ROTS Anakin, Revan, Yoda V.S. Sidious, Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma

Started by allfg3 pages
Because he had the Tetan and Mandalorian armies? Duh

As did Kun, yet Kun still saw the need to keep up his skills, so why wouldn't Ulic?

Yes, i'm a geek. This is funny coming from a KMC lifer who has to make up shit to NOT egt owned.

You're on these boards the most out of anyone here, even when you don't post you constantly have a yellow light on under your post, so please, don't go there.

Again, you're a lifer on here that gets pwned anytime you type. You calling me ANY names makes me giggle like a little schoolgirl.

Like a little school girl? Is that how you giggle? OK..

What makes me laugh even harder is your denial about how you are owning anybody in any debate, since you(and only you) seem to think you are doing that anytime you type.

What makes me laugh is the fact that you constantly hijack other people's arguments, lose, and then resort to flaming the person, and losing at that too.

Are you really in a school for the mentally retarded?

Refer to the above. When your own insults make you look worse than the person you're insulting, you know your shit is whack. Now are you actually going to debate, or continue with these first grade level insults, because you're boring me.

Owned by who? Oh right, I butted in your argument, pwned you up and down, and you took some antidepressants that caused you to be delusional again. I can't count the times you've been owned on this forum. However it's much easier counting the times you've offered a logical argument or owned somebody..

0..Good job getting pwned.

You haven't pwned shit Sexy, all you've done is shown people that you read comics 50+ times, you laugh like a little schoolgirl (way to much info btw) and that your shit is still whack and unoriginal. Well done old man.

Sidious won the force duel? Oh my, looks like we were watching completely different fights. I saw a flat out stalemate. Sidious did NOT win that fight, unless you want to argue with GL.

What did GL say? Sidious won. "Failed I have." Those were Yoda's words, he's the one who left in defeat, he didn't win, Sidious may have gotten somewhat lucky because his side of the Senate Pod had a railing on it for him to hold on to but he still won.
He didn't necessarily improve more than Ulic, but him being a saber prodigy leads me to believe his skills develop faster than others. At the very least, he created a style nobody has seen before, so that's quite an improvement.

Ulic and Kun were both saber prodigies. Yes, creating the double sided form likely puts him above Ulic, but not by much, just creating it doesn't mean improvement, if you can't use it well. Kun can use it well but he can also use a single-bladed saber well so it doesn't necessarily mean improvement.
Sylvar is an average jedi at best.

If she was an avg. Jedi she wouldn't have been the hero of Cathar. She got a hit in on Kun in a fight and destroyed an entire colony of kiltiks in an instant. That is far from avg.

You could say that Sidious won because he got his goal and Yoda didn't.
Yoda's goal was to kill Sidious, Sidious was to stay alive. Sidious stayed alive, Yoda didn't kill Sidious, thus he failed. He didn't necessarily lose the fight....

(Though I'd say that he did, since I don't think he could have lasted very much longer without a saber)

Originally posted by allfg
As did Kun, yet Kun still saw the need to keep up his skills, so why wouldn't Ulic?

Kun also created his own saber and style during the war. Now are you going to say he did it just to look pretty?

You're on these boards the most out of anyone here, even when you don't post you constantly have a yellow light on under your post, so please, don't go there.

Please, spare me. Start a little voting thingy so you can destroy your own "unique" perception of reality.

Like a little school girl? Is that how you giggle? OK..

Yes because it adds the ******* quality when I'm making fun of unintelligent douchebags.

What makes me laugh is the fact that you constantly hijack other people's arguments, lose, and then resort to flaming the person, and losing at that too.

What makes me laugh is that you've lost every debate that you've been involved in, and yet somehow have the testicular fortitude(aka anti depressants) to lie to yourself.

Refer to the above. When your own insults make you look worse than the person you're insulting, you know your shit is whack. Now are you actually going to debate, or continue with these first grade level insults, because you're boring me.

My insults don't make me look bad. My insults look good because I'm debating with an incompetent peon who's pretty much the forum clown.

You haven't pwned shit Sexy, all you've done is shown people that you read comics 50+ times, you laugh like a little schoolgirl (way to much info btw) and that your shit is still whack and unoriginal. Well done old man. [/B]

"Oh my days".. I guess reading comics while on the John really makes me a loser, whereas sitting on this forum 24/7 constantly getting your arguments destroyed doesn't.. Good point there Noobaris.

Originally posted by darthsith19
What did GL say? Sidious won. "Failed I have." Those were Yoda's words, he's the one who left in defeat, he didn't win, Sidious may have gotten somewhat lucky because his side of the Senate Pod had a railing on it for him to hold on to but he still won.

On the ROTS commentary GL says it was a stalemate and thats how he wanted to. Not to mention that's how the fight went. "Failed I have" doesn't mean he lost his one on one bout, it means he failed to kill Sidious. There was no winner there, and if we want to argue technicalities, ask yourself what happened to Sidious' lightsaber.

