Originally posted by Hercules
Sorry, not up on the internet jargon, didn't realise that >>> meant more than > or >>, just thought all three meant above... 😮
Well, they do, of course.
But it's common on this forum to use multiple greater than or less than signs to denote 'significantly.' To denote extent.
So...
Thanos >> Superman >>>>> Hulk > Namor >>> Iron Man, etc.
Originally posted by AccelMoondragon also fought against Strange with telepathy, and in her words, the only reason she lost, was because she was mind controlled (which I don't believe she could beat him, but still a neat fact).
That’s basically what I said. And Moondragon blasted Xavier into a coma when IIRC she had the mind gem. Without it, her telepathy even failed on She-Hulk recently.
Originally posted by AccelAnd... the shield isn't Thanos though... his mission was to kill Thanos... I don't remember him having the ability to negate Thanos's shields.
Because it’s Thanos’s power, just like his other abilities relating to the Eternals. If Drax was able to overcome Thanos’s natural ability to survive having his heart ripped out (as a Deviant), then it’s pretty safe to say he could overcome the field using that same weakness against Thanos he had the whole time.
This argument is kind of the same as Superman blocking the OE with his vision.
Heat vision is to Superman, as a force field is to Thanos.
Do I believe it to be just an extension? No, I don't.
Originally posted by AccelLike I said, a hastely put up shield.
For the sake of argument though, let’s say he did just tear through Thanos’s shield with nothing but pure strength. We’ve seen Hulk break out of a barrier wielded by both Strange and Surfer in the Order. I wonder which was stronger…
Plus, he doesn't have to be stonger than Hulk, he has to be on his classic level of strength (minus PG)... which I said he was, not on Hulk's.
You don't have to be stronger than someone to beat them either...
Originally posted by AccelQuite impressive, but in THAT fight, Drax still didn't hit him.
From what I recall, they were shown duking it out throughout that big fight between the Infinity Watch and Earth’s heroes. You see Hulk hit him a few times and Drax retaliates mainly by hitting Hercules who was right in front of him. Still pretty impressive not once being taken put by a guy who one-shotted Champion when he (Drax) had the PG.
I do believe though, that Drax (PG) is quite above Hulk, so it is a good feat.
Moondragon is a VASTLY overconfident *****. She has been owned several times by Strange in TP. Once with a full mind gem blast to the head at point blank range. Which did nothing to Strange. He walked up, plucked the gem off her head, then blasted her with it. So don't take any of her own appraisals of her fights as reliable. 😛
Originally posted by TricksterPriestIn the fight I'm talking about, she actually fought Strange in the mental game, not just blasted each other.
Moondragon is a VASTLY overconfident *****. She has been owned several times by Strange in TP. Once with a full mind gem blast to the head at point blank range. Which did nothing to Strange. He walked up, plucked the gem off her head, then blasted her with it. So don't take any of her own appraisals of her fights as reliable. 😛
Also, she beats Apoc...
Moondragon is a VASTLY overconfident *****. She has been owned several times by Strange in TP. Once with a full mind gem blast to the head at point blank range. Which did nothing to Strange. He walked up, plucked the gem off her head, then blasted her with it. So don't take any of her own appraisals of her fights as reliable. 😛 Here is said ownage.
Originally posted by Hercules
I have just had a quick flick through, Hulk tells Drax he won so they would stop fighting, Hulk slaps Drax on the back in friendship and Drax thinks hes started fighting again.Moondragon then takes Hulk out from behind, ending it, I can find no scans for that fight on the net however I did find this scan from the Infinity crusade.
Drax has just put Grimm through the floor with one hit (you can see him at the bottom of the page) Hulk tells Drax "no one knocks Grimm around apart from me!"
He then tells him "[b]This time I'm not holding back with you
" and hits him,note how Drax's head does not even move.He says "Drax glad to see you too Hulk" and hits him back, see how Hulk's head does rock back?
Now I know you will say this implies he held back in the Infinity watch issue (or he could just be puffing out his chest and claiming he did ) but you decide who hits harder in that scan, I know who my money is on... [/B]
Posting only a part of the fight is simply unfair, post any scans of any fight and you'll agree with me that Drax with the power gem is equal to the Merged Hulk and a little under Savage Hulk.
