Debating in the Comic Versus

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Your opinion is clearly biased, because if those were the criteria for how you deem a forum to be bad, then the OTF actually has more than enough to contend on all fronts.

-AC

Look at the Comic Book Forum Vrs. Its constant Bickering (Okay, that happens here too). If you look down the threads, almost none are past 30 posts at all. And also, as KoK stated, Most people make a thread, just for the hell of it and then never go back in it.

And that I'm pretty sure, makes a bad forum.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Yet, the roleplaying forums are a big hit, and most threads there actually are a good success.

....Unlike the CBvs Forum.

Yet, judging by your criteria, when applied to the roleplaying forums, it's the same situation.

You think CB Vs Forum is shit because of how people post and why, correct? Precisely the reason I dislike the roleplaying forums. Swings and roundabouts.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well, there are. If it's from a non-moderator, non-having to deal with it stance.

I think the roleplaying forums are quite pathetic, so I don't go there, but it doesn't mean people don't put effort in and therefore, give the forum a point to exist.

So it wasn't actually a counter.

Your opinion is clearly biased, because if those were the criteria for how you deem a forum to be bad, then the OTF actually has more than enough to contend on all fronts.

-AC

Not only the mods have to deal with the fallout from people acting like morons, you should know this.

And I'm also not a fan of certain aspects of the roleplaying forums, and in particular think the Unhosted section should be bombed off the face of the earth, but on the other hand? It's purpose is similar - to keep the shit that other people don't want to deal with out of the way and in one section.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yet, judging by your criteria, when applied to the roleplaying forums, it's the same situation.

You think CB Vs Forum is shit because of how people post and why, correct? Precisely the reason I dislike the roleplaying forums. Swings and roundabouts.

-AC

...Yet, its not people making a thread and abandoning it. Also, roleplaying takes a fair amount of though.. Actually it can take ALOT if you get a good one going.

EDIT: Talking about Hosted, By the way.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Look at the Comic Book Forum Vrs. Its constant Bickering (Okay, that happens here too).

So then why raise the point?

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
If you look down the threads, almost none are past 30 posts at all. And also, as KoK stated, Most people make a thread, just for the hell of it and then never go back in it.

I've had more experience in those forums than you, I need no research on it, nor am I defending the fact that it can be shit, and usually is. I'm putting across the point that your opinion is biased toward the OTF just because you keep up a wish of moderating the place.

The same happens here, with regards to threads. It just so happens that this forum is more active, so the less active threads get pushed away. That forum is more on topic than...well, the OFF TOPIC forum, so it will obviously be slower considering not anybody can post any random bs.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
And that I'm pretty sure, makes a bad forum.

The same applies to the OTF.

-AC

I dunno which is worse, Comics VS or Conspiracy. Probably conspiracy.

Originally posted by Lana
Not only the mods have to deal with the fallout from people acting like morons, you should know this.

I go in there, I see names that rarely venture out of that place.

I come in here, I see idiots from all over KMC.

Originally posted by Lana
And I'm also not a fan of certain aspects of the roleplaying forums, and in particular think the Unhosted section should be bombed off the face of the earth, but on the other hand? It's purpose is similar - to keep the shit that other people don't want to deal with out of the way and in one section.

So then what's your point?

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
...Yet, its not people making a thread and abandoning it. Also, roleplaying takes a fair amount of though.. Actually it can take ALOT if you get a good one going.

EDIT: Talking about Hosted, By the way.

Roleplaying takes thought by those who wish to put thought in. You're not thoughtful by default BECAUSE you roleplay.

You've never been in the CB Vs Forum like I have, because once a good thread got going, it really did get going.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I go in there, I see names that rarely venture out of that place.

I come in here, I see idiots from all over KMC.

Errr, what kind of point is that meant to be?

Originally posted by Lana
Errr, what kind of point is that meant to be?

The one that sort of puts your one away regarding people from a shit forum filtering into others. Considering how you implied we all have to deal with shit members, which is true.