If she was an avg. Jedi she wouldn't have been the hero of Cathar. She got a hit in on Kun in a fight and destroyed an entire colony of kiltiks in an instant. That is far from avg. [/B]

You can't quantify how powerful the cathar are, and she has shown nothing that puts her above average.

Kun also created his own saber and style during the war. Now are you going to say he did it just to look pretty?

How ****ing dumb are you? I was using the fact that Kun clearly kept up his skills as a rebuttal to your 'he has an army, he doesn't need to keep up on his saber combat' argument'. By your logic, Count Dooku had no reason to keep up his skills either, seeing as he had the fricking Seperatist army at his disposal.

Please, spare me. Start a little voting thingy so you can destroy your own "unique" perception of reality.

Well let's see, you've posted 3851 times, and you've been a member for 228 days, giving you a post per day of 17. That's pretty much double mine. Not to mention the fact that the majority of the time I'm online on this forum, you're on the 'users browsing this forum' list, lurking like a b1tch. So as I said, don't go there.

Yes because it adds the ******* quality when I'm making fun of unintelligent douchebags.

Whatever, you 'giggle like a little girl', enough said.

What makes me laugh is that you've lost every debate that you've been involved in, and yet somehow have the testicular fortitude(aka anti depressants) to lie to yourself.

What makes me not laugh is your anti depressant jab, here's a hint: *it wasn't funny the first time*

My insults don't make me look bad. My insults look good because I'm debating with an incompetent peon who's pretty much the forum clown.

The fact that the shit you come up with is as whack as it is says way more about you then it does me. You're lame.

"Oh my days".. I guess reading comics while on the John really makes me a loser

Again, way too much information.

whereas sitting on this forum 24/7 constantly getting your arguments destroyed doesn't.. Good point there Noobaris.

1. You're on this forum way more than I am.
2. I win more arguments than I lose, and only lose when up against the likes of Advent, AC, Gideon etc. You lose pretty much every argument you're in, and I've beaten you every single time you've gone up against me. Seriously man, I'd rate fricking Kadesh above you, you're nothing.

Originally posted by allfg
How ****ing dumb are you? I was using the fact that Kun clearly kept up his skills as a rebuttal to your 'he has an army, he doesn't need to keep up on his saber combat' argument'. By your logic, Count Dooku had no reason to keep up his skills either, seeing as he had the fricking Seperatist army at his disposal.

Did he keep up with his saber skills? OH wait you don't know. Speculating like a dumbass again. Did Palpatine? No. Then why the hell would Ulic need to? At least Kun had a justification.. Way to **** yourself dumbass.

Well let's see, you've posted 3851 times, and you've been a member for 228 days, giving you a post per day of 17. That's pretty much double mine. Not to mention the fact that the majority of the time I'm online on this forum, you're on the 'users browsing this forum' list, lurking like a b1tch. So as I said, don't go there.

Awww lying makes you feel better? Lets not forget that you've been banned 6 times and have come back the day after. So yes, I can go there because I have something to go on. And no, I'm never lurking on this shit, it is however my homepage. But I suppose since you're ALWAYS on here, you would accuse me of lurking because only you would know.

What makes me not laugh is your anti depressant jab, here's a hint: *it wasn't funny the first time*

Here's a hint: *it wasn't a joke the first time*

The fact that the shit you come up with is as whack as it is says way more about you then it does me. You're lame.

Good one forum clown.

1. You're on this forum way more than I am.

Denial
2. I win more arguments than I lose, and only lose when up against the likes of Advent, AC, Gideon etc. You lose pretty much every argument you're in, and I've beaten you every single time you've gone up against me. Seriously man, I'd rate fricking Kadesh above you, you're nothing. [/B]

Considering you've never won a single debate on here and you've never been acknowledged as a winner in any debate since you've first signed up, I'd say facts supersede denial, which you seem to have an unusually high dose of. Now when I tell you you lose every debate you've ever been in(fact), and you respond with "I beat you everytime you've gone against me", you're just embarassing yourself with the constant denial. I know you lack any kind of common sense so it's not very useful telling you facts because they go against your perception of reality and cause you to be depressed which triggers the defense mechanism of denial, i'm just doing this for your own good. You have been pwned once again.

On the ROTS commentary GL says it was a stalemate and thats how he wanted to. Not to mention that's how the fight went. "Failed I have" doesn't mean he lost his one on one bout, it means he failed to kill Sidious. There was no winner there, and if we want to argue technicalities, ask yourself what happened to Sidious' lightsaber.

When you say audio commentary you mean the Audio Commentary, right? Is it the commentary during their fight, if it is I'll listen to it again to be sure. And just because Sidious lost his saber doesn't mean he lost, it is possible to lose your saber and still win you know.
You can't quantify how powerful the cathar are, and she has shown nothing that puts her above average.

