a little correction for the Iori-Legato story. the inspiration for Iori style of appearance is inspired from/homage to one manga artist who designed Legato and Brandon Heat. For the record Iori has the same appearane as Legato Bluesummers and Brandon Heat/Beyond the Grave who are both designed by the same guy: tall, stooping broad shoulders and the hair covering one eye, with a long bony face and high cheek bones. hence the similarity.
and for the record, i'm pretty sure Iori came before Legato since Trigun came out in 1999.
that out of the way.
Are these other KGs doing dragon punches, wearing sleeveles Gi & having "Ry" followed by a vowel in their name? & can somebody please show me 1 person or even a group saying "we created Ryu and we created Ryo"? Creating a fighting game icon like Ryu is something to be boasted I'd think.
both are pretty common names and having them with similar names may or may not be intentional. its on wikipedia like Oly told you long time back.
Getting kinda childish here mane. No need for the name calling. Ryu's not even in my top ten, I've even said how I'd rather be Ken or even Ryo or Terry. I don't have Ryu winning against Jon. Whenever I see Ryu being simply outclassed(you know when he's fighting against someone tough who hasn't made a career out of jobbing bosses(Terry) or isn't a jobber or nobody themself(FF cast Gotdammit SNK!!) I have him lose.
AGAIN...not name calling. read what i said: i was taking a few pro-Ryu people's names of the top of my head to prove Remulus wrong. what are you defficient?
now don't tell me that you didn't join in the fray and say ryu would pwn Kazuya/Terry now did you? what was your opinion about Ryo/ryu? what about Jin/ryu and even kyo/Ryu? so get the picture....pro-ryu. not fanboy. i never said fanboy. putting words in my mouth.....again!
as for the jobber argument well, its been 6 months and we're back to square one with every other thread aren't we. tedious but what the hell.
also you have no choice but to say Ryu'd lose cuz you know...when was the last time he won against any tough opponent?
It honestly looks more like "If you don't have Ryu losing to everybody, you're a fanboy. But it's cool if you think Terry can beat Bison or if you think he can somehow stalemate O.Iori even though it took A GANG of KOFers to bring him down. I won't call you a fanboy for that stuff"
no its more like this:
if anyone other than Ryu beats someone tough, its jobbing. if ryu beats someone tough, he did it through sheer training and willpower and skill.
Terry beat Geese in FF1 but that was jobbing. apparently no one can beat someone a non-godtier boss because that's jobbing. apparently heroes, aside from ryu, should always lose to the boss.
however Sagat (as most people think as was evident in the Sagat/Ryu thread sometime back) losing to Ryu would not be jobbing but a battle of skill where Ryu, of course, would prevail.
and again, you're annoying habit of putting words in my mouth continues:
i didn't say SFA3 Bison or even alpha Bison. i said STREET FIGHTER TWO bison would lose to Terry. SF2 Bison is not godtier but hightier and terry has outlasted other hightiers before so him outlasting a hightier isn't out of question. not to mention i said that ages ago. what has SF2 Bison done that makes you people think he's unbeatable. he probably lost to Guile/Chunli and most people here agree that Guile would lose to Terry any day. so do the math.
Ken has fought some of the best and pulled off Ws. Terry jobs bosses & in his FF days was surrounded by losers there to make him look good. Good for nothing? Stop the hate. & Ken gets more trim than Terry so there. I can be immature too mane
please name any tough opponent Ken has faced besides Ryu and Bison (for whom he was getting help). come on tell me. Sakura is not in his league, neither is Karin Kanzuki, neither is Sean.
Compare that to Geese, Krauser, Ryo, Kyo, Iori, K', Ash, Grant, Rock....and i could just go on and on and on. And you know...Terry didn't lose to them either. IMO all of these people here can whip Ken's butt to hell except Rock of course. but keeping my opinion aside, tell me has Ken faced such competition? no way! has he spent 25 years fighting? no.And someone here was talking of facing lame competition to look good. at least Terry wasn't spoon fed little school girls to fight so he could look good. at least terry didn't have rookies fighting him so he could look good.
oh but that's right...they were jobbing terry. i mean its terry's fault that none of these people could curbstomp him like Brainchild wants. its his fault that he manages to hold his own...because for a guy, who spent more time on the streets fighting and honing his skills longer than almost ALL fighters in fighting games (a whopping 30+ years on the streets) it is totally unacceptable for him to be an exceptionally good fighter and be skilled enough to hold his own against fighter.
however, if you think about it, it makes perfect sense when someone (akuma) trains to inhuman levels and becomes godtier. but for a guy who has been fighting for 30+ years, its unfathomable that he is really, really good.
(and i'll save you the trouble: don't even start to assume that I'm saying Terry is gotier)
not to mention that Ryu, more skilled than Ken, losing to Ken isn't jobbing. goutetsu a skilled veteran losing to Gouki isn't jobbing either. but Geese losing to Terry is jobbing because, you know, Geese is way cooler.