Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Do elaborate. 🙂
Easily...
Durabilty... I consider them equals except to a degree... thanos can take a beating better than darkseid. Examples of this would be his fight against power gem thor oooorrrr odin. Both were giving him hell but he wouldn't fall whereas orion and supes has given darkseid hell and has dropped him.
Then we have strength...
Thanos has held his own in a physical match against tyrant... he held his own against thor with the gem and the list goes on whereas weaker people have dropped darkseid far weaker than the above.
Power...
Darkseid has the omega blast but thanos can shield himself from this and deliver devistating attacks that would eventually drop him.
His strength would drop darkseid along with his power. The only offensive darseid have is his omega blast but thanos shields could counter that. His strength would damage thanos but its not dropping him.
Originally posted by carver9Fair enough, but Orion has only beaten Darkseid with the Source's backing. Other than that, theirs a shitload of instances where he looked like nothing compared to Ds. Superman has only two clean wins over Darkseid and were talking about the same character that one shotted Despero with heat vision......Superman is by no means a good example to prove a characters weakness. Martian Manhunter, Lobo, Takion, Orion himself, Agogg, Cyborg Superman, possibly Doomsday, Firestorm, Infinity man , and even Superman have been humbled or beaten by Ds. All these characters rival or surpass the likes of Superman Orion. Say all you want about DS, but as far as feats go the good outweigns the bad by far. You can't use low showings to form an opinion on a character. If that was the case, then I could shit on Thanos all day by lowballing.
[B]Easily...Durabilty... I consider them equals except to a degree... thanos can take a beating better than darkseid. Examples of this would be his fight against power gem thor oooorrrr odin. Both were giving him hell but he wouldn't fall whereas orion and supes has given darkseid hell and has dropped him.
Then we have strength...Tyrant has no strength feats that would lead me to believe he's anything to rave about. Thanos's fight with Thor wasn't a pure slugfest.[quote]Thanos has held his own in a physical match against tyrant... he held his own against thor with the gem and the list goes on whereas weaker people have dropped darkseid far weaker than the above.
Darkseid has the omega blast but thanos can shield himself from this and deliver devistating attacks that would eventually drop him.You do realize Ds has alot more abilities than the OE right ? High end Matter manipulation, limited reality manipulation, power draining, power granting, superspeed and flight well on par or above Superman, tp, etc. And it's not likely that Thanos would utilize shields much in fight.
His strength would drop darkseid along with his power. The only offensive darseid have is his omega blast but thanos shields could counter that. His strength would damage thanos but its not dropping him.As far as strength goes Thanos is perhaps the most overrated. Hell the only evidence to him being stronger than Superman is Thanos>Hulk>Superman. facepalm
Originally posted by paisapowerSo what ? Orion beat him straight up with his regular powers which is my point.
Just re read countdown #2 and though Darkseid was denied the amp the destiny part of the equation was repeated over and over again.Crazy thing is DarKseid had the edge and could have finished it yet deciced to monologue.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomI have already addressed this and he wasn't shot into it like a bullet.
facepalm You totally got my analogy didn't you?You cant apply a feat of another incarnation of Hulk, to Savage Hulk.......How hard is that to understand? This logic is terrible. Besides, Grey Hulk was shot into the asteroid like a bullet, the feat really isn't a legitimate strength feat.
Thanos wins, more powerful, more durable, more intelligent, unkillable, etc.
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Fair enough, but Orion has only beaten Darkseid with the Source's backing. Other than that, theirs a shitload of instances where he looked like nothing compared to Ds. Superman has only two clean wins over Darkseid and were talking about the same character that one shotted Despero with heat vision......Superman is by no means a good example to prove a characters weakness. Martian Manhunter, Lobo, Takion, Orion himself, Agogg, Cyborg Superman, possibly Doomsday, Firestorm, Infinity man , and even Superman have been humbled or beaten by Ds. All these characters rival or surpass the likes of Superman Orion. Say all you want about DS, but as far as feats go the good outweigns the bad by far. You can't use low showings to form an opinion on a character. If that was the case, then I could shit on Thanos all day by lowballing.Tyrant has no strength feats that would lead me to believe he's anything to rave about. Thanos's fight with Thor wasn't a pure slugfest.
You do realize Ds has alot more abilities than the OE right ? High end Matter manipulation, limited reality manipulation, power draining, power granting, superspeed and flight well on par or above Superman, tp, etc. And it's not likely that Thanos would utilize shields much in fight.
As far as strength goes Thanos is perhaps the most overrated. Hell the only evidence to him being stronger than Superman is Thanos>Hulk>Superman. facepalm
None of the people that you named would do anything to thanos whereas high heralds has defeated darkseid on some occasion.
As for your comment about tyrant... he 2 shot punched gladiator... a being that has strength feat surpassing supes liiiike soling a planet by moving it under his own strength and destroying a planet with his fist... ripping a star in half, about to punch cannonball from the earth to the core of the sun... hit in the face with a solar system destroying blast that was so powerful that it created a star and he didn't even feel it....one handing the baxter building. I can go on for days to prove that glads is either supes equal or his superior and again, tyrant 2 shotted him and he defeated bill along with surfer. So thanos holding his own against tyrant was a beautiful showing that imo puts him above darkseid.
I agree darkseid has more abilities but none of which would make a difference in this fight. Thanos is above him if we go by showings. Example... doomsday wouldn't did close to what he did to darkseid... they would still be fighting right now because doomsday doesn't have the strength to drop thanos.
Thanos and hulk is stronger than supes going by feats.
Originally posted by Desaad
How is it not viable or 'questionable'? The facts are clear -- the fact that we weren't given quantifiable numbers for the amount of force being exerted on the planet doesn't change the validity of the feat, or our ability to estimate -- it was enough to quickly fling the entire planet into the sun. That is huge, and nitpicking aside, insane.
You're not JUST estimating, you're Guesstimating. W/c is prone to exaggeration or bias as it is based on mostly one's opinion. The fact that it is mostly guessing based on perceived facts, makes it a very nonviable measurable/quantifiable as a basis of comparison with other feats.
Not saying the feat is or is not an "insane" one (another opinion-based level of measurement as well). It's just that ppl like stating that it is conclusive/viable proof of Superman moving a planet solo or w/ minimal help. Or a feat that would indicate that Superman moved X amount of weight. W/c it is not (as it is not truly quantifiable).