Wolverine vs. Spiderman last straw.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes I do I couldn't have put it simplier. Wolverine's power set does not allow him to be much more durable then other people 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
So other writers will so Cyclops hitting Wolverine and hurting him.

Originally posted by Newjak
Wolverine once got knocked on his backside by a deer.

Originally posted by Newjak
You honestly think every writer is going to write the same perso nthe sameway. Once again Common Sense has got to play a factor Capt.

Originally posted by Newjak
Correction your muscles strength does equal your durability unless your skin muscles are staed to be a lot tougher like Luke Cage.

Originally posted by Newjak
Which by the way Wolverine doesn't have super hard skin since a normal human with a knife can cut him. He isn't that durable since his muscle strength doesn't allow him to be.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't know how much simplier I can state it to you Capt Wolverine not nearly that durable. 😉

And yet he still bleeds and bruises when he gets:

-Kicked to the face by Deadpool
-Hit with a dumbell by Daredevil
-Kicked by an elk
-Beat up on by Cap
-Etc., etc

Just like any other street-leveler would.

Originally posted by capt it up
So now you decide his power set? You are ridiculous and need to stop. It is a stated power of his how the f can you deny he ahs a stated power?

Hurt thim? You mean annoy him then yes.

Your point? Deers kcik with a few thousand pounds of pressure they could easily send a 295 man back words.

You seem to have lost it. Your saying because a writer forggott about a given power of wolveriens he does not have it? Are you on crack? It a stated ability by a cannon sources that was stated to be the origins fo wolverine in the weapon x program by marvel them selfs.

Logan were stated to be chemically treated to be well beyond any humans.

You’re an idiot. It a stated ability. His durability is vs blunt damage. He is not durable enough to with stand a knife. I still can’t believe you deniing stated powers.

I don’t know how much denser a person can get. His durability is stated to be beyond a humans. It not knife prove however the blunt damage is many times stronger then any humans.

Listen man you happen to play right into what I was saying. You know I've seen a deer kick a guy and the guy get back up. So once again Wolverine not much more durable then a human 😆

HE may been stated to be more durable he may have been chemically altered it doesn't change a thing.

If he was more durable it would mean his muscles are thicker and stronge rthus he would be stronger than a 1 tonner which he isn't. 😉

No I'm not making up his powerset the fact is the guy only lifts 1 ton at best. The guy has a healing factor which most people confuse with his durability and one small statement doesn't chang ethe fact Wolverine can get knocked around by human levle beings all the the time.

I'm not the idiot right now you are 😉

😆

Is all I can do.

I see my thread has progressed. Although somewhat useless because the other side hasn't really contributed much other than "nah uh". 😬

Where are the new feats?

wow so much anger and hatred in this thread

Originally posted by id369
wow so much anger and hatred in this thread

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I see my thread has progressed. Although somewhat useless because the other side hasn't really contributed much other than "nah uh". 😬

Where are the new feats?

I'm really not sure what you're looking for us to contribute here other than concession which everyone has pretty much already done. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm really not sure what you're looking for us to contribute here other than concession which everyone has pretty much already done. 😬

But if that's all then, I guess that wraps it up. Have fun kids, and be safe.

We HAVE given you plenty of feats to match the ones posted in spiderman's favor.. but I guess if you can't be bothered to read them.. well.

on another note, why do we have to show wolverine dodging to prove he's as fast as spiderman? That doesn't even make sense...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The feat which "beat" or matched Spidermans. I saw a laser dodging one with Cyke, was that it, because that was beaten early on.

But if that's all then, I guess that wraps it up. Have fun kids, and be safe.

I dont know about that Wolverine scan where he is shown dodging Cyclops' blast. Its a very nice feat but, Wolverine is a trained fighter, and I am pretty sure that one of the things he had to learn was to anticipate your opponents move before he makes it, hence the in close dodged blast.

Originally posted by jinzin
You didn't ask what it had to do with anything. 😐

Again we go back to reading vs. skimming

Originally posted by marvelprince
You do realize that in that issue in question Wolverine only managed to win cause of his Hydra tech right? He was webbed to the wall, immobile and only got the jump on Spider-Man cause he teleported out. I'm pretty sure teleportation isn't one of Wolverine's base powers. What was the point of this anyway?

Originally posted by jinzin
In any event, I was just making a point to the fact that the only time wolverine's ever TRIED to kill spiderman (regardless of the fact that it was a what if) he succeeded... All the other useable 616 examples he wasn't trying...

But its a What if? Come on, I'm pretty sure there are tons better out of canon stories you can use.

Originally posted by jinzin
Ahh, thought you were attempting to spell something else entirely.

No prob

Originally posted by jinzin
Because it doesn't make sense.

So you just don't understand

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm sorry I'm not fluent in nonsense.

You so seem to speak it very well 😂 Could not resist that one

Originally posted by jinzin
Again you detrack from the point and revert to an insult.

You're the one who's "reading" my points, not getting them and then calling it nonsense.

Originally posted by jinzin
Okay, apparently someone who puts: "He didn't pretend they training" as part of a complete coherent thought thinks I have comprehension problems.. Does anyone else see what's wrong with this? 😕

Wow, I missed out one word and now my comprehension and debating skills are irrelevant? How about you stay on topic

Originally posted by jinzin
So when logan kicked spiderman in the groin and spiderman was unconcious on the floor that wasn't a full win?

