Originally posted by bigbran
Lunatik...
That should say enough...Yes, but I don't really recall a fight either... since Drax didn't even hit him, or even throw a punch at any hero... the only time he did, was when he hit Quaser's shield, to my knowledge anyway...
However, I do remember him hitting Drax, and all Drax did was turn his head...
I doubt Drax would just take a punch and their confrontation ends there, but then again I guess that was all we saw of their scuffle. Really though, Hulk's always been shown to hold his own against Drax.
Originally posted by AccelBut, it shown that he had taken him out...
I don;t see how. Lunatik was strong, no doubt, but nothing to put Drax that high on the hierarchy of power levels, especially considering Drax needed a surprise attack to take him down.I doubt Drax would just take a punch and their confrontation ends there, but then again I guess that was all we saw of their scuffle. Really though, Hulk's always been shown to hold his own against Drax.
Two fights?
Originally posted by bigbran
But, it shown that he had taken him out...
There is also the thing that he dismantled a being that it took Firelord going in a coma to take out...
Fighting through the wave on the ground, fighting the wave through ships, and finally fullfilling his destiny too...
Taking down Delinquent...
Taking down Moondragon...
Ripping through a hastly put up shield by Thanos (but still a shield).
Ignoring the fact that Drax had to rely on a sneak attack to take down Lunatik is like bringing up Hulk breaking Onslaught's armor, even though he let him. Fighting off the wave is impressive, but Firelord had shown some shitty durability many times in the past. He took down Moondragon by overcoming her telepathy and overcoming telepaths is something Hulk's done hundreds of times. And considering he was Thanos's silver bullet, bringing up his confrontation with Thanos at all doesn't mean much.
Originally posted by bigbran
Two fights?
Originally posted by AccelI'm saying right now, that there isn't anything to say he is lower either.
That's al fine and dandy, but it still doesn't put him above Hulk. It's a bunch of good showings.Ignoring the fact that Drax had to rely on a sneak attack to take down Lunatik is like bringing up Hulk breaking Onslaught's armor, even though he let him. Fighting off the wave is impressive, but Firelord had shown some shitty durability many times in the past. He took down Moondragon by overcoming her telepathy and overcoming telepaths is something Hulk's done hundreds of times. And considering he was Thanos's silver bullet, bringing up his confrontation with Thanos at all doesn't mean much.
I'm not ignoring it, just saying, it is impressive for him to take him down, either way.
I don't know how much Firelord's duribility had to do with it... I mean, it was a massive outburst of power.
He overcame her telepathy (remember... Moondragon put Prof. X in a coma with one attack...), and then threw a knife at her.
He was always supposed to be Thanos's silver bullet...
I'm bringing up though, that he had broke through his force field. Don't see how much this has to do with him killing him...
Originally posted by AccelHe was shown to hit him twice... thoughout, about 4 or so comics right?
Three fights actually. I remember now that Hulk was shown punching Drax at least twice, which means they were definitely having a fight. And I believe Drax did have the PG at the time.
Also, when did Drax actually fight back, in the he IW?
Originally posted by bigbran
He overcame her telepathy (remember... Moondragon put Prof. X in a coma with one attack...), and then threw a knife at her.
Originally posted by bigbran
He was always supposed to be Thanos's silver bullet...
I'm bringing up though, that he had broke through his force field. Don't see how much this has to do with him killing him...
For the sake of argument though, let’s say he did just tear through Thanos’s shield with nothing but pure strength. We’ve seen Hulk break out of a barrier wielded by both Strange and Surfer in the Order. I wonder which was stronger…
Originally posted by bigbran
He was shown to hit him twice... thoughout, about 4 or so comics right?
Quite a fight to say the least...Also, when did Drax actually fight back, in the he IW?
current Drax seems to be on the same lvl as current hulk, but than again I can be wrong, don't know really, hulk seems to have total control over his powers now, well he still needs to get angry to get stronger, but he could turn in to banner and back to the hulk without getting angry.
Drax to me looked like a normal guy wenn he didn't fight.