You don't have to deal with shit members of the CB Vs Forum half as much as the ones here, because you frequent this forum a lot more, and members from here, as it's less of a specialist forum, frequent and bleed into other parts.

For the most part, people just sign up to go in the comics area and never come out.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So then why raise the point?

I've had more experience in those forums than you, I need no research on it, nor am I defending the fact that it can be shit, and usually is. I'm putting across the point that your opinion is biased toward the OTF just because you keep up a wish of moderating the place.

The same happens here, with regards to threads. It just so happens that this forum is more active, so the less active threads get pushed away. That forum is more on topic than...well, the OFF TOPIC forum, so it will obviously be slower considering not anybody can post any random bs.

The same applies to the OTF.

-AC

Why do you keep pulling me into defending the OTF whole heartily. I've already said that yes, it is a shitty forum. Also, I don't want to Mod The OTF. I don't have the time, nor patience to do so. Also, I've been banned before, and had a few warnings; automatic No Mod ship right there. Like I was saying, I just find the CBvs a bad forum, and then you brought the OTF into this. Not me.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Why do you keep pulling me into defending the OTF whole heartily. I've already said that yes, it is a shitty forum. Also, I don't want to Mod The OTF. I don't have the time, nor patience to do so. Also, I've been banned before, and had a few warnings; automatic No Mod ship right there. Like I was saying, I just find the CBvs a bad forum, and then [b]you brought the OTF into this. Not me. [/B]

So you find it a bad forum, fine. Maybe leave the matter-of-factly claims out of it next time.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The one that sort of puts your one away regarding people from a shit forum filtering into others. Considering how you implied we all have to deal with shit members, which is true.

You don't have to deal with shit members of the CB Vs Forum half as much as the ones here, because you frequent this forum a lot more, and members from here, as it's less of a specialist forum, frequent and bleed into other parts.

For the most part, people just sign up to go in the comics area and never come out.

-AC

Where on earth did you get ANYTHING like that from my posts? That's not even remotely what I said OR meant.

When I say "keeps all the shit in one area away from the rest", I meant content, not people. I doubt everyone who posts in the CB forums has an interest in Vs stuff and are probably glad it's all in one place and not spread over all the CB forums.

Originally posted by Lana
Where on earth did you get ANYTHING like that from my posts? That's not even remotely what I said OR meant.

When I say "keeps all the shit in one area away from the rest", I meant content, not people. I doubt everyone who posts in the CB forums has interest in Vs stuff and are probably glad it's all in one place and not spread over all the CB forums.

You answered the first question with the following explanation.

Secondly, then if content is your concern, I fail to see how either is worse. There are OTF-esque threads and comic book threads that idiots incorrectly post elsewhere than the places they are meant to be. Furthermore, you made a point saying "We all have to deal with the morons.". If content is a concern of yours, then you're wrong.

Vinny doesn't have to deal with the shit content of the Vs Forums if he doesn't go there.

I fail to see how one forum is worse than another, surely it's a people problem if content spreading is a concern.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You answered the first question with the following explanation.

Secondly, then if content is your concern, I fail to see how either is worse. There are OTF-esque threads and comic book threads that idiots incorrectly post elsewhere than the places they are meant to be. Furthermore, you made a point saying "We all have to deal with the morons.". If content is a concern of yours, then you're wrong.

Vinny doesn't have to deal with the shit content of the Vs Forums if he doesn't go there.

I fail to see how one forum is worse than another, surely it's a people problem if content spreading is a concern.

-AC

Yeah, point? Where do you see me defending the OTF at all? Note: I'm not. I haven't at any point.

And that's not what I said, actually. What I said is that the mods are not the only people who have to deal with people being morons. That does not necessarily mean everyone.

Frankly, I think the OTF and CB Vs both tend to be pretty crap. The OTF because it's so bland and boring, and CB Vs because of how hostile it gets. Though that's also a trend (hostility) seen an any place where debates take place, it's not exclusive to that particular forum, but it is the largest forum here that revolves around debating.

