Mad Jim Jaspers+Franklin Richards +Mister M vs Eternity

Started by Mr Master4 pages
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Edit: Mr. Master, I WAS going to respond to you until I saw the assertion that somehow death itself and the in betweener were a "joke" to the fury. I don't feel like wasting my time explaining how stupid that phrase is.

Nullifier erases Death from existence:

Thanos erases Death

When the 238 Universe was erased/Nullified from existence,

the FURY (who was in that Universe) wasn't even phased

Fury bio, survives Nullification and Jaspers' Warp

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006)

Nullifier = Death rubbed out from existence.

Nullifier = Fury doesn't even receive a scratch.

Fury > Death

Well the UN is not the same as Mandragon's nullifier

Originally posted by Space M ummy
apparently jaspers WASNT eternity,

Jaspers 616 becomes Eternity

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well the UN is not the same as Mandragon's nullifier

Exactly,

the Celestial Nullifier has a greater range.

Any Universe in the Omniverse is up for grabs.

The UN's greatest capacity has been shown to be a Multiverse so far.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Jaspers 616 becomes Eternity

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

[B]"I made the Stars"
[/B]

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I'm lost...😕
But exactly where does it show that he became eternity?
Those three scans don't show any conclusive evidence that he actually became eternity.

Originally posted by Skeets
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I'm lost...😕
But exactly where does it show that he became eternity?
Those three scans don't show any conclusive evidence that he actually became eternity.

Eternity as in the Universe.

Not Eternity the figure.

Originally posted by Skeets
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I'm lost...😕
But exactly where does it show that he became eternity?
Those three scans don't show any conclusive evidence that he actually became eternity.

Hint: it doesn't. the entire argument is based on some rather questionable leaps of logic. Showing jaspers floating around the universe does not mean he suddenly IS eternity. (hint: eternity "the figure" is just the concious manifestation of eternity "as in the universe." there is no difference.)

the "celestial nullifier" is nowhere CLOSE to the ultimate nullifier. Master's info is incorrect. the UN didn't just destroy "A" multiverse (which is somehow smaller than a universe now?) it destroyed and recreated EVERY universe within marvel continuity simultaneously.
Clearly, they're in two different classes. And THAT UN is just a part of Galactus, who is below...you guessed it...Eternity.

Master also seems to need an education on the abstract heirarchy. Death is eternity's equal. not below him.

I'm not even going to touch the "merlyn is more powerful than multi-eternity" claim.

Since Galan didn't show up (I was hoping he would) I'm off to bed. it's 4am in philly.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Hint: it doesn't. the entire argument is based on some rather questionable leaps of logic. Showing jaspers floating around the universe does not mean he suddenly IS eternity.

Jim Japsers Remade t& became the 616 Universe, end of story.

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

Here's the Proof

In Captain Britain's series that came AFTER Jaspers was killed by the Fury,

it's clarified for those that tried to demean Jaspers' Feat.

"Although Captain UK and I defeated the Fury & contained the Jaspers' Warp,

the Continuum was sufficiently damaged"

"Roma informed Linda her anomalous presence on 616,

was preventing the Damaged Reality (Universe) from fully Healing"

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Captain UK Bio)

On Panel verification

"Your presence is an anomaly,

that has prevented this Continuum (616 Universe) from Healing"

How the heck is Warping one country fkn up a Universe? dontgetit

I did find more evidence to further prove, Jaspers was the 616 Universe.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/madjimj2.htm

GO down to 'The Mighty World of Marvel #9'

(on the right hand side of the poker dot Jaspers with a Cane)

"Captain Britain entered Jaspers' Office to find Jaspers,

a Giant at ONE with the Universe"

This, coupled with the rest of my evidence,

should make you a "Jaspers was the 616 Universe" ... supporter 😄

Remember, this site is officially approved by Marvel.


On the first page of every OHOTMU 2006

Originally posted by Mr Master
Eternity as in the Universe.

Not Eternity the figure.


Which is what I meant.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Hint: it doesn't. the entire argument is based on some rather questionable leaps of logic. Showing jaspers floating around the universe does not mean he suddenly IS eternity. (hint: eternity "the figure" is just the concious manifestation of eternity "as in the universe." there is no difference.)

the "celestial nullifier" is nowhere CLOSE to the ultimate nullifier. Master's info is incorrect. the UN didn't just destroy "A" multiverse (which is somehow smaller than a universe now?) it destroyed and recreated EVERY universe within marvel continuity simultaneously.
Clearly, they're in two different classes. And THAT UN is just a part of Galactus, who is below...you guessed it...Eternity.

Master also seems to need an education on the abstract heirarchy. Death is eternity's equal. not below him.

