Originally posted by brazNo, Soljer is correct. While the T-800 was distracted, Reese slipped dynamite into it and blew it in hald killing Reese and injuring Sarah. But T-800 did't die it was just his waist down was blown off. It still was going after Sarah. And it was a T-800. 😉
How did they get the explosive inside the Term...? 😕 but still, that was a 650, right? The 800 should be better.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
No, Soljer is correct. While the T-800 was distracted, Reese slipped dynamite into it and blew it in hald killing Reese and injuring Sarah. But T-800 did't die it was just his waist down was blown off. It still was going after Sarah. And it was a T-800. 😉
Ok, gotcha.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
No, Soljer is correct. While the T-800 was distracted, Reese slipped dynamite into it and blew it in hald killing Reese and injuring Sarah. But T-800 did't die it was just his waist down was blown off. It still was going after Sarah. And it was a T-800. 😉
You forgot to mentiuonthat was fater his body was destroyed by an explosion from an oil tanker.
If Punisher can do this to Ulik than he can beat a terminator.
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Frank not an idiot he has basic knowledge and its an urban survival thing im pretty sure he could get some transport and lead him to some place that he can use the envinronment.
People are forgetting than even though Frank is human IMO opinion he is much better than the guy in Termintor. Frank has good showings agsinst superhumans and has beaten The Reavers? Franks wins agsinst the first version.
Hell he might even beat the second version the same way he beat the first version. Frank has basic knowledge he knows its made out of liquid he need liquid weapons. For example molten metal ****ed it up, therefore it could be argued that acid and lost of acid could do the trick. Im pretty sure that Frank could get acid somewhere in the city.
It could also be argued that Frank would beat a T-1000 with a combination of teddy bears. It can't be argued very well, but it could be argued.
However, there is no evidence that acid OR teddy bears would harm a T-1000 at all. And the 1000 doesn't have to fight like an idiot. It's an infiltrator - not a combatant. To the Punisher, the 1000 is just another guy on the streets, no different.
Not that it'd matter - the Punisher couldn't take an 850, either...
And, as far as THIS thread is concerned, he can't take an 800. All he has is 'standard equipment.' None of his standard night-to-night gear will even phase an 800 for a moment.
I mean, I know you have a punisher man crush, I know it's hard to see your boy go down to a jobber 'race' like the Terminators....
But, if it makes you feel better, Predators or Aliens or the Robocop'd all take Frank too.
Originally posted by Soljer
It could also be argued that Frank would beat a T-1000 with a combination of teddy bears. It can't be argued very well, but it could be argued.However, there is no evidence that acid OR teddy bears would harm a T-1000 at all. And the 1000 doesn't have to fight like an idiot. It's an infiltrator - not a combatant. To the Punisher, the 1000 is just another guy on the streets, no different.
Not that it'd matter - the Punisher couldn't take an 850, either...
And, as far as THIS thread is concerned, he can't take an 800. All he has is 'standard equipment.' None of his standard night-to-night gear will even phase an 800 for a moment.
I mean, I know you have a punisher man crush, I know it's hard to see your boy go down to a jobber 'race' like the Terminators....
But, if it makes you feel better, Predators or Aliens or the Robocop'd all take Frank too.
The T-1000 was destroyed by a liquid at a high temperature, liquid meatl at hight temperature. Metal in a solid form does not affect the T-1000 eg bullets, therefore its not illogical to think that a powerful acid will affect the T-1000 because it is a liquid at high temperature similar to the molten metal.
Obvously if the T-1000 is just anothet guy on the street Frank isnt going to stay in area with lots of people is he? Hes going to try and go to an isolated area where he can try and observes anybody from a distance.
If Frank can hold off Ulik hes beating an 800, it doesnt matter because you just pick and choose what you decide is PIS or not. Any feats that dont feat your criteria is fanboyism. Its a bloody comic.
Not a hard concept to understand. Your not a fanboy of anything your just a hypocrite who contradicts himself every one in a while and is to arrogant to see it. Caps Kos Thunderball and not Luke Cage.
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Acid's a liquid at a high temperature? Take an eighth grade science class and come back to the boards, dolt.
And, go take a poll of how many people honestly believe Cap can KO Luke Cage with a right cross. Go ahead.
Two things; one, you're the one responsible for the 'CAP CAN PUNCH WIT 100 TONZ OF FORCES!!11'
Two, I have repeatedly admitted that I do not always personally believe the side I argue for will win. I have admitted that I will say something one week, if I can get away with it, and counter that argument from another poster the following week. I 'debate' here for fun - sometimes I debate, sometimes I play devil's advocate, and sometimes I act a fool. The board's a fun place to be, and taking it seriously all the time is a little too anal for my tastes.
So, please, allow me to culminate with; get off my nuts. Anytime I see you in a thread, all you ever say is "Yeah, you're retarded, Soljer. You're so ignorant, you can't debate, you think Cap can knock out thunderball but not luke cage, you're so dumb!"
And I don't exaggerate. Any time.
Lay off, you make a fool of no one but yourself.
Originally posted by Soljer
😆 .Acid's a liquid at a high temperature? Take an eighth grade science class and come back to the boards, dolt.
