Originally posted by quanchi112Yes.Drax was meant to kill thanos.Thats why he was created.
Drax was never meant to kill Thanos he was created to Orion was destined to which Darkseid already let him in a new gods comic prior to to countdown.Destiny isn't the same thing as being created to do something. Look up the defs of these words.
Ok then by your words its an even better feat for Orion then it is for Drax.
Originally posted by quanchi112Your calling me out for not knowing much about Drax, yet your completely ignorant to Grey Hulk?
[B]Show me proof he's depicted strength wise at Thing's equal. I mean you still don't get it that you have to offer evidence not just state things which other posters called you out on.
Character matchups and their powers. How they match up strength wise with their peers along with their powers.And how that character is a feat....feats aren't limited to lifting weight, how fast you can fly, etc you know? Superman's strength feats are perfectly valid because he's commonly acknowledged as one of the strongest heros in the DCU. You do realize that you basically debunked the Grey Hulk feat on your own right? The asteroid feat is only remarkable feat in his possession. Beyond that, Grey Hulk is always depicted as Thing level. This argument is pointless, the feat isn't an accurate display of his actual power.
I think Hulk is stronger than Superman.I didn't ask if the Hulk is stronger. Grey Hulk is a different incarnation of Hulk. Is Grey Hulk stronger than Superman or not? Yes or no
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomYes, because you just stated Drax was never rezzed for the purpose of killing Thanos when that was his first appearance. You know nothing of Drax and then claimed Hulk is Thing's peer and didn't prove anything. You haven't changed a bit.
Your calling me out for not knowing much about Drax, yet your completely ignorant to Grey Hulk?
🙄 He's a match for Thing and any thing beyond that is out of his class range.And how that character is a feat....feats aren't limited to lifting weight, how fast you can fly, etc you know? Superman's strength feats are perfectly valid because he's commonly acknowledged as one of the strongest heros in the DCU. You do realize that you basically debunked the Grey Hulk feat on your own right? The asteroid feat is only remarkable feat in his possession. Beyond that, Grey Hulk is always depicted as Thing level. This argument is pointless, the feat isn't an accurate display of his actual power.
I didn't ask if the Hulk is stronger. Grey Hulk is a different incarnation of Hulk. Is Grey Hulk stronger than Superman or not? Yes or no
I never stated I believe the Hulk is stronger based off his feats. You asked for one I obliged. I think his powers make it very clear who is stronger. You need to prove in another thread too he's on Thing's level at this point you just say things.
I don't believe grey hulk is stronger than Superman but enough about these two. Bump the appropriate thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112Why are you making it sound like I said savage/standard Hulk is Thing level? I made it as specific as I possibly could to let you know I was referring to Grey Hulk. Asking me to prove Grey Hulk is Thing level, is like asking me to prove Batman is street level......it's pretty much basic knowledge. Like said earlier on, Grey Hulk is amongst the weakest Hulk incarnations. And fyi, I believe he's been beaten by Thing on one occasion and barely beat him on another.
I never stated I believe the Hulk is stronger based off his feats. You asked for one I obliged. I think his powers make it very clear who is stronger. You need to prove in another thread too he's on Thing's level at this point you just say things.
I don't believe grey hulk is stronger than Superman but enough about these two. Bump the appropriate thread. [/B]Well can we come to an agreement that the asteroid feat is invalid bullshit, that it can't be applied to savage Hulk And can you stop using faulty abc logic? 🙂
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomBatman is street level whereas any Hulk is insanely strong. Saying a strength feat doesn't count fo any Hulk needs to be proven. Then post the scans.
Why are you making it sound like I said savage/standard Hulk is Thing level? I made it as specific as I possibly could to let you know I was referring to Grey Hulk. Asking me to prove Grey Hulk is Thing level, is like asking me to prove Batman is street level......it's pretty much basic knowledge. Like said earlier on, Grey Hulk is amongst the weakest Hulk incarnations. And fyi, I believe he's been beaten by Thing on one occasion and barely beat him on another.Well can we come to an agreement that the asteroid feat is invalid bullshit, that it can't be applied to savage Hulk And can you stop using faulty abc logic? 🙂
Savage Hulk is more than capable of it since a weaker version already showed us this. Hulk gets angrier based on his emotions whereas Superman doesn't. Bump the appropriate thread next time this is for Thanos vs. darkseid.
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Why are you making it sound like I said savage/standard Hulk is Thing level? I made it as specific as I possibly could to let you know I was referring to Grey Hulk. Asking me to prove Grey Hulk is Thing level, is like asking me to prove Batman is street level......it's pretty much basic knowledge. Like said earlier on, Grey Hulk is amongst the weakest Hulk incarnations. And fyi, I believe he's been beaten by Thing on one occasion and barely beat him on another.Well can we come to an agreement that the asteroid feat is invalid bullshit, that it can't be applied to savage Hulk And can you stop using faulty abc logic? 🙂
To my knowledge grey hulk and thing never fought.
I wanted to get something else across of why it's a better feat for Orion than Drax. Orion fought Darkseid straight up. Drax had the luxury of having Thanos' back turned. Orion wasn't built to destroy Darkseid whereas Drax was thus making Orion's far impressive than what Drax did to Thanos with his back turned.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They did. Ben was in his mutated "pinapple" form though.
I remember that... I'm talking about normal ben grim... it never happened and he is failing to realize that grey hulk has fought his green counterpart and held his own... hell, grey hulk walked through attacks from the high evolution like it was nothing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Scan or issue number ?
As for Orions amp during DOTNG, there was indeed one.
See Darkseid made it so all of the souls of all the new gods (which was powering him) could only be tapped by someone with his own genetic code.That is why the Source spared Orion from having his soul stolen. So that when he resurrected him (orion), being the son of Darkseid, hed also be able to tap into that Infinite power.
Equal power sharing + destiny = dead Darkseid
Much easier to understand when you have the comic you argue about
Originally posted by paisapowerYes, I already stated he tapped into the same amp but in countdown there was no amp for Orion to tap into since ds wasn't amped.
As for Orions amp during DOTNG, there was indeed one.See Darkseid made it so all of the souls of all the new gods (which was powering him) could only be tapped by someone with his own genetic code.That is why the Source spared Orion from having his soul stolen. So that when he resurrected him (orion), being the son of Darkseid, hed also be able to tap into that Infinite power.
Equal power sharing + destiny = dead Darkseid
Much easier to understand when you have the comic you argue about
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I already stated he tapped into the same amp but in countdown there was no amp for Orion to tap into since ds wasn't amped.
Just re read countdown #2 and though Darkseid was denied the amp the destiny part of the equation was repeated over and over again.
Crazy thing is DarKseid had the edge and could have finished it yet deciced to monologue.
Originally posted by quanchi112facepalm You totally got my analogy didn't you?
Batman is street level whereas any Hulk is insanely strong. Saying a strength feat doesn't count fo any Hulk needs to be proven. Then post the scans.
Savage Hulk is more than capable of it since a weaker version already showed us this. Hulk gets angrier based on his emotions whereas Superman doesn't. Bump the appropriate thread next time this is for Thanos vs. darkseid.You cant apply a feat of another incarnation of Hulk, to Savage Hulk.......How hard is that to understand? This logic is terrible. Besides, Grey Hulk was shot into the asteroid like a bullet, the feat really isn't a legitimate strength feat.