If you can't, get ready for the worst ownage of KMC ever because i'll do it for you.
Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Posting only a part of the fight is simply unfair, post any scans of any fight and you'll agree with me that Drax with the power gem is equal to the Merged Hulk and a little under Savage Hulk.If you can't, get ready for the worst ownage of KMC ever because i'll do it for you.
Erm, that was the whole fight, it got broken up by Reed right after...also did you see Drax taking a punch from Rogue as well as hulk in that scan?
Posting Hulk spearing Drax proves nothing either, Drax has the power gem, he should be stronger than Hulk from the get go and be able to tap it to keep gaining strength regardless.
How exactley is that ownage? I have seen that enitre fight, no edge to the Hulk in it.
I try to be balanced and say that in terms of Strength Hulk is over Drax without the power gem and you reply like this?
Come on now, you accuse me of posting only part of a fight, when in fact its the whole altercation from infinity crusade, it was one punch each before it got broken up and Rogue even hit Drax at the same time.
I even got that scan from a Hulk fansite, I don't understand why people take this so seriously.
ITS A COMIC! the terms "ownage", "punked" and all the other crap thats posted around here when discussing comic book characters is pretty sad.
I simply don't think that Hulk should be stronger than ANY being who possess's the power gem.
Thats not me dissing the hulk at all, so why do you feel the need to defend the hulk so zealously?
I try to support both sides and you try to "own" me with some scan of Hulk diving on Drax? I wasn't trying to "own" anyone in my post I just think that you give any being a gem which gives its weilder power beyond measure should be over just about everyone below abstract in the strength charts.
If this makes me a hulk hater so be it but I'm done with posting in this thread, if all I'm going to get back is kiddy remarks about "ownage".
Originally posted by Hercules
Erm, that was the whole fight, it got broken up by Reed right after...also did you see Drax taking a punch from Rogue as well as hulk in that scan?Posting Hulk spearing Drax proves nothing either, Drax has the power gem, he should be stronger than Hulk from the get go and be able to tap it to keep gaining strength regardless.
How exactley is that ownage? I have seen that enitre fight, no edge to the Hulk in it.
I try to be balanced and say that in terms of Strength Hulk is over Drax without the power gem and you reply like this?
Come on now, you accuse me of posting only part of a fight, when in fact its the whole altercation from infinity crusade, it was one punch each before it got broken up and Rogue even hit Drax at the same time.
I even got that scan from a Hulk fansite, I don't understand why people take this so seriously.
ITS A COMIC! the terms "ownage", "punked" and all the other crap thats posted around here when discussing comic book characters is pretty sad.
I simply don't think that Hulk should be stronger than ANY being who possess's the power gem.
Thats not me dissing the hulk at all, so why do you feel the need to defend the hulk so zealously?
I try to support both sides and you try to "own" me with some scan of Hulk diving on Drax? I wasn't trying to "own" anyone in my post I just think that you give any being a gem which gives its weilder power beyond measure should be over just about everyone below abstract in the strength charts.
If this makes me a hulk hater so be it but I'm done with posting in this thread, if all I'm going to get back is kiddy remarks about "ownage".
oh, you are right dude... probably you're one of the few posters here who don't deserve this kind of answer, fact is that i'm bored to see posters who hate a specific char and put him down in any related debate just because they are biased. I support the hulk not being a fan (my favourites are Morg and Black Bolt) but he does not get the respect he really deserves, probably it's due to Planet Hulk and WWH events who'll put him above anyone else in Marvel comics for power and sells 😛 a real menace for people who don't like him.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
As far as WWH is concerned, as long as he kills Tony Stark, (and possibly Wasp), I'm willing to take it with a grain of salt. 😄
Here is my ideal secnario for WWH:
The magical community is on vacation and Hulk returns to Earth with unexplained power.
Hulk starts trashing heros left and right.
Xavier or someone attacks his mind creating an awsome scene where they have a battle of wills that Hulk wins for some odd reason involving being mutated by cosmic rays during his trip.
Hulk b!tchslaps Sentry to Mars.
DocStrange comes back, looks around, shakes his head and sighs.
Strange waves his hand and defeats Hulk while simultaneously resetting everything that happened.