Mad Jim Jaspers+Franklin Richards +Mister M vs Eternity

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Multi - Eternity is the collection of all Eternities, I'm just talking about 616 Eternity. The Fury knew of that place since that is where he came from, but it was destroyed by Mandragon (including its own Eternity)

616 eternity is an aspect of multi-eternity, and is VERY much aware of the other universes, including ones that are destroyed.

Ok, let's take a different track. Eternity time travels (or sends a minion to time travel) back before Jaspers' powers develop, and kill him in his crib, kill his parents, or hell, just nuke the earth before life develops there.

Jaspers has no way to stop it, and YES, eternity can do this.

Except Jaspers controlled all of time and space, he could protect his own past.

Same reason why Eternity didn't go back in time and stop Thanos from collecting all of the Infinity Gems.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Except Jaspers controlled all of time and space, he could protect his own past.

Same reason why Eternity didn't go back in time and stop Thanos from collecting all of the Infinity Gems.

If jaspers controlled all of time and space, why didn't he eliminate the fury using the same method? I've never seen anything suggesting Jaspers can time travel. Reality warping =/= time travel.

as for Thanos getting the infinity gems, thats a completely different story altogether. There's no reason those gems should float around as freely as they do, but there's no cure for bad writing, I guess.

Because the Fury was unkillable. It was made by the Jaspers from Earth 238, which was destroyed. IT SURVIVED THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE BEING NULLIFIED. The Fury was made to learn from it's fights and adapt. It adapted to the reality warping, and it was made by another MJJ, albeit a weaker one.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because the Fury was unkillable. It was made by the Jaspers from Earth 238, which was destroyed. IT SURVIVED THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE BEING NULLIFIED. The Fury was made to learn from it's fights and adapt. It adapted to the reality warping, and it was made by another MJJ, albeit a weaker one.

If the Fury is unkillable, then why is it dead?

It survived the universe being nullified by Roma's devices, which are far from perfect. Those beings aren't abstract-level. powerful, but they're not eternity.

Do you really think the Fury would survive more than a couple of seconds against cosmic threats like abraxas? Exitar? The in-betweener? Death itself? The Infinity Gauntlet? Because that's the level eternity operates on, and you're kidding youself if you do.

the way the fury adapts.....it might. scared See, that's the scary thing about the Fury. If you give it enough time to recover and adapt, it can beat almost anything. Abraxas, IG, Death, they would win regardless. IB, Exitar? Harder to call if the fury is allowed to adapt to them first.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
the way the fury adapts.....it might. scared See, that's the scary thing about the Fury. If you give it enough time to recover and adapt, it can beat almost anything. Abraxas, IG, Death, they would win regardless. IB, Exitar? Harder to call if the fury is allowed to adapt to them first.

The inbetweener is TRULY immortal and indestructible. Galactus couldn't kill it- he had to call chaos and order to contain him.

Exitar wipes out planets with a thought singlehandedly, and celestial tech is widely understood to be the most advanced in ANY marvel universe. The combined might of all earth's skyfathers couldn't stop the celestial host, and you're implying that the Fury can somehow "adapt" to them? GTFO of here with that.

The fury is less than a joke to those and doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
The inbetweener is TRULY immortal and indestructible. Galactus couldn't kill it- he had to call chaos and order to contain him.

Exitar wipes out planets with a thought singlehandedly, and celestial tech is widely understood to be the most advanced in ANY marvel universe. The combined might of all earth's skyfathers couldn't stop the celestial host, and you're implying that the Fury can somehow "adapt" to them? GTFO of here with that.

The fury is less than a joke to those and doesn't stand a chance.

U make a good point

I'm gonna get Galan. If I'm talking out my ass, I'd like to know sooner rather than later.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
If the Fury is unkillable, then why is it dead?

Because it battled a being across Realities that can Warp Universes on a whim.

After defeating Jaspers, the Fury was weakened greatly, then Captain Britain and Capatin UK finished him off.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
It survived the universe being nullified by Roma's devices, which are far from perfect.

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Where are you getting this from?

Roma's Celestial Nullifier can erase any Universe in the Omniverse.