It still means that she is stronger/more famous than any other Cathar Jedi and you can't just assume that they are weak, either. Since we don't know how strong they are it iss afe to assume that they are avg. since if they were especially weak or strong it would have said so somewhere. But she also got a hit in on Kun in a fight and destroyed an entire colony of kiltiks in an instant. That is far from avg.

wow, she got a hit on Kun.. And?

When will you people let the "Sidious vs Yoda" fight die? It ended in a stalemate; both were blown apart by the collected Force lightning, and neither one of them decided to continue the fight.

However, Kamikz is right. Sidious achieved his goal: to survive. Yoda didn't. He "failed", and that is indisputable.

Did he keep up with his saber skills? OH wait you don't know. Speculating like a dumbass again. Did Palpatine? No. Then why the hell would Ulic need to? At least Kun had a justification.. Way to **** yourself dumbass.

1. Clearly Kun saw the need to keep up his saber skills, so seeing as Ulic was in the same position, why wouldn't he?

2. Clearly having an army wasn't enough to prevent direct combat for Ulic and Kun, and this is clearly what they predicted. Again, refer to the Dooku analogy, he too had an army, yet still saw the need to keep up with his skills. What reason would he have, that Ulic wouldn't?

3. He would have inevitably faced The Jedi in combat, being a sith lord, it's what eventually happened, and it's what Ulic would have predicted.

4. If Ulic didn't keep up his saber skills, one of the lower dark jedi would have taken his position.

5. Ulic most likely wanted to oneday take Kun's place, he would have trained hard until he was ready.

Awww lying makes you feel better?

I didn't lie once. Clearly if you were in a position to argue against the numbers, you would have used them yourself. Instead, all you can do is call me a liar.

Lets not forget that you've been banned 6 times and have come back the day after. So yes, I can go there because I have something to go on.

We're talking posts per day here, so that's completely irrelevant. And also, don't think people have forgotten that you're TD, because everyone still knows it, so as I said before, don't go there.

And no, I'm never lurking on this shit, it is however my homepage. But I suppose since you're ALWAYS on here, you would accuse me of lurking because only you would know.

LMAO, KMC's your fricking homepage? 😆 😆
Isn't that like the third time you've self owned yourself in this argument?

Here's a hint: *it wasn't a joke the first time*
Good one forum clown.
Denial
Considering you've never won a single debate on here and you've never been acknowledged as a winner in any debate since you've first signed up, I'd say facts supersede denial, which you seem to have an unusually high dose of. Now when I tell you you lose every debate you've ever been in(fact), and you respond with "I beat you everytime you've gone against me", you're just embarassing yourself with the constant denial. I know you lack any kind of common sense so it's not very useful telling you facts because they go against your perception of reality and cause you to be depressed which triggers the defense mechanism of denial, i'm just doing this for your own good. You have been pwned once again.

OK I'm done, clearly you can't debate for shit, and that's why you have to eventually turn everything into some sort of flame war.

Originally posted by allfg
1. Clearly Kun saw the need to keep up his saber skills, so seeing as Ulic was in the same position, why wouldn't he?

Ok let me break it down for you seeing as how your mind is devoid of logic. The only logical reason for Kun to continue practicing his skills was because he created a new saber and style he needed to familiarize himself with. Ulic did no such thing and he was busy leading an army, so explain why he would need to keep up with his skills as well..

2. Clearly having an army wasn't enough to prevent direct combat for Ulic and Kun, and this is clearly what they predicted. Again, refer to the Dooku analogy, he too had an army, yet still saw the need to keep up with his skills. What reason would he have, that Ulic wouldn't?

Nobody said they didn't carry their sabers, but thanks for the irrelevant misdirection.

3. He would have inevitably faced The Jedi in combat, being a sith lord, it's what eventually happened, and it's what Ulic would have predicted.

As usual, when your logic fails, you become the authority on what a fictional character thinks.

4. If Ulic didn't keep up his saber skills, one of the lower dark jedi would have taken his position.

Again with the assumptions. Shut up

5. Ulic most likely wanted to oneday take Kun's place, he would have trained hard until he was ready.

Assumptions.. Shut up

I didn't lie once. Clearly if you were in a position to argue against the numbers, you would have used them yourself. Instead, all you can do is call me a liar.

Except I am...

We're talking posts per day here, so that's completely irrelevant. And also, don't think people have forgotten that you're TD, because everyone still knows it, so as I said before, don't go there.

Sure I am. I guess you're the only one still in denial.

LMAO, KMC's your fricking homepage? 😆 😆
Isn't that like the third time you've self owned yourself in this argument?

Nope, you being in denial doesn't make it so. I've pwned myself many times in debates, but absolutely none have been with you. Sadly after all this time, you are still getting pwned. And if we take your 6 accounts and posts per day, you'd still win. Good one.

OK I'm done, clearly you can't debate for shit, and that's why you have to eventually turn everything into some sort of flame war. [/B]

As far as I'm concerned, and i'm sure anyone else would agree, I could be the worst debater on here and still pwn you daily like I'm doing. You are embarassing yourself yet again, so take your anti depressants and continue being delusional.