Wasn't that an Ennis feat? For sake of fairness I don't use Punisher bashing Wolverine as a bat and yet you want to throw that one out?

Originally posted by jinzin
That's better according to your illogical refusal to accept countering evidence and common sense.. Wolverine could stop him. He chose not to.

And again I raise the question why? I've he could why didn't he, and why did he have to wait till Spider-man stopped to counter?

Originally posted by jinzin
You don't get it do you? Wolverine doesn't even have to try to defend himself.. just flail.. that's the end of Spiderman's offensive...
Again you dodged my question.

So he flail as fast as Spider-Man can punch.

Originally posted by jinzin
Ummm no.. I've stated events and rationalities as they are, not as I'd like them to be...

Your skewed interpretation of events suggests otherwise

Originally posted by jinzin
You seem to think Wolverine being punched in the face by a force that doesn't even affect him renders him helpless... and that there's nothing to debate about that... Simple common sense kinda says otherwise.

Dust particles moving at mach speeds hit your face every day. They do nothing to harm you, but you can do nothing to stop them cause they are moving at so fast. Time to dust of some of that common sense of yours

Originally posted by jinzin
And here's the thing; When you say that and I've already seen you dodge it... and you dodge it a few times in the future as well.. then yes you probably can actually.

So Wolverine has broken through the flurry of punches before?

Originally posted by jinzin
So apparently we can add PHASING into the list of fanboy powers that seem to grow out spidey's ass on the daily. Since that's basically what he would have had to have done to nail Wolverine like that.

Or superspeed. Wait...he already has that

Originally posted by jinzin
EXACTLY.. see how irrational you're being.. "Wolverine wasn't hurt but he was too helpless to defend himself".. dur

Too fast for him to do anything bout it

Originally posted by jinzin
Who says he had to? Oh that's right ONLY the people arguing in favor of Spiderman there.. There's no dictation ANYWHERE that he had to, and there's PLENTY of counter evidence to support the idea that he didn't.

If by evidence you mean you an capt then sure

Originally posted by jinzin
Yes I did, but I don't think you understood what I was getting at... well how could you? You keep avoiding my question...

I've been pretty straightforward imo. Lets try again

Originally posted by jinzin
Let me try it again.. Yes the punches were fast... Does that prove they were faster than Wolverine? NO... There.. better?

Much. Why was this so hard to get to? Your still worng but at least I get your point

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm TRYING to understand your babel, but what you're laying down has more contradictions than Rucca.. it's hard.

I know. My level of consistency must be soo tough to grasp. 🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
It IS *right* as a matter of fact. Wolverine's never tried to kill spiderman in any of their 616 encounters.

In the grave fight at the start he was pissed and going all out. Both of them were

Originally posted by jinzin
So now Wolverine has a new power too! 😱 He can see into the future!!!! YAY!

Maybe it'll help him with his dodging.

Originally posted by jinzin
I mean, you know, considering that he didn't find out about the whole admantium beta thing until WELL into his own series. Long before this one shot ever occured...
And uhhh NO he couldn't have accomplished dick squat there... Look, Sabretooth's tried.. the EXACT SAME THING... Wovlerine still fought back... Kinda throws that whole bit of wishful thinking out the damned window don't it?

Maybe he could have, maybe he couldn't. Its not the point really.

Originally posted by jinzin
You SHOULD understand... It's akin to when YOU run through a comic and skip the facts you don't like. 😉

Hmm, now when have I ever done that?

Originally posted by jinzin
We HAVE given you plenty of feats to match the ones posted in spiderman's favor.. but I guess if you can't be bothered to read them.. well.

on another note, why do we have to show wolverine dodging to prove he's as fast as spiderman? That doesn't even make sense...

Like we've said before, there are lots of comparable feats out there. I have Nightwing issues where he's evading lasers. We can't all just say then that Nightwing is as fast as Wolverine or Spider-Man cause they have the same feats.

Originally posted by jinzin
We HAVE given you plenty of feats to match the ones posted in spiderman's favor.. but I guess if you can't be bothered to read them.. well.

on another note, why do we have to show wolverine dodging to prove he's as fast as spiderman? That doesn't even make sense...

I suppose if I made a thread about who has the bigger dick between
Wolverine and Galactus, the same 2 people would debate that like they
debate Wolverine is as fast as Spiderman.....

the cocksmokery never ends....

wow.

just wow.

Originally posted by Zahit
I suppose if I made a thread about who has the bigger dick between
Wolverine and Galactus, the same 2 people would debate that

Well, they would be the experts on Wolverine's size... what with the amount of time they spend stroking it, and all. 313

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Well, they [B]would be the experts on Wolverine's size... what with the amount of time they spend stroking it, and all. 313 [/B]

😆

Originally posted by jinzin
We HAVE given you plenty of feats to match the ones posted in spiderman's favor.. but I guess if you can't be bothered to read them.. well.

on another note, why do we have to show wolverine dodging to prove he's as fast as spiderman? That doesn't even make sense...

Happily closed. Way too many reports. If you guys are going to act like children, throwing swear words around and bashing, then I have no problem closing threads with "hot-button" characters in them (Wolverin/Hulk/Flash/etc.)