Originally posted by marvelprinceAnd they aren't just once in awhile, top effort feats. Or written up feats, he does that casually.
That just proves that his speed is greater than Alpha Flight's. How do you gather from that that he's faster or as fast as Spider-Man when Spider-Man makes his living off of feats like that?
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You need your eye's checked, only one seems to have been hit from behind by Spider-man. And that's the guy in the white hood, who may have been turned around by his punch.
guy with the green hair was hit from behind as well as the green guy was hit while firing at some one esle.
If obvous those guys were not all attack spiderman
Originally posted by marvelprinceThat's another good point as well. Talking to other people helps bring to light things you don't think of when you are by yourself.
Cause the same Mr Fantastic has been able to overcome Wolverine multiple times in the past.Not to mention MF saw him coming and still couldn't react to it, whereas in Enemy of the State Wolverine was the one with the element of surprise and still got overpowered
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And they aren't just once in awhile, top effort feats. Or written up feats, he does that casually.
Exactly. Those are feats Spider-Man does before he's even had his coffee
Originally posted by capt it up
all from behind. They were far from taken out lol
Are we reading the same thing? I only say one person facing the other way and it seemed pretty clear it was momentum that carried him that way. And we aren't debatin strength and whether or not they characters stayed down. We are talking about speed of the attacks, as in so fast they couldn't react
Originally posted by marvelprince
Cause the same Mr Fantastic has been able to overcome Wolverine multiple times in the past.Not to mention MF saw him coming and still couldn't react to it, whereas in Enemy of the State Wolverine was the one with the element of surprise and still got overpowered
not he has not. He was once able to with the help of she hulk stop wolverien from killing him.
also in enemy of the state logan was the one who got ambushed. He teleported into the room and mister fantastic was flat against the ground. I fhe had ambush spiderman the way he did wolverine I am postive he never would of gotten out.
Originally posted by capt it up
guy with the green hair was hit from behind as well as the green guy was hit while firing at some one esle.If obvous those guys were not all attack spiderman
Yeah, you need your eyes checked. I will try and help you out though, here is a bigger version of that picture. If you notice that he starts with Bishop in the far background who is facing his direction when being hit. Now look at Doc Sampsons legs his body is twisting because of the hit. Radioactive Man is twisting because of Spidey's kick to the face.
Originally posted by capt it up
guy with the green hair was hit from behind as well as the green guy was hit while firing at some one esle.If obvous those guys were not all attack spiderman
Doc Samson and Radioactive Man. If you look carefully you see that they are moving in the direction they've been hit. Spidey kicks to right DS moves right, he kicks to the left RM goes to left. All of them were just in a line and Spider-Man just ployed through them. Only one who looks like they were turning around at the time is Blizzard.
Originally posted by marvelprinceThat's what I got from the scan. Spidey was just so fast. It was...amazing, no.....SPECTACULAR!
Doc Samson and Radioactive Man. If you look carefully you see that they are moving in the direction they've been hit. Spidey kicks to right DS moves right, he kicks to the left RM goes to left. All of them were just in a line and Spider-Man just ployed through them. Only one who looks like they were turning around at the time is Blizzard.
Meh, who cares about that one scan, really? Their body of work should speak for itself.
With two amazingly well-known characters, anything less than a collective assessment would be doing injustice to the characters.
And I never really thought speed was an issue. The question in SM-vs-Wolverine has always been "Can Logan get 1-2 good slashes in before Spidey pummels him to death" because the speed argument was never in question.
To say that Wolverine is as fast as SM, or even close to it, is to give him 10/10 in a straight-up fight, which I think even Wolverine fans will admit isn't the case.
There is actually an argument regarding who is faster between Spiderman and Wolverine?
Wolverine is a mutant with the ability to heal. He's a strong man, an excelled martial artist and he contains adamantium claws.
He's good. On the other hand, Spiderman is a SUPERHUMAN. He is stronger than Wolverine (Able to throw cars, stop trains and hold up rails and such), and is effectively faster. Spiderman is one of the quickest characters in the Marvel universe and has the Spider Sense ability which gives him an edge to his speed as well.
We've seen Spiderman dodge punches, kicks, lasers, bullets, cars, shields ... The works.
Wolverine is fast, but Spiderman is definitely faster and to argue that is almost too silly.