Acid would have a similar affect like molten metal would have on the T-1000 wouldnt it? Acid is liquid and its burns, the same ways the molten metal would. 😐
Originally posted by Soljer
And, go take a poll of how many people honestly believe Cap can KO Luke Cage with a right cross. Go ahead.
There were quite a few people in the Cap vs Luke Cage thread who thought that Cap could KO Luke so you failed.
Originally posted by Soljer
Two things; one, you're the one responsible for the 'CAP CAN PUNCH WIT 100 TONZ OF FORCES!!11'
Your an idiot, go back to my thread and see what I said. When you can actually read what I said then you get the right to comment.
Originally posted by Soljer
Two, I have repeatedly admitted that I do not always personally believe the side I argue for will win. I have admitted that I will say something one week, if I can get away with it, and counter that argument from another poster the following week. I 'debate' here for fun - sometimes I debate, sometimes I play devil's advocate, and sometimes I act a fool. The board's a fun place to be, and taking it seriously all the time is a little too anal for my tastes.
That maybe the case with some arguments but you have time and time again argued for Wolverine taking shots from the Hulk and argued against Punisher hitting Spiderman or other street levelers, so that does not apply here.
If yuou want to change your mind thats ok, that doesnt give you the right to make fun of legitamate points.
Originally posted by Soljer
So, please, allow me to culminate with; get off my nuts. Anytime I see you in a thread, all you ever say is "Yeah, you're retarded, Soljer. You're so ignorant, you can't debate, you think Cap can knock out thunderball but not luke cage, you're so dumb!"And I don't exaggerate. Any time.
Lay off, you make a fool of no one but yourself.
That doesnt change a thing. You listed Cap Koing Thunderball as one of his legitimate feats. Saying that Cap can Ko thunderball and not Luke is hypocrisy. If you want toi change your mind thats ok but dont make fun of peoples opnions. I dont give a **** why you debate, keep it civil and stop being arrogant.
Originally posted by AlfheimFrank with his normal equipment is not beating a Terminator.
You forgot to mentiuonthat was fater his body was destroyed by an explosion from an oil tanker.If Punisher can do this to Ulik than he can beat a terminator.
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http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5576/pun8uv9.jpgFrank not an idiot he has basic knowledge and its an urban survival thing im pretty sure he could get some transport and lead him to some place that he can use the envinronment.
People are forgetting than even though Frank is human IMO opinion he is much better than the guy in Termintor. Frank has good showings agsinst superhumans and has beaten The Reavers? Franks wins agsinst the first version.
Hell he might even beat the second version the same way he beat the first version. Frank has basic knowledge he knows its made out of liquid he need liquid weapons. For example molten metal ****ed it up, therefore it could be argued that acid and lost of acid could do the trick. Im pretty sure that Frank could get acid somewhere in the city.
Not enough stopping power
And punisher did'nt do shit to Ulik other then annoy him.
DD saved his ass.
Originally posted by AlfheimNope, like I said, off to the eighth grade science class with you.
Acid would have a similar affect like molten metal would have on the T-1000 wouldnt it.
Originally posted by Alfheim
There were quite a few people in the Cap vs Luke Cage thread who thought that Cap could KO Luke so you failed.
Yeah? How many credible people? And there wasn't 'quite a few,' there were a few. Go make the poll and see how far you get - I dare you.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Your an idiot, go back to my thread and see what I said. When you can actually read what I said then you get the right to comment.
Originally posted by Alfheim
That maybe the case with some arguments but you have time and time again argued for Wolverine taking shots from the Hulk and argued against Punisher hitting Spiderman or other street levelers, so that does not apply here
Okay, hold on, what exactly DOES apply here? Elaborate.
Originally posted by Alfheim
That doesnt change a thing. You listed Cap Koing Thunderball as one of his legitimate feats. Saying that Cap can Ko thunderball and not Luke is hypocrisy. If you want toi change your mind thats ok but dont make fun of peoples opnions. I dont give a **** why you debate, keep it civil and stop being arrogant.
Exactly! If it suits me for a particular thread, I'll talk about Cap knocking out thunderball - if it suits me for a particular thread, I'll talk about Cap getting taken out my a sumo wrestler....
And I don't make fun of people's opinions, I make fun of their blatant ignorance. Or, rather, I did.
I'm always civil, and am only arrogant when it suits my posting style.
You, on the other hand, bring with you huge amounts of bias and are constantly dripping with ignorance - no matter what thread you walk in. 😬.
Originally posted by godking
Frank with his normal equipment is not beating a Terminator.Not enough stopping power
Thats true but thats why I said he can obtain high strength acid to beat the liquid terminator.
Originally posted by godking
And punisher did'nt do shit to Ulik other then annoy him.
My point is that if Frank could hold off a being that powerful he can do well against a Terminator.
Originally posted by godking
DD saved his ass.
Yeah how did he do it? By beating up Ulik? No. Hell Frank saved DDs ass from Rock Trolls earlier on in that series.
Originally posted by AlfheimThe acid thing might work if Frank has enough time and has an an induststrial acid bath at hand Lets not forget that the T1000 fell into a container with molten metal Frank would have to stay alive long enough to lure a T1000 to molten metal or acid in enough quantity to damage him.