I have ALL of Roma's appearances, please tell in what isuue did her Nullifier fail.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Those beings aren't abstract-level. powerful, but they're not eternity.

FAR beyond Eternity is more like it.

Are you kidding me?

Merlyn and Roma play Chess games using the Multiverse as their Chess Board.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Do you really think the Fury would survive more than a couple of seconds against cosmic threats like abraxas? Exitar? The in-betweener? Death itself? The Infinity Gauntlet? Because that's the level eternity operates on, and you're kidding youself if you do.

In-betweener, Exitar and Death are a joke to Fury.

Abraxas & the IG are a different story.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
If jaspers controlled all of time and space, why didn't he eliminate the fury using the same method? I've never seen anything suggesting Jaspers can time travel. Reality warping =/= time travel.

Time is meaningless to one who controls Reality absolutely.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm gonna get Galan. If I'm talking out my ass, I'd like to know sooner rather than later.

Why bother? This battle is common sense. The Fury managed to kill Jaspers. With effort, mind you, but he still did it.

Eternity is older, more powerful, FAR more intelligent and has unlimited resources at his disposal, including some monstrously powerful individuals (Exitar, for instance) yet somehow this is a loss for eternity? It makes no sense.

Get Galan if you want, though I won't be up all night.

Edit: Mr. Master, I WAS going to respond to you until I saw the assertion that somehow death itself and the in betweener were a "joke" to the fury. I don't feel like wasting my time explaining how stupid that phrase is.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Why bother? This battle is common sense. The Fury managed to kill Jaspers. With effort, mind you, but he still did it.

Eternity is older, more powerful, FAR more intelligent and has unlimited resources at his disposal, including some monstrously powerful individuals (Exitar, for instance) yet somehow this is a loss for eternity? It makes no sense.

Get Galan if you want, though I won't be up all night.

Jaspers became the 616 Universe.

nuff said.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Jaspers became the 616 Universe.

nuff said.

Good morning. Can Multi Eternity stop MJJ?

Originally posted by Space M ummy
apparently jaspers WASNT eternity, if he still had a physical body to teleport and lobotomize. (which eternity does not.)

You may not like it, but Jaspers WAS the 616 Universe.

But being the psycho he was, he decided to battle the Fury on a Physical Plane,

(plot device) there was no other way to defeat him.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Don't you think it's odd during that story that NO cosmics showed up to give a sh*t? No In betweener, no chaos, no order, no death, no celestials...there's a list of beings as long as my arm who are supposed to safeguard the universe, and they all happened to be on vacation that day.

All those cats are below Eternity, and Jaspers was FAR beyond Eternity.

They wouldn't have been able to do jack anyways, that's why they were left out.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
the fury is hardly the only individual in the entire marvel universe that can teleport between dimensions. Don't get carried away now.

The Fury is one of the very FEW individuals that can survive a Universe being Erased.

Jaspers 616 is also immune to nullification.

Originally posted by guy222
Good morning.

Morning?

It's 3 am in New York, and I can't sleep.

Originally posted by guy222
Can Multi Eternity stop MJJ?

Merlyn was more powerful than Multi-Eternity and even he couldn't stop Jaspers.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Morning?

It's 3 am in New York, and I can't sleep.

Merlyn was more powerful than Multi-Eternity and even he couldn't stop Jaspers.

I told ya Los Angeles rivals NY 🙂 Early for me. Good point. Did u really like Marvel: The End?

Originally posted by guy222
Did u really like Marvel: The End?

The dialogue between characters was fascinating.

The plot was so so.

What I don't like about Starlin is that he never uses the term "Multiverse" in his stories, which leaves alot of confusion for those that are not too Comic savvy.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Edit: Mr. Master, I WAS going to respond to you until I saw the assertion that somehow death itself and the in betweener were a "joke" to the fury. I don't feel like wasting my time explaining how stupid that phrase is.

Your opinion friend,

read the Comic and you'll know who the Fury was.

Then you'll realize how stupid it is for you to think what I'm saying is stupid.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The dialogue between characters was fascinating.

The plot was so so.

What I don't like about Starlin is that he never uses the term "Multiverse" in his stories, which leaves alot of confusion for those that are not too Comic savvy.

I like some of his work. I agree about the plot