What does any of those other fighters have going for them is the real question. Since when was the last time those characters can lift several tons, or dodge bullets? Ryu beat Ken several times before SF started and in the end Ryu was the final victor. None of the characters opposing Ryu could beat Sagat, Bison, Gouki, Oro(Ryu never lost to Hugo, you are aware of that, right?), and he lost to Ken long ago. So why even bring that up?
so wait...any boss losing to the hero is jobbing? so that means that ALL games have a job-whore hero? come on...stop the fanboyism.
also you wanna know what they have going: okay lets list them:
-Terry Bogard. capable of dodging machine gun bullets, capable of taking down a whole unit of a heavily armed army unit by himself and actually having fun, outlasted a godtier, beat advanced human with so much power that he was disintingrating because of it in a one-on-one fight, unmatched heart and stamina (capable of getting right up after a kaiser wave for instance), 30+ years of fighting expereince (vs. 10 years of fighting experiene for ryu)...want more?
-Kazuya: survived falling off a really, really high cliff as a child (pact with devil made AFTER climbing the ravine by the way), capable of breaking armor plated robots in half with ONE PUNCH that wasn't even his strongest at any rate, picked up heavy ass robot, spun around, smacked it into 6 other heavy ass robot, tossed it 30 feet away into HUGE metal statue of Buddha and shattering both heavy ass, armor plated robot and the statue....again not even exposing his true strength here. so here's a thought: can a guy who picks up 8foot armor plated robots that could very well weigh a ton and toss it atleast 30feet away pick up a boulder? hmm.....
-Jin kazama: dude, the guy is stronger than Kazuya and Hachi. Nuff said.
-Kyo: when was the last time Ryu knocked out Sagat? never....unless you're counting cheapie shoryuken in SF1. yeah, well try KO'ing a god with one punch. Ryu can't even KO a hightier so let alone KO'ing not godtier but a god. oh wait...but that was jobbing, right? regardless, facts remain facts. Kyo KO'd a god. Ryu never could. no chance.
-Iori: is stronger, faster and more dangerous than Kyo. Period.
still need a dictionary?
They are high tiers in there own games but, even though you may deny this until the day you die but SF high tiers are higher, plus SF does not job. So it's either the SF high tiers are higher or the other hight tiers are weak? Take your pick.
they are higher because a SF fanboy states they are higher. sure. get some proof.
No one is a fanboy but saying Kyo, Jin, and Ryo can beat Bison, Gouki, Gill, or Oro would be a foolish claim, so why even bring that into an debate, you know better.
Never said any of them would beat Gill or Gouki or Oro. Bison, if its SF2, they at any rate i see Kyo pwning him. SFA3 Bison, no, unless he has help.
[quote[FACT-SF high tiers are extremly powerful and do not job. The rest of the cast is powerful. Capcom makes training to beat your opponenet logicaly and sencibly a series of games(Example Ryu training since SFA2 so that he may defeat Gouki some day)Not just having the main character come out of no where and beat the crap out of this so called "hight tier boss". You fail to realize what Remulous has probally been trying to say in all these threads I've browsed, not all fighting game tiers are the same, what may seem high in one game series may not be high in another. KOF's and Tekken's strongest caharacters can not take SF's (exept Orochi, but if his plot device was taken away, he could not survive either.)[/quote]
FACT: you have no way of prooving that not jobbing means they are higher or better than any other game's bosses. nor is this proof that SF cast is superior....heck it could very well mean they suck.
FACT: don't assume things you have no hope of knowing.
FACT: geese and bison have been placed on the same level by both game produceers....so for f--k sake the safest bet we have is that SFtiers=SNKtiers.....and of course from taht analogy, SNK characters>>SF characters.
FACT-SNK fighters don't face crappy competition, you see, your getting all bent out of shape on your own words, because from what I've read no one said SNK fighters are crappy.
FACT: no getting bent out of shape.
FACT2: you have hardly seen most forums here during Brainchild's SNK rave prime.
FACT-SF are thee epitome of hard core training and the SF bosses are stronger then Tekken an SNK bosses, that's Ryu's problem.
really....? don't see it that way. unless you mean 30+ years of street fighting doesn't mean squat infront of a 10 year old fighting career.
FACT-We all know that video games are not real and I see you bring that up in nearly every thread. You steadily prove that SNK and Tekken bosses are not as strong as you make them seem, Seeing as how they are beaten by characters who show no series displays of power other then jobbing the bosses. None of them has done anything that puts them above SF bosses. I don't care how a video game minipulates it's own reality just don't think that the game's form reality applies to all games, because it doesn't. Just because Terry beat Geese does not mean he will beat every SF boss.
when was the last time Bison could destroy the world...with his own power at any rate? Orochi can. heck the Jin twins have shown more power than Bison.
akuma can break ayres rock in half. *claps* good for him. Geonitz f--ked up a whole city with a glimpse of his power.
Until SNK and Tekken bosses can rival that of SF bosses, it's more than speculation. Look at us, attempting to compare an entire game company of characters to one single fighting game series (SNK and Tekken VS SF)
...your point?
Actaully I've been here for several weeks, I just didn't post here often because of the massive hate and hostility shown to posters over video games and there beliefs.
okay so you're not a n00b (which i already apologized for by the way) but you're still new here. most posts i am refering to are as old as November last year.
you know you and i will be seeing a lot of eachother. i have no beef against you or something nor do i think you're my mortal enemy or something. Lets make it a good debate. good luck🙂
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Ken beated Uncanon Gill AND RYU in the Japanese comics!!!!!!
yeah...good for him. but sad part is i could very well come here and tell you that i had a dream where i beat the crap out of Ryu.......and THIS would have more credibility than the comics.
so again.........URUSAI KONO GAKI!!!
~Sado