Dark Phoenix vs Juggernaut · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

guy222 With my gal

Originally posted by Ethereal
classic juggernaut would put up more of a fight. He held his own against nightmare in his own realm.

Nightmare isn't the Phoenix Force. Juggy dies easily

guy222 With my gal

Originally posted by Rewmac
Classic Juggernaut can only be harmed with magic. I'm not saying he wins though. But does Phoenix have magic?

PF is immortal

Rewmac {--Classic Member--}

Well Juggy got the meat ripped off his body till the skeleton remained and he laughed after it...So....What that counts? Like I said only magical power can kill him. As we seen him as Classic he probably used 40% of the Gem's power. Let's say he uses 100%. Still Juggy won't be able to do a damn thing against Phoenix.
Phoenix can get that helmet off Juggy is done for...

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

There's nothing to base what percent of the gem he's utilizing. You're just pulling those numbers out of no where.

LordFear Senior Member

Bottom line is even if he survives with just his skeleton, Juggy is still dead. A cosmic force like Phoenix? Please unless you are the Beyonder, you survive or very close to him

Rewmac {--Classic Member--}

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
There's nothing to base what percent of the gem he's utilizing. You're just pulling those numbers out of no where.

No I'm not. Read up on him. Or better. Ask the guy who knows everything and has all the comics. He is called Juggernaut66666...

Rewmac {--Classic Member--}

Originally posted by LordFear
Bottom line is even if he survives with just his skeleton, Juggy is still dead. A cosmic force like Phoenix? Please unless you are the Beyonder, you survive or very close to him

I was just making statements. Never said he'd win or anything... 😉

LordFear Senior Member

Originally posted by Rewmac
I was just making statements. Never said he'd win or anything... 😉

wasn't attacking you personally bud, I was just making a statement. Perhaps trying to grasp some finality to the debate

Rewmac {--Classic Member--}

Maybe or we are just kicking the nothing to keep the thread alive... 😉

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

TK the helmet off. TP for the win.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by Rewmac
No I'm not. Read up on him. Or better. Ask the guy who knows everything and has all the comics. He is called Juggernaut66666...

I only trust juggernaut6666666's opinion on Juggernaut slightly more than my sister's.

Rewmac {--Classic Member--}

So you being an ass...That's alright...

I wonder if you know him at all...

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Maybe his sister is a writer for Marvel . . .

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by LordFear
Bottom line is even if he survives with just his skeleton, Juggy is still dead. A cosmic force like Phoenix? Please unless you are the Beyonder, you survive or very close to him

There are plenty of beings that can survive and defeat DP.

Beyonder is overkill.

guy222 With my gal

Originally posted by Mr Master
There are plenty of beings that can survive and defeat DP.
Beyonder is overkill.

Mr. M, can Necrom defeat the PF

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, can Necrom defeat the PF

I doubt it,

Necrom was trying to steal the Phoenix's power.

Now after he evolved in time from the portion he did steal he became a threat, but was still defeated.

Rewmac {--Classic Member--}

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Maybe his sister is a writer for Marvel . . .

If she is as good as Joeph Loeb I would ignore that...

Cosmic Flame Senior Member

FYI...Jean Grey's gotten past Juggernaut's helmet before and used TP on him.

Rewmac {--Classic Member--}

Which should be bullshit and it is....That never should have happened.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by Rewmac
Which should be bullshit and it is....That never should have happened.

If it was Jean with Phoenix Force in hand, I think it's acceptable. Juggernaut's helmets are in no way infallible and if anything were to pierce them, it would be that.

We're not talking about like Psylocke reading through the helmets are we, Cosmic Flame?

Originally posted by Rewmac
So you being an ass...That's alright...
I wonder if you know him at all...

Partially. And vaguely. For one, I know Juggernaut pretty well on my own. Two, I don't trust many people as definitive resources on characters. And three, I don't trust opinions on characters from people with said character in their screen name.

Plus if you got that percent stuff from him, tons of people say it and I have a bad memory so I can't remember off hand, then that's just a sour kicker.