Darkseid vs. Thanos

Started by Allankles141 pages

Thanos clones are separate from him, they're not avatars. Their feats are their own not Thanos's by association.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Unsuspecting 😂 Galactus was talking to him saying how he should of killed him earlier and was going to do it now, plus he had turned to face Thanos when he fired the blast. so what if he begged for his life that wasnt the point, the point was DS is knowhere near a well noursihed Galactus.

Yes unsuspecting as they wern't fighting they were talking. That's the very definition of unsuspecting. Did the blast do any damage? No, but it did knock off his helmet. Sweet I'll use that same logic with Darkseid against Imperix and Spectre. Awesome logic.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Unsuspecting 😂 Galactus was talking to him saying how he should of killed him earlier and was going to do it now, plus he had turned to face Thanos when he fired the blast. so what if he begged for his life that wasnt the point, the point was DS is knowhere near a well noursihed Galactus.
And Thanos is nowhere near the combined might of the New Gods or a source amped Orion. So your point is nill hilist. The blast did nothing to Galactus. Hasn't Thing and Thor both knocked Big G off of his feat? I guess Thanos is as powerful as Thing and Thor.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
a clone. Not thanos and is not attributed to Thanos.
Of course is, it was a clone with weaker power than he has, and seeing as Thanos has on panel shown things in that same story the clone couldnt do. Thats the whole point of Thanos clones they all have his powers but and much weaker lvls.

Knocking someone of their feet isn't a big deal at all, especially if you don't do any damage. Galactus' body was also smaller than normal in that mini.

Much weaker levels? Statements say otherwise

Originally posted by Comics Queen
And Thanos is nowhere near the combined might of the New Gods or a source amped Orion. So your point is nill hilist. The blast did nothing to Galactus. Hasn't Thing and Thor both knocked Big G off of his feat? I guess Thanos is as powerful as Thing and Thor.
Again neither Jimmy or Orion have anything to shown they was using that power to its full potential.

Big difference Thor and Thing attacked a starving Galactus, not a well noursihed Galactus. Yeah youre right the blast did nothing to Galactus, but then again DS is weak sauce compared to Galactus as rightly portrayed in the DS/G crossover.

Originally posted by Allankles
Knocking someone of their feet isn't a big deal at all, especially if you don't do any damage. Galactus' body was also smaller than normal in that mini.
So what if he was smaller, thats simply down to the artist.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're backwards. Thanos deactivated them because they were too dangerous and powerful. He only realized that after the clone that Thor fought and the Celestial Quest one.

Those Infinity Abyss clones were already more powerful than Thanos. So your progressive logic fails. Details below. Key phrase: "Four of the most powerful."

Not: "The four most powerful." The actual statement is not exclusive, just descriptive. You could have been able to build on your progressive ABC thinking to infer that the one that Thor fought was weaker, if they were indeed, the absolute four most powerful. But they were not. So you can't. Let's stop butchering English.The newer clones were "only maybe = to Thanos?" How about three of the models rivaled Thanos' power:

And that Warrior, the Thanosi that was spliced with Gladiator's DNA, was actually five times more powerful than the original Thanos:

Even moreso, Omega actually far outclassed Thanos. So what do we have? Two clones who are outright more powerful than Thanos, Omega and Warrior. Two others who rivaled Thanos' power, X and Mystic. These four were among the most powerful ones, but not necessarily the four most powerful. The one that Thor fought was only described as a "higher powered" one. Thanos doesn't really describe the Celestial Quest one.

I'm not suggesting that the Thanosi which Thor fought was the most powerful. But trying to act like all his clones were far inferior power-wise and could never match the original Thanos is attenuation. And in two instances, outright wrong.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Again neither Jimmy or Orion have anything to shown they was using that power to its full potential.

Big difference Thor and Thing attacked a starving Galactus, not a well noursihed Galactus. Yeah youre right the blast did nothing to Galactus, but then again DS is weak sauce compared to Galactus as rightly portrayed in the DS/G crossover.

