Dark Phoenix vs Juggernaut

Originally posted by Mr Master
I doubt it,

Necrom was trying to steal the Phoenix's power.

Now after he evolved in time from the portion he did steal he became a threat, but was still defeated.

Thanks, Mr. M

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If it was Jean with Phoenix Force in hand, I think it's acceptable. Juggernaut's helmets are in no way infallible and if anything were to pierce them, it would be that.

We're not talking about like Psylocke reading through the helmets are we, Cosmic Flame?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Partially. And vaguely. For one, I know Juggernaut pretty well on my own. Two, I don't trust many people as definitive resources on characters. And three, I don't trust opinions on characters from people with said character in their screen name.

Plus if you got that percent stuff from him, tons of people say it and I have a bad memory so I can't remember off hand, then that's just a sour kicker.

Which should be bullshit and it is....That never should have happened.

Don't try to build him up, any decent telepath has stopped Juggs.

Psylocke's psychoblast hurt Juggs and he had his helmet on.
Spite.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I doubt it,

Necrom was trying to steal the Phoenix's power.

Now after he evolved in time from the portion he did steal he became a threat, but was still defeated.

Originally posted by Rewmac
But for this stuff. Yeah when he was rookie he was bit fanboyish but with limits. He never said anything more than he knew or read. 😕
As for seeing it I know him and he has a greater comic knowledge currently than I think you have. But nevermind. Go by usernames, judges people by usernames.... 😆 😆 😆

There is absolutely nothing that Juggernaut can do to harm Phoenix. This would be one of the biggest curbstomps i've ever read on these forums.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Yes, I only judge people by one of the two attributes I listed. Really though, my system is as intricate and serious as it is superficial and petty and so broad that it's just easier not to trust anyone on anything completely.

Originally posted by Mr Master
There are plenty of beings that can survive and defeat DP.

Beyonder is overkill.

I am sorry but can you list five people, excluding abstract beings and beings with weapons of mass destruction that can take DP out?
I am curious but I was always under the impression that Phoenix is virtually unstoppable unless you are talking about bigger than life beings like LT, Shaper of WOrlds, Beyonder etc

Originally posted by LordFear
I am sorry but can you list five people, excluding abstract beings and beings with weapons of mass destruction that can take DP out?
I am curious but I was always under the impression that Phoenix is virtually unstoppable unless you are talking about bigger than life beings like LT, Shaper of WOrlds, Beyonder etc

PF is immortal. I will let a friend discuss PF.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I only trust juggernaut6666666's opinion on Juggernaut slightly more than my sister's.

DONT JUGGERNAUT HAS A HELMET AGAINST TELEPATHI?

Yeah but it has been "pierced" by telepathy a few times.
1.By Bedlam avatar similar to Cain his main power is telepathy.
2.Prof X during the 8th day Saga
3.Jean Grey (Phoenix)
Though the helmet should have protected him from this but it still happened.

So... by comiclogic, Phoenix would toast his brain, but by real logic, she wouldnt? I dont have big knowledge on Juggernauts helmet

Originally posted by Lord Rock
So... by comiclogic, Phoenix would toast his brain, but by real logic, she wouldnt? I dont have big knowledge on Juggernauts helmet

You mean it should NOT have been possible?🙂
Now i understand... Its tupically Marvel, they always lets us down witn low logic🙁 But damn, too many cool characters for us to hate them😄

I don't think everything can be written off because Juggernaut's helmet is magic based. If Bedlam can do it, who by comparison would be like a Juggernaut of tp/tk maybe, then Dark Phoenix should be able to do it.

And before we get into the "it was magic" thing, how far does that go? Can I beat Juggernaut down by throwing horseshoes at him or if I start hitting him with a piece of wrought iron fence because of iron's effect on magic? Because it seems like anything that has an effect on Juggernaut that involves any iota of magic has "it was magic" credited as the sole reason why it worked.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
So your sister has all Juggernaut appearances?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yeah but it has been "pierced" by telepathy a few times.
1.By Bedlam avatar similar to Cain his main power is telepathy.
2.Prof X during the 8th day Saga
3.Jean Grey (Phoenix)
Though the helmet should have protected him from this but it still happened.

So it CAN be pierced, it just takes very strong telepathi, which we knw that is Phoenixs special?

Horseshit. Juggernaut's helmet can be knocked off with physical force. Magic, my ass.

Juggernaut puts Dark Phoenix in a head lock.

Originally posted by Priest
Juggernaut puts Dark Phoenix in a head lock.

Yeah picture that!!!!