Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'd like to see a human military press 800lbs. The handbook figures are for military presses, not bench pressing and that's a huge difference.
were does it state the hand books are for military presses?
Logan feats have him quite easily exceeding 800 pounds. Hell even with one arm he thrown things that weight more.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
The world record is like 500lbs for military presses.
Even if the hand books mean military presses were I would still like to see evidence of this ever being stated, that would make wolverine according to you not even twice as strong as the strongest human. Captain America is supose to be 3 times stronger at the very least.
Not to mention the fact Logan feats exceed this by a large margin, and the fact he never in an on pannel comic story been implied or stated to be peak-human, he has however been stated as enhanced human, implied super human, special strength ect. pritty much every word for superhuman.
If I had a working scanner I'd scan it. But word for word here's the quote:
"The maximum ability to, from a standing position, lift (military press) weight over one's head (under optimal conditions)"
A person who can do a proper military press of 800lbs. would be capable of doing some impressive sh!t.
Originally posted by BattlehammerBenching uses the pecs as primary muscles, triceps and front delts as auxiliary muscles. Military presses use the delts as primary muscles, pecs and triceps as auxiliary muscles.
prove it
The pecs are larger than the delts. Due to the larger overall size of the pecs and the smoother, and more natural motion, bench pressing is considered easier. That's why a person can bench more than they can shoulder/military press.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
prove it
"ability to lift weight above one's head with arms fully extended"
..."Lift your arms, with the weight bar, above your head. Press your arms upwards so that they are fully extended."
source: http://www.wisegeek.com/in-weight-lifting-what-is-the-military-press.htm
Originally posted by Battlehammer
That would make wolverine according to you not even twice as strong as the strongest human.Captain America is supose to be 3 times stronger at the very least.
Not to mention the fact Logan feats exceed this by a large margin, and the fact he never in an on pannel comic story been implied or stated to be peak-human, he has however been stated as enhanced human, implied super human, special strength ect. pritty much every word for superhuman.
Why does wolverine HAVE to be at least twice as strong as world’s strongest human?
Who said cap is three times stronger than world’s strongest human? He’s ought to be slightly above the finest human athlete, for every attribute the pinnacle of human ability i.e. Usain Bolt (current fastest man) can run at ~28/9mph cap’s bio says he can run at 30mph for extended periods
Cap's been stated as strong as 10 men on panel assuming a normal person can press 80lbs ~ 40kg I’d say he has been fairly classed and done justice , also as for the bench he did 1100lbs assuming normal human can do 110lbs ~50kg the on panel statement does not seem hyperbole )
agreed Logan is stronger than cap as I’d assume dead pool is, with the healing factor reducing toxins in muscles, enabling them to lift more, and exert more than humanly possible but not by that much without further enhancements, id say Logan can press about 900lbs-1000lbs
also I think the metal skeleton doesn’t directly increase strength aside from gradual strength increase through moving with heavy weight , i think it rather helps Logan cope with bracing heavy weights , so he wont be able to lift a heavier weight than he can without metal skeleton but deadlight a much heavier raw weight... obviously deadpool and sabretooth don’t have this to help them with strength feats
And sabretooth (who I think posses superhuman strength to a descent extent due to more enhancement than the others)
Originally posted by ankur29
Why does wolverine HAVE to be at least twice as strong as world’s strongest human?Who said cap is three times stronger than world’s strongest human? He’s ought to be slightly above the finest human athlete, for every attribute the pinnacle of human ability i.e. Usain Bolt (current fastest man) can run at ~28/9mph cap’s bio says he can run at 30mph for extended periods
Cap's been stated as strong as 10 men on panel assuming a normal person can press 80lbs ~ 40kg I’d say he has been fairly classed and done justice , also as for the bench he did 1100lbs assuming normal human can do 110lbs ~50kg the on panel statement does not seem hyperbole )
agreed Logan is stronger than cap as I’d assume dead pool is, with the healing factor reducing toxins in muscles, enabling them to lift more, and exert more than humanly possible but not by that much without further enhancements, id say Logan can press about 900lbs-1000lbs
also I think the metal skeleton doesn’t directly increase strength aside from gradual strength increase through moving with heavy weight , i think it rather helps Logan cope with bracing heavy weights , so he wont be able to lift a heavier weight than he can without metal skeleton but deadlight a much heavier raw weight... obviously deadpool and sabretooth don’t have this to help them with strength feats
And sabretooth (who I think posses superhuman strength to a descent extent due to more enhancement than the others)
I would not say deadpool is stronger than Cap...i would even say he is average human str....unless there are some feats i have not seen...its one thing to assume he trains and exeeds the norm...but where are the feats?
