Originally posted by quanchi112
orion would get smoked by silver surfer hard and fast
Depends. Orion wielding the Mother box and Astro force would be something very hard for surfer to over come. Both can counter any of surfers powers. Surfer is most def faster and more adept at thinking his way thru a fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112It's called pis when a character losses to a another weaker than himself. Why don't seem to understand that, is beyond me.
where do u guys get this stuff that orion can destory a galaxy just like that. what is he galactus, is every one over in dc crapping solar systems out. whats going on over there. gimme a break orion could lose to superman so quit acting like when he wants he blackholes the milky way.
ok i have tried to explain to u guys over and over but i will spell it out very simply for u.
we only have what each character does in their own universe and as hard as it is we sometimes get involved in the dc s universe is tougher than marvels or marvels is better kinda thing. it turns into a pissing contest. so i must look at it from darkseids affect on his universe while also looking at thanos affect on his universe as well and see who has had a more significant impact. we cant look at quantity of feats alone becuz darkseid has been around longer and is therefore involved in more storylines. i dont like this at all and i feel it takes away from darkseid they should only bring him in for something major. that is another topic though. both have been very successful and both established each other as their brands marquee villain. lets face it if they made a noncanon book of these two going head to head the losing side would always cry foul. with being the marquee villain its easy to compare to the two not to mention starlin made him in respect to kirbys darkseid. the argument darkseid is first and hes better is a stale argument because both characters are fleshed out and both have different motivations for the actions that they do. i take a thanos loss and a darkseid loss and explore it more thoroughly. first thanos's loss. he went to asgard and was challenging odin becuz he had soemthing there to do and odin wouldnt listen to reason so this put thanos at a disdvantage becuz with prep hes almost unbeatable. thanos went into the fray becuz the allies he was with were trounced by odin almost immediately. oh and by the way he had powerful company and wasnnt with cap america. anyways he went back and forth with odin destroying the lay of the land and this and that. to make a long story shirt thanos lost but wouldnt yield his willpower wouldnt give in and if he need be he would have fought to the bitter end if not for beta ray bills explainin of the current situation to odin. now odin in marvel is their skyfather hes the biggest baddest and has been doing it for a long time. so a loss to him with powers only isnt that bad of a loss.
now on to darkseids loss. i am bringing up his one on one fight with superman here as the duel for steels life. i bring this up becuz this is exaclty what we are talking about a one on one duel no prep. it was darkseid vs superman in a balls to the wall fight to the finish. darkseid lost. superman is dc's flagboy and their toughest hero in their eyes. so to lose to him is not embarrassing as dc has superman do everything under the sun. the difference here is darkseid actually yielded. he conceded defeat to a lesser opponent. his will lost to supermans. darkseid is greater than superman in power but thanos is less that odin in power. see the difference. its like the number 1 seed darkseid losing to the number three seed in superman. thnaos was the second seed lost to the first seed. this is what both separate brands consider as canon. so basically this is where u can compare the two abd see hwo they each handled themselves. one on one duel both lost. darkseid was upset while thanos wasnt expected to win. my point is in thanos universe he doesnt lose to lesser characters but in darkseids universe he does. save a plot device a sundip radically changing drax for a story or what not. therefore thanos wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
respond to my actual post if u want to argue here. make an intellignet contradiction if u will. this isnt english class and lets keep this between the characters in question here. not some ridiculing match.
Sorry, it's just that not many people are willing to read a giant wall of text like that. Breaking it up into paragraphs would've made it easier to get your point across.
I don't completely agree with the seeding analogy. In DC, Superman will always be a 1 seed even if he is outclassed. You even called him "dc's flagboy".
evil ash if u cant understand my post i feel sorry for u. im not submitting this to a university so deal with it. as regards to my seeding analogy i just meant superman would never be the number one seed becuz he isnt that powerful. hes marvel version of thor. both have overcame incredle odds and cirumstances in their lives but arent like knock u on ur ass powerful. the reason i called him dc's flagboy is becuz its silly sometimes how superman always come through with the crazy odds against him. its like over in dc hes the man and everyone else is 2nd to him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
evil ash if u cant understand my post i feel sorry for u. im not submitting this to a university so deal with it. as regards to my seeding analogy i just meant superman would never be the number one seed becuz he isnt that powerful. hes marvel version of thor. both have overcame incredle odds and cirumstances in their lives but arent like knock u on ur ass powerful. the reason i called him dc's flagboy is becuz its silly sometimes how superman always come through with the crazy odds against him. its like over in dc hes the man and everyone else is 2nd to him.
