But featwars are garbage. Where is it stated that he's as fast as Spiderman, because it's stated Spiderman's faster than him.

I want to hear it now, or else I'm making the thread.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Shortening this to relevancy so it'll be back on one point.

There's only one type of logic, until you can prove otherwise then don't bother saying the same thing. There's rules you follow when inferencing different things.

He's had several speed feats. Did you miss the shooting incident where logan did nothing but watch. Or if you REALLY want to go the featwar route (Firelord, Thor, Xmen).

Thor couldn't touch him. But featwars are garbage. Where is it stated that he's as fast as Spiderman, because it's stated Spiderman's faster than him.

I want to hear it now, or else I'm making the thread.

It has neevr been satted that spiderman was faster then him.

You mean the iccident with alternate reality iron man. Did you even read the issue> Logan body had jsut been full of freaking purple crap.

also were talking speed your doing dodging feats. speed is ahow fast the person can move. hell if you wanna make the thread fo right a head I do not even have msot of my comic with me, but I have enough to match the feats I know you will put down.

whoopy thor logan did it to hulk. oh the x-men ya logans doen the same thing. ya fire lord= not useable on the forums

Originally posted by capt it up
It has neevr been satted that spiderman was faster then him.

You mean the iccident with alternate reality iron man. Did you even read the issue> Logan body had jsut been full of freaking purple crap.

also were talking speed your doing dodging feats. speed is ahow fast the person can move. hell if you wanna make the thread fo right a head I do not even have msot of my comic with me, but I have enough to match the feats I know you will put down.

whoopy thor logan did it to hulk. oh the x-men ya logans doen the same thing. ya fire lord= not useable on the forums

Hulk isn't faster than Thor.

But it doesn't matter if I'm using it against people who want to play the featwar game.

Not the alternate reality Iron Man eitehr.

So prove where Logan has blitzed someone faster than Thor or Firelord, or else the featwar has ended.

I'm making that thread.