Originally posted by Badabing
Benching uses the pecs as primary muscles, triceps and front delts as auxiliary muscles. Military presses use the delts as primary muscles, pecs and triceps as auxiliary muscles.The pecs are larger than the delts. Due to the larger overall size of the pecs and the smoother, and more natural motion, bench pressing is considered easier. That's why a person can bench more than they can shoulder/military press.
What do you know about lifting weights?
Skinny uhuh
Originally posted by starlock
I would not say deadpool is stronger than Cap...i would even say he is average human str....unless there are some feats i have not seen...its one thing to assume he trains and exeeds the norm...but where are the feats?
wouldnt his healing factor grant him greater strength?
i.e. muscle are not put under stress as easily , therefore a load which would exhaust a norma human woudln't have the same fatigue effect on someone with this power, allowing them to liift abnormally more , for longer perooids of time?
Originally posted by ankur29
Why does wolverine HAVE to be at least twice as strong as world’s strongest human?Who said cap is three times stronger than world’s strongest human? He’s ought to be slightly above the finest human athlete, for every attribute the pinnacle of human ability i.e. Usain Bolt (current fastest man) can run at ~28/9mph cap’s bio says he can run at 30mph for extended periods
Cap's been stated as strong as 10 men on panel assuming a normal person can press 80lbs ~ 40kg I’d say he has been fairly classed and done justice , also as for the bench he did 1100lbs assuming normal human can do 110lbs ~50kg the on panel statement does not seem hyperbole )
agreed Logan is stronger than cap as I’d assume dead pool is, with the healing factor reducing toxins in muscles, enabling them to lift more, and exert more than humanly possible but not by that much without further enhancements, id say Logan can press about 900lbs-1000lbs
also I think the metal skeleton doesn’t directly increase strength aside from gradual strength increase through moving with heavy weight , i think it rather helps Logan cope with bracing heavy weights , so he wont be able to lift a heavier weight than he can without metal skeleton but deadlight a much heavier raw weight... obviously deadpool and sabretooth don’t have this to help them with strength feats
And sabretooth (who I think posses superhuman strength to a descent extent due to more enhancement than the others)
Logan feats put him at 2 tons range.
He been stated/implied to be both superhuman in strength or enhanced human.
He recieved enhancements to his body from the weapon x program to increase his strength as well.
normal man only can bench 80? wtf.
also capt was stated to be 3 times a strong as cable who peak of his physical ability and at least as strong as the strongest human in are world.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan feats put him at 2 tons range.He been stated/implied to be both superhuman in strength or enhanced human.
He recieved enhancements to his body from the weapon x program to increase his strength as well.
normal man only can bench 80? wtf.
also capt was stated to be 3 times a strong as cable who peak of his physical ability and at least as strong as the strongest human in are world.
2 tons press lift seems liek alot, that woudl make ghim capable of lifting a large sedan above his head , and make him able to bench press more tahn 2 tons? are you sure its not too much , i a, willing to accept logan can press like half a ton above his head , if you can show me a feat where he fully press lifts a weight of above thsi i will belive that he is as strong as you say , but his feats involve tossing weights which may not be as hard as press lifting .
i said normal human can bench ~ 110lbs, and can press lift ~ 80lbs i purely said that as it is a tenth of caps lifting capability , and cap has been stated as strong as 10 men
i see where you got cap is 3 tiems as strong as cable but that doesnt mean hes 3x stronger than the worlds strongest man , but in marvel there are dozens of people (human who are proabbaly stronger than cable)
i.e kingpin, eddie brock who was staed as able to lift 700lbs (press lift, that by our world standard woudl be superhuman as highest military press lift is abouit 500lbs)