IT is crazy. That is why on THIS forum we use logic and sense. Hence no CIS or PIS. Superman shouldn't beat half the people he does. I can name at least ten beings who can and should beat Superman for the majority right from DC.
Infinity Man
Doomsday
Any Top Tier GL
Desaad
Orion
Kalibak
Firestorm
Waverider
Monel
Element LAd
yes but dc always has superman win. im glad thanos isnt from dc. buncha idiotic superman fanboys over there. u still must deal with dcs idiocy with regards to superman always winning brings dc way down. i mean everything it minimsizes when they always have superman kick peoples asses he should have no right even competing with. he has so many weakenesses such as kyptonite red solar energy and magic. yet he pulls victories out of his ass. i agree with u that dc makes superman and his victories lame and unbelivebale a lot of the times.
Originally posted by quanchi112This one paragraph is about 3,200 characters long. 😱
ok i have tried to explain to u guys over and over but i will spell it out very simply for u.
we only have what each character does in their own universe and as hard as it is we sometimes get involved in the dc s universe is tougher than marvels or marvels is better kinda thing. it turns into a pissing contest. so i must look at it from darkseids affect on his universe while also looking at thanos affect on his universe as well and see who has had a more significant impact. we cant look at quantity of feats alone becuz darkseid has been around longer and is therefore involved in more storylines. i dont like this at all and i feel it takes away from darkseid they should only bring him in for something major. that is another topic though. both have been very successful and both established each other as their brands marquee villain. lets face it if they made a noncanon book of these two going head to head the losing side would always cry foul. with being the marquee villain its easy to compare to the two not to mention starlin made him in respect to kirbys darkseid. the argument darkseid is first and hes better is a stale argument because both characters are fleshed out and both have different motivations for the actions that they do. i take a thanos loss and a darkseid loss and explore it more thoroughly. first thanos's loss. he went to asgard and was challenging odin becuz he had soemthing there to do and odin wouldnt listen to reason so this put thanos at a disdvantage becuz with prep hes almost unbeatable. thanos went into the fray becuz the allies he was with were trounced by odin almost immediately. oh and by the way he had powerful company and wasnnt with cap america. anyways he went back and forth with odin destroying the lay of the land and this and that. to make a long story shirt thanos lost but wouldnt yield his willpower wouldnt give in and if he need be he would have fought to the bitter end if not for beta ray bills explainin of the current situation to odin. now odin in marvel is their skyfather hes the biggest baddest and has been doing it for a long time. so a loss to him with powers only isnt that bad of a loss.
now on to darkseids loss. i am bringing up his one on one fight with superman here as the duel for steels life. i bring this up becuz this is exaclty what we are talking about a one on one duel no prep. it was darkseid vs superman in a balls to the wall fight to the finish. darkseid lost. superman is dc's flagboy and their toughest hero in their eyes. so to lose to him is not embarrassing as dc has superman do everything under the sun. the difference here is darkseid actually yielded. he conceded defeat to a lesser opponent. his will lost to supermans. darkseid is greater than superman in power but thanos is less that odin in power. see the difference. its like the number 1 seed darkseid losing to the number three seed in superman. thnaos was the second seed lost to the first seed. this is what both separate brands consider as canon. so basically this is where u can compare the two abd see hwo they each handled themselves. one on one duel both lost. darkseid was upset while thanos wasnt expected to win. my point is in thanos universe he doesnt lose to lesser characters but in darkseids universe he does. save a plot device a sundip radically changing drax for a story or what not. therefore thanos wins.
It probably took you a good while to write, but I doubt many people [if any at all], will read it in it's entirety...
Why you ask?
Spoiler:😐
because it was written by quanchi112...
Originally posted by Galan007
This one paragraph is about 3,200 characters long. 😱It probably took you a good while to write, but I doubt many people [if any at all], will read it in it's entirety...
Why you ask?
Spoiler:😐
because it was written by quanchi112...
I must admit. I was one of the ones who skipped it entirely. But it's not becuz of who wrote it. It's becuz it was all bunched up and long and stuff.
Originally posted by quanchi112
well wanna respond to what i posted or just say u down the attention span for it?
I"ll say that Superman is NOT DC's Toughest Hero. Infinity Man is much Stronger than Superman. He makes Superman look like punk. Orion is Stronger. Captain Marver is far superior in Durability. Somewhere up there with Thanos. M"onel is tuffer than Superman. And there are many villians who are tuffer. Out right, Doomsday, Lobo, SPB, even Zoom can put a hurting on Supers. But You are correct. DC strokes superman's cock a bit much. and it's to the ruinization of other great Characters. Martian Manhunter, WW, and many others who should be as great as he or greater, suffer becuz of him.