Actually in the cross over, he was not weak. He actually force Galactus to have to fight himself back to life. Galactus even comments on DS power. At any rate, that cross over was not accurate. It doesn't matter if they were using the power to it's full potential or not. They had the power. If you get hit with a mack truck, it doesn't matter if a kid drives it or a skilled truck driver, doesn't change the impact of the truck. DS used his own might against two Mac Trucks. And Orion is very skilled with power ups.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Much weaker levels?

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/booie2008/clone1.jpg

Great context fail as he is discribing clones from that arc, plus he killed in 1 shot one of the clones.

Why dont you show the pages earlier in which he says about lower lvl clones(from earlier stories)

Originally posted by Nihilist
Great context fail as he is discribing clones from that arc, plus he killed in 1 shot one of the clones.

Why dont you show the pages earlier in which he says about lower lvl clones(from earlier stories)

Why do I need to when clearly he says there are clones that rival his own power which directly makes your statement inaccurate. Doesn't mean all his clones are near his powers but as noted some ARE. So your comment = incorrect.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Great context fail as he is discribing clones from that arc, plus he killed in 1 shot one of the clones.

Why dont you show the pages earlier in which he says about lower lvl clones(from earlier stories)

We can post where DS says that no one has ever fought him. Or How almost every appearance is an avatar or Desaad. Since we are playing this game.

Originally posted by -K-M-
😂 that bs has already been put to bed by PR as hyperbole, espicialy the part in which Warlock say the clone was at least 4 times stronger than Thanos, hell that clone hit Warlock around 6 times and Adam was still alive, funnt thing Thanos killed Surfer in the same amount of punches. Warlock iirc has never taken any punches from Thanos to know how strong his punches are.

And as i said Thanos easily destroyed one of the clones in 1 blast.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So what if he was smaller, thats simply down to the artist.

It matters in terms of how much force it would take to drop him, if he was in his usual skyscraper+ size it would look way more impressive visually.

As it stands it looks like Thanos sent a 30 ft humanoid skidding across a few meters on the surface of a moon, not impressive by comic standards where we've seen characters send things a lot bigger than 30 ft giants flying.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Why do I need to when clearly he says there are clones that rival his own power which directly makes your statement inaccurate. Doesn't mean all his clones are near his powers but as noted some ARE. So your comment = incorrect.
You would be right if he was talking about the previous clones that i mentioned(which he say where weaker) and not the clones from that arc which were slpiced with other DNA.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
We can post where DS says that no one has ever fought him. Or How almost every appearance is an avatar or Desaad. Since we are playing this game.
Yeah you can do if you want, than Thanos wins by default, either way Thanos wins.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So what if he was smaller, thats simply down to the artist.
Let's not forget in Countdown we learn that DS from the comfy of his 4th world actually can send his Omega's thru someone else. So this feat is DS, and His alone. He simply used AL to deliver the blow.

Or if we want to talk about Thanos blasting Galactus who was not hurt at all, what about DS actually hurting a being far far greater than Galactus?

Originally posted by Allankles
It matters in terms of how much force it would take to drop him, if he was in his usual skyscraper+ size it would look way more impressive visually.

As it stands it looks like Thanos sent a 30 ft humanoid skidding across a few meters on the surface of a moon, not impressive by comic standards where we've seen characters send things a lot bigger than 30 ft giants flying.

Yeah its not like Galactus cant alter his size now is it. And fact is Galactus was well fed so he power lvl was far above his avrage. Thanos knocked him hundereds of yards and through his ship.

Basically youre just lowballin, like you do in any thread involving Thanos because you have a fit if anyone ever dare compare Thanos to DS on any lvl.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Yeah its not like Galactus cant alter his size now is it. And fact is Galactus was well fed so he power lvl was far above his avrage. Thanos knocked him hundereds of yards and through his ship.

Basically youre just lowballin, like you do in any thread involving Thanos because you have a fit if anyone ever dare compare Thanos to DS on any lvl.

Thanos more durable to blunt force Trauma than DS. That is for sure.