Originally posted by Lana
Yeah, point? Where do you see me defending the OTF at all? Note: I'm not. I haven't at any point.

So this is "I'm gonna say something for the sake of it"?

Originally posted by Lana
And that's not what I said, actually. What I said is that the mods are not the only people who have to deal with people being morons. That does not necessarily mean everyone.

Then explaining yourself may be an appropriate solution. I'm not a mind reader. Who does it mean? Not just the mods, and not everyone, so who are you talking about?

All of us have to deal with morons somehow.

Originally posted by Lana
Frankly, I think the OTF and CB Vs both tend to be pretty crap. The OTF because it's so bland and boring, and CB Vs because of how hostile it gets.

So then we're back to square one. You think they're both crappy forums, we both agree, but I was debating Vinny seemingly giving OTF the edge based on nothing but personal bias, and you chimed in with a point that was more or less irrelevant.

-AC

who is up here talkin about comics?

Freakin Geeks.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

So then we're back to square one. You think they're both crappy forums, we both agree, but I was debating Vinny seemingly giving OTF the edge based on nothing but personal bias, and you chimed in with a point that was more or less irrelevant.

-AC

I Said they both sucked ermm

I just meant, the OTF comes up with more interesting things usually. I browse both forums, and all it ever is, is bickering over if Superman could beat Ratman in a fight.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
I Said they both sucked ermm

I just meant, the OTF comes up with more interesting things usually. I browse both forums, and all it ever is, is bickering over if Superman could beat Ratman in a fight.

And all it ever seems to be in here, is some kind of generic club or some other bs.

"Interesting" is relative. Batman Vs Superman is interesting to some, and at least that premise holds more credibility than "So and So's Bar.".

Discussing the potential outcome between two comic book characters fighting is a lot less silly than "Let's create a thread where we pretend we're in a bar, but still type like we do in any other thread.", or worse, ones involving sex.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
And all it ever seems to be in here, is some kind of generic club or some other bs.

"Interesting" is relative. Batman Vs Superman is interesting to some, and at least that premise holds more credibility than "So and So's Bar.".

Discussing the potential outcome between two comic book characters fighting is a lot less silly than "Let's create a thread where we pretend we're in a bar, but still type like we do in any other thread.", or worse, ones involving sex.

-AC

Social thread: They are in almost every forum that has people under 17. And alot of people meet here and become good friends off the forum. Also, there ARE ideas the get alot of people active, and moving around the forum, or having fun. The OTF has been very, Very Dry lately, but like I said, I just don't think it's as bad as a Vrs forum. Of course thats opinion, but the OTF did and still have good threads that come up. With The comic Book Vrs, they will eventually run out of any normal character to us, and have to relate to ones people have never heard about.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Social thread: They are in almost every forum that has people under 17. And alot of people meet here and become good friends off the forum. Also, there ARE ideas the get alot of people active, and moving around the forum, or having fun. The OTF has been very, Very Dry lately, but like I said, I just don't think it's as bad as a Vrs forum. Of course thats opinion, but the OTF did and still have good threads that come up. With The comic Book Vrs, they will eventually run out of any normal character to us, and have to relate to ones people have never heard about.

One social thread is fine. Many under the guise of different names is stupid.

You base your opinion of the OTF having good threads on what? Nothing but "Cos I believe they are.". Good threads in the sense of enjoyment, but they are much less credible than a thread with a point, regardless of how many hits it gets.

A thread intended to discuss Superman Vs The Hulk has a point, there's a debate to be had. So and So's Sex Shop, So and So's Bar, So and So's Coffee Shop, aka all the same thread, different names.

There will always be new members, new comics, new stories, new characters and powers. So there will always be things that change the dynamic and relevance of that forum.

Here it will just remain a pile of same threads/different names.

-AC