did you read my post.... please show me causing himself to turn into a black hole, please show me DS cracking time and space under his own power, please show me DS winning the war without the ALE (amp), please show me DS cracking time and space again when the ALE was first broadcast. NONE of those occured. Not one. DS plan wasn't even to be killed. Yet another thing that happened that wasn't his plan. So somehow... DS falls to a place he doesn't belong.. which then has all these effects on the multiverse because he's falling to a place he doesn't belong. Yet, in some way, it was DS who did all this with his own powerset and a wave of his hand... Not the comics make it clear how and why it happened. DS has ZERO multiversal feats under his belt under his own power.
Originally posted by Comics QueenLike i said, yet he wasnt be someone with equal or greater power.
Thanos would be crushed by the combined might of the New Gods. That isn't saying he's weak.
Going by the hits Thanos took from Magus, DS would be dead after it only took HP DD 3 hits to have him at deaths door begging Superman to save him.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiExcept killing the time Trapper. Crushing the multiverse with his fist. The ALE does not boost abilities. It only gives the user the power to control wills. He's also created many realities with uber beings with in them. Seven Soldiers? Confirmed in FC.
did you read my post.... please show me causing himself to turn into a black hole, please show me DS cracking time and space under his own power, please show me DS winning the war without the ALE (amp), please show me DS cracking time and space again when the ALE was first broadcast. NONE of those occured. Not one. DS plan wasn't even to be killed. Yet another thing that happened that wasn't his plan. So somehow... DS falls to a place he doesn't belong.. which then has all these effects on the multiverse because he's falling to a place he doesn't belong. Yet, in some way, it was DS who did all this with his own powerset and a wave of his hand... Not the comics make it clear how and why it happened. DS has ZERO multiversal feats under his belt under his own power.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Except killing the time Trapper. Crushing the multiverse with his fist. The ALE does not boost abilities. It only gives the user the power to control wills. He's also created many realities with uber beings with in them. Seven Soldiers? Confirmed in FC.
Please show me when he crushed the Multiverse with his fist. If you're talking about FC.. I already crushed that theory in the ground. DS had ZERO multiversal power in FC and didn't do sh1t on his own. I laid out EXACTLY how things occured and showed you EXACTLY how it wasn't his own power. You can't dispute a thing I said. All that occcured that wasn't even his plan nor under his own power. That would be like Surfer altering something in 616 which then has multiversal effects on other universes. We don't go Surfer is multiversal. We go.. that is what happens when you mess with the 616.. it has multiversal effects. DS falling to a place he didn't belong nor plan and THAT having multiversal effects isn't close to multiversal. That is a joke.
What exactly about time trapper was multiversal. You named times he was amped.. so? What he hell does that have to do with DS under his OWN power doing multiversal feats?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThe Omega Sanction created multi realities under DS own power. Dispute that.
Please show me when he crushed the Multiverse with his fist. If you're talking about FC.. I already crushed that theory in the ground. DS had ZERO multiversal power in FC and didn't do sh1t on his own. I laid out EXACTLY how things occured and showed you EXACTLY how it wasn't his own power. You can't dispute a thing I said. All that occcured that wasn't even his plan nor under his own power. That would be like Surfer altering something in 616 which then has multiversal effects on other universes. We don't go Surfer is multiversal. We go.. that is what happens when you mess with the 616.. it has multiversal effects. DS falling to a place he didn't belong nor plan and THAT having multiversal effects isn't close to multiversal. That is a joke.What exactly about time trapper was multiversal. You named times he was amped.. so? What he hell does that have to do with DS under his OWN power doing multiversal feats?
Originally posted by Comics QueenThat wasnt the point, you said crushed, and as i said before that Jimmy Oslon had NO FEATS to say he was anything special. Hyperbole statement aint shit, hell Thanos beat the Maker who was stated on panel to have the power to reverse the crunch energies and destroy the universe.
Who had equal power to the combined might of the New Gods that Thanos fought and WON. DS beat Jimmy by amping himself.
Originally posted by NihilistDS had just spent a vast portion of power defeating DD first. So it wasn't a fresh fight. Two I"m going by CURRENT DS. Current DS was shown amping himself. Something that HP DS was now shown doing.
Like i said, yet he wasnt be someone with equal or greater power.Going by the hits Thanos took from Magus, DS would be dead after it only took HP DD 3 hits to have him at deaths door begging Superman to save him.
Originally posted by -K-M-
I haven't been reading your twos debate, but no the ALE is not a physical boost in power.
then you should read the debate because I never claimed such a thing. I just claimed that DS showed no multiversal power in FC and laid out exactly why with on panel facts and statements.
Originally posted by NihilistThe New Gods themselves had feats oh and The combined might of the new Gods soundly defeated the Source. There for Jimmy's power was undeniable. DS also in that same series was amping himself and fighting the Source boosted Orion's soul.
That wasnt the point, you said crushed, and as i said before that Jimmy Oslon had NO FEATS to say he was anything special. Hyperbole statement aint shit, hell Thanos beat the Maker who was stated on panel to have the power to reverse the crunch energies and destroy the universe.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
The Omega Sanction created multi realities under DS own power. Dispute that.
Please post the scans of this multi-reality thing you're talking about. We know creating pocket dimensions and alternate realities isn't multiversal. However, I want to see the scans anyways.
Originally posted by Comics QueenBecause he gets worn out quickly aint Thanos fault, Thanos fought Power Gem Thor then a shit load of Asgardian and still had enough juice to go at it with Odin who was fresh for the fight.
DS had just spent a vast portion of power defeating DD first. So it wasn't a fresh fight.
Two I"m going by CURRENT DS. Current DS was shown amping himself. Something that HP DS was now shown doing.Current DS is from FC who did nothing apart from sit in a chair.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please post the scans of this multi-reality thing you're talking about. We know creating pocket dimensions and alternate realities isn't multiversal. However, I want to see the scans anyways.
He's refering to this
1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_12.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_13.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_14.jpg
4. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_15.jpg
5. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_16.jpg
6. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_17.jpg
Originally posted by NihilistHe didn't really fight in that series, So I'm going by where he did fight which was in DOTNG and Countdown. Where he did self amp to crazy heights.
Because he gets worn out quickly aint Thanos fault, Thanos fought Power Gem Thor then a shit load of Asgardian and still had enough juice to go at it with Odin who was fresh fo the fight. Current DS is from FC who did nothing apart from sit in a chair.