Thats true but thats why I said he can obtain high strength acid to beat the liquid terminator.My point is that if Frank could hold off a being that powerful he can do well against a Terminator.
Yeah how did he do it? By beating up Ulik? No. Hell Frank saved DDs ass from Rock Trolls earlier on in that series.
Another thing is that Frank does not know the terminator is coming and has no info on him .A terminator sent from the future would have info on Frank.
He might evade a T800 long enough long enough to lure him into a trap maybe a t850 not a T1000 or a TX
Originally posted by Soljer
Nope, like I said, off to the eighth grade science class with you.
That doent change a damn thing......when the liquid comes into contact with the T-1000 its going to BURN its going to do something similar to what the molten metal did. Dont tell me that the two situations are NOT similar. Furthermore acid reacts to metal. If you dont think its going to be similar you explain why you prove it.
Originally posted by Soljer
Yeah? How many credible people? And there wasn't 'quite a few,' there were a few.
No there wasnt go back to the thread and see for yourself there were many. GreyFox and llagarok where just two of many. What your forgeting is that those people who even said Luke could win the majority still think that Cap could KO Luke, so no you failed. There were many.
Originally posted by Soljer
Go make the poll and see how far you get - I dare you.
Why do I need to go back to the poll when you go back to the thread and see for yourself? Get the **** out of here.
Originally posted by Soljer
I know what you wrote, and I knew exactly what you meant when you said it.
Really well what was I saying?
Originally posted by Soljer
Doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong and still a fanboy. 😬.
Well then clearly you are an idiot because there are loads of scans to prove my point and thats one of your favourite arguments. If there are feats to back it up than we can take it as evidence.
Originally posted by Soljer
Okay, hold on, what exactly DOES apply here? Elaborate.
My point is this, you may claim you chnage your argument but not about the Punishers capabilities. You have always argued that he cant take out superhumans and street levelers.
Originally posted by Soljer
Exactly! If it suits me for a particular thread, I'll talk about Cap knocking out thunderball - if it suits me for a particular thread, I'll talk about Cap getting taken out my a sumo wrestler....
Actually thats bullshit anyway your arguments converning Cap and Wolverine have always been consistent. So no its not about you changing your mind its about you contradicting yourself. All the way through the Spiderman vs Cap thread you were pretty consistent. You ahve never said that Cap Koing Thunderball was PIS, the fcat is that you see it as a legitimate feat and have never changed your argument, so all this is hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Soljer
And I don't make fun of people's opinions, I make fun of their blatant ignorance. Or, rather, I did.
Because I dont know exactly how acid works doesnt change the fcat it would have a similar affects as molten metal....it would BURN.
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm always civil, and am only arrogant when it suits my posting style.
So your not always civil then...thanks for that.
Originally posted by Soljer
You, on the other hand, bring with you huge amounts of bias
Bull**** how am I biased.
Originally posted by Soljer
and are constantly dripping with ignorance - no matter what thread you walk in. 😬.
I dont know everything but you know what I dont give a ****. Id rather be ignornat on comics that be an arrogant hypocrite.
Originally posted by Alfheim
That doent change a damn thing......when the liquid comes into contact with the T-1000 its going to BURN its going to do something similar to what the molten metal did. Dont tell me that the two situations are NOT similar. Furthermore acid reacts to metal. If you dont think its going to be similar you explain why you prove it.
It's like five AM, I'm going back to bed now. I'll rip the rest of your post to shreds later...
But....
Are you seriously even trying imply that a cup of three thousand degree liquid is comparable to the corrosive effect that acid has on metal?
Really?
Originally posted by Soljer
Are you seriously even trying imply that a cup of three thousand degree liquid is comparable to the corrosive effect that acid has on metal?Really?
Ok lets put it this way. I dont know exactly how acid works but its similar to liquid at 3000 degrees in tha fcat that it will eat destroy the metal itself.
For example bullets and swords do not affect the terminator BECAUSE they will just go through it. A superacid will be similar to 3000 degrees liquid in the sense that it will attack the liquid metal itself. The acid will dissolve and corrode the metal.
I maybe wrong about how exactly the acid will affect the metal but it seems that im not wrong in the principle that it will **** the metal up.
Originally posted by godkingAnother thing is that Frank does not know the terminator is coming and has no info on him .A terminator sent from the future would have info on Frank.
Yes he does know its coming he just doesnt know when. We assume that everbody has basic knowledge unless otherwise suggested.
Originally posted by Soljer
So, you're saying that a nuclear bomb works just like a brick because they can both kill someone. Gotcha.I'm going to go have a 'debate,' 'argument,' or 'discussion' with someone who ISN'T a complete moron now. Have a nice day.
That still doesnt change the fact that some acids corrodes and dissolves metal. You are just focusing on the fact that I dont know exactly how acid reacts, this enables you to ignore the fact that you were wrong that a superacid could harm a T-1000.
Nice escape there. Your usual tactic of just focusing on what part of the argument suits you. This doesnt change the fact that acid can harm a T-1000.