Than again he still took on some big guy's so hmmm drax is almost the same or above, but I'm not sure.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, it actually happened in the comic. 😬 Granted, Drax had the power gem, but he still owned Hulk.
no,it's a lie or you're a liar :you have to chose
post the scans or shut up
(since i have all fights between the two, i'm very curious to see what scans can you provide for your argument)
fight (1) Merged Hulk vs Drax = draw
fight (2) Merged Hulk vs Drax = draw
fight (3) Savage Hulk vs Drax = edge to the hulk
I really don't get these claims that Prof Hulk is the weakest incarnation, lets just go back to the X factor/Hulk crossover for a minute.
You know the one where he solo'd X factor, at the start of that issue, a goverment liason tells X factor that Hulk is on the opposing side.
I think its Havok that says "So, hes smaller, grey and weaker"
The Laison says "Actually, hes bigger, green and stronger than ever!"
I have the issue where Prof Hulk first apears, they are touting him there as the most powerful Hulk ever.
I know this was all 15 or 16 years ago and things have moved on but he was still the Hulk with highest base strength by far and he could get madder and stronger, just not at the same level as say savage or mindless, because of course he had banners mind to reign himself in a bit.
He was still more powerful though than Grey/fixit Hulk or savage hulk with banners mind (seeing as how Banner had the same base strength as savage but due to banners mind could not get as angry).
And seeing as the whole mountain feat was Banner Hulk, that makes Prof Hulk pretty powerful in my eyes.
I think current hulk is the stronger of the two but writing off Prof Hulk as the Weakest is stretching it more than a little.
I have the Prof Hulk vs Drax with power gem fight from infinity watch, I will have to dig it out but from Memory Hulk ended up distracting him to stop the fight.
It ended in a stalemate but Hulk was the one portrayed as fighting for his life, Drax just seemed to be playing.
Drax did have the power gem though and really any being with the power gem even when like drax they can only tap it at the most basic level will have unlimited strength.
Originally posted by FearOfBlood
can you provide scans about this part "as fighting for his life" please ? 🙂
I could if I had a scanner!
Let me rephrase, Hulk it seemed was actually fighting, while Drax thought it was all a game.
BUT Drax had the power gem, using it at its most basic level meant he could keep tapping it to get stronger.
Seriously I was actually trying to help you out here, you say you have the issues yourself, so are you denying that Hulk distracted Drax so he would forget he was fighting?
IIRC he also compared drax to himself as savage hulk, Hulk was staying with Drax but it was taking effort, Drax was just playing around.
You seriously can't be telling me that Prof Hulk is above Drax with the power gem can you?
I have just had a quick flick through, Hulk tells Drax he won so they would stop fighting, Hulk slaps Drax on the back in friendship and Drax thinks hes started fighting again.
Moondragon then takes Hulk out from behind, ending it, I can find no scans for that fight on the net however I did find this scan from the Infinity crusade.
Drax has just put Grimm through the floor with one hit (you can see him at the bottom of the page) Hulk tells Drax "no one knocks Grimm around apart from me!"
He then tells him "This time I'm not holding back with you" and hits him,note how Drax's head does not even move.
He says "Drax glad to see you too Hulk" and hits him back, see how Hulk's head does rock back?
Now I know you will say this implies he held back in the Infinity watch issue (or he could just be puffing out his chest and claiming he did ) but you decide who hits harder in that scan, I know who my money is on...
Sorry for the three posts in a row but I can't edit cause its been over 15 minutes!
The fight is in the hulk respect thread, I admit I remembered it a little differently that it happened but memory does that.
However this is near the end of the fight, you can see Drax is playing, he sends Hulk flying into a building, the building falls on top of Hulk.
Drax flies down and says "Green man fly neat, lets do again!"
This is the previous page, Hulk asks "Are we having fun yet?" Drax replies "You bet!"
Drax is playing throughout the issue, now I don't think Current Drax is stronger than the Hulk, don't get me wrong.
I just think Drax with the power gem is stronger and if he could tap the gem properly he would be all but unstoppable.
I'm trying to present a case for both sides.
IMO based on pure strength only.
Hulk>>>Drax sans gem
Drax with gem>>>Hulk.