I'm not even going to touch the "merlyn is more powerful than multi-eternity" claim.

Since Galan didn't show up (I was hoping he would) I'm off to bed. it's 4am in philly.


I figured..

Originally posted by Space M ummy
the "celestial nullifier" is nowhere CLOSE to the ultimate nullifier.

The Celestial Nullifier can Erase ANY Universe in the Omniverse.

"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"

"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse CEASES TO EXIST"

Is she hyperboling?

"It is within my power to have a given UNIVERSE REMOVED should it's existence THREATEN the OMNI-VERSE"

"Objection"

"a CRYSTAL KEY is turned, a Chain Reaction Commenced"

"A Stricken UNIVERSE is placed FOREVER beyond Suffering"

"A WHOLE UNIVERSE! ... He just WIPED OUT a WHOLE UNIVERSE at the flick of a switch"

"In ALL the OMNI-VERSE there is NOT ONE Universe that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"

yawn

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Celestial Nullifier can Erase ANY Universe in the Omniverse.

"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"

"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse CEASES TO EXIST"

Is she hyperboling?

"It is within my power to have a given UNIVERSE REMOVED should it's existence THREATEN the OMNI-VERSE"

"Objection"

"a CRYSTAL KEY is turned, a Chain Reaction Commenced"

"A Stricken UNIVERSE is placed FOREVER beyond Suffering"

"A WHOLE UNIVERSE! ... He just WIPED OUT a WHOLE UNIVERSE at the flick of a switch"

"In ALL the OMNI-VERSE there is NOT ONE Universe that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"

yawn

This is why I've been mostly ignoring you. You don't listen when people say things, and barely understand your own scans. let me spell it out for you again.

The celestial nullifier can eliminate any ONE universe in the Omniverse. Great.

The ultimate nullifier HAS eliminated ALL of the universes in marvel continuity. At once. Then rebuilt them as the wielder directed.

which one is stronger? think about it and get back to me tomorrow.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Master's info is incorrect. the UN didn't just destroy "A" multiverse (which is somehow smaller than a universe now?) it destroyed and recreated EVERY universe within marvel continuity simultaneously.
Clearly, they're in two different classes.

"My info is incorrect?"

😆

When did the UN destroy and recreate the Omniverse?

You must be joking.

The UN Recreated A Multiverse, nothing more.

Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...

Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself"

Finally what does this lead to?

Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was."

What was MISALIGNED that NEEDED to be REALIGNED?

The MULTI-VERSE!

Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & Remake the Multiverse

UN Destroys the Multiverse

UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant

UN is a Multiversal weapon Reed says

"Should Abraxas reach the NULLIFIER, He CAN OBLITERATE ALL the COMBINED REALITIES of the MULTI-VERSE"

"Master's info is incorrect"

whistling

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Master also seems to need an education on the abstract heirarchy. Death is eternity's equal. not below him.

You must not know who I am.

The Universe doesn't need Death to continue, Death has been Erased Twice from existence and guess what?

Nothing happened to the Universe.

Look at what happens when you erase Eternity:

The Universe gets Erased aswell.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
This is why I've been mostly ignoring you. You don't listen when people say things,

Your words are meaningless compared to my Marvel scans.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
and barely understand your own scans. let me spell it out for you again.

😂

Originally posted by Space M ummy
The ultimate nullifier HAS eliminated ALL of the universes in marvel continuity. At once. Then rebuilt them as the wielder directed. .

I already proved this to be False.

You have some serious reading to do my friend.

When you wake up, begin reading. 🙂

Originally posted by Skeets
I figured..

I guess you realized you posted to soon.

swank

But if you meant you figured he was wrong,

I agree.

Woah. And that, is why I don't dispute anything this guy says on cosmics and up. 😑 So I was right? It can beat Exitar and IB? Phew. I figured beating Jaspers would be harder than those 2.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
The celestial nullifier can eliminate any ONE universe in the Omniverse. Great.

This is also incorrect.

You must of missed this part.

Roma has in her possession Crystals that represent the Life-Force of every Universe in the Omniverse:

"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"

"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse CEASES TO EXIST"

So unlike the UN which has only been proven to have a range of ONE Multiverse,

Roma can literally catch a fit and sunder the Omniverse.

Omniverse = ALL of Marvel.

Why does thanos have that reatarded colour scheme in some of those scans,i can't be assed to look at them,but i'm guessing alternate reality?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Why does thanos have that reatarded colour scheme in some of those scans,i can't be assed to look at them,but i'm guessing alternate reality?

Correct,

that's Earth X.

It's Canon.

meh,

I'm still a bit irritated by that individual's vain attempts at besmirching my Marvel Cosmic knowledge.

Shoo, I work hard at this.

So I have to seal the coffin.