Debating in the Comic Versus

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
One social thread is fine. Many under the guise of different names is stupid.

You base your opinion of the OTF having good threads on what? Nothing but "Cos I believe they are.". Good threads in the sense of enjoyment, but they are much less credible than a thread with a point, regardless of how many hits it gets.

A thread intended to discuss Superman Vs The Hulk has a point, there's a debate to be had. So and So's Sex Shop, So and So's Bar, So and So's Coffee Shop, aka all the same thread, different names.

There will always be new members, new comics, new stories, new characters and powers. So there will always be things that change the dynamic and relevance of that forum.

Here it will just remain a pile of same threads/different names.

-AC

Yet, the OTF isn't Just Social Threads. Pretty much every poster who posts ALOT in the OTF has one, and everyone else just huddles around them. People will constantly come up with new ideas to entertain people. Of course the Comic book Vrs will go on, I just PERSONALLY find that its a place for people to post a thread, and never go back to it. Even though, the main ones, AKA HulkvSuperman, SupermanvBatman do have good arguments and such.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Yet, the OTF isn't Just Social Threads. Pretty much every poster who posts ALOT in the OTF has one, and everyone else just huddles around them. People will constantly come up with new ideas to entertain people. Of course the Comic book Vrs will go on, I just [b]PERSONALLY find that its a place for people to post a thread, and never go back to it. Even though, the main ones, AKA HulkvSuperman, SupermanvBatman do have good arguments and such. [/B]

READ what I'm saying. READ it.

The very fact that almost every poster has the same thread under a different name proves my point. The threads in the Vs Forum, regardless of success, have more point by default. There's a goal to be achieved that, unless it's a duplicate thread, hasn't been achieved before, nor asked. Here, it's not the same.

One social thread would technically be enough. You couldn't have one thread for Vs discussion.

What you PERSONALLY find it to be isn't relevant, what it actually IS in comparison is what counts.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
READ what I'm saying. READ it.

The very fact that almost every poster has the same thread under a different name proves my point. The threads in the Vs Forum, regardless of success, have more point by default. There's a goal to be achieved that, unless it's a duplicate thread, hasn't been achieved before, nor asked. Here, it's not the same.

One social thread would technically be enough. You couldn't have one thread for Vs discussion.

What you PERSONALLY find it to be isn't relevant, what it actually IS in comparison is what counts.

-AC

Yet, you personally find they have more point. Like, a thread in the Comic Book forum about Screech vs Troll Man 41, it may be very stupid and make no sense, yet a thread in the OTF that could possibly (Making one up on the spot) Have to do with bringing KMC members to a convention, or getting them more active to do something on other parts of the forum or such. It's all about how much thought is put into a thread. And Yes, One Social thread wouldn't suffice. The OTF has the most traffic on the site, and if you have all these people posting in one thread, you wouldn't be able to communicate at all.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Yet, you personally find they have more point. Like, a thread in the Comic Book forum about Screech vs Troll Man 41, it may be very stupid and make no sense, yet a thread in the OTF that could possibly (Making one up on the spot) Have to do with bringing KMC members to a convention, or getting them more active to do something on other parts of the forum or such. It's all about how much thought is put into a thread. And Yes, One Social thread wouldn't suffice. The OTF has the most traffic on the site, and if you have all these people posting in one thread, you wouldn't be able to communicate at all.

No, you're getting really baffled.

The goal to be achieved by a social thread is to be social. It has been achieved when the first one was created, the rest serve no purpose other than to repeat and clog. Vs Threads keep going and, regardless of success, have more point because they haven't been done before. Social threads have, so doing another one, just to do the same thing with the same people, has much less of a point, if it even has one at all. Please stop the bias, it's getting a bit silly.

I love the way you just made up a thread that doesn't exist. It's invalid as a result.

Of course you'd be able to communicate, but either way, multiple social threads are mere repetition. Many different Vs Threads are not, success doesn't change that.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you're getting really baffled.

The goal to be achieved by a social thread is to be social. It has been achieved when the first one was created, the rest serve no purpose other than to repeat and clog. Vs Threads keep going and, regardless of success, have more point because they haven't been done before. Social threads have, so doing another one, just to do the same thing with the same people, has much less of a point, if it even has one at all. Please stop the bias, it's getting a bit silly.

I love the way you just made up a thread that doesn't exist. It's invalid as a result.

Of course you'd be able to communicate, but either way, multiple social threads are mere repetition. Many different Vs Threads are not, success doesn't change that.

-AC

You're fixated on Social threads which yes, on the first page there is about 6 active ones. Yet, a good amount of people post in each one, and its pretty much a place for OTF's cliques. Anyway, Thats not the point. If you spent more time in the OTF, you'd know that its NOT just social threads, and that some really good ideas do come out of it. If someone can think up a thread, that has a point and is actually quite interesting and fairly complex(For an OTF Thread), it already has more on 80% of the SBvs forums, if not more.

Here's my views...if you don't like a particular forum...get the **** out and quit your whining about it.

That's my entire argument.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
You're fixated on Social threads which yes, on the first page there is about 6 active ones. Yet, a good amount of people post in each one, and its pretty much a place for OTF's cliques. Anyway, Thats not the point. If you spent more time in the OTF, you'd know that its NOT just social threads, and that some really good ideas do come out of it. If someone can think up a thread, that has a point and is actually quite interesting and fairly complex(For an OTF Thread), it already has more on 80% of the SBvs forums, if not more.

I'm not sure if I'll have to start drawing paint sketches for you, but I'll give it a go with text again.

The very fact that there are 6 threads doing what one could do, and in absolutely no different ways, is what proves my point. There are not 5 Batman Vs Superman threads, unless they are duplicates that have been quickly closed, because one is needed, there's a point inherent to that thread and therefore, another isn't needed.

"Really good ideas" is subjective. I've never really seen anything that great here, with regards to ideas.

The point isn't success of threads, that's what you're failing to understand and grasp. The 6 social threads are more successful, but 5 of them are essentially pointless, because they are doing what one thread could do.

You wouldn't have 6 Spider-Man Vs Batman threads, you'd have one. Ergo, the threads there have more point than ones here that are completely the same and duplicated time and time again, because they are different threads to each other.

Originally posted by Puzzle
Here's my views...if you don't like a particular forum...get the **** out and quit your whining about it.

That's my entire argument.

That's not what's being discussed.

-AC

The OTF and the Comics VS are practically the same animal. The only thing I was referring to as a negative was the fact that they think they're great debaters. Don't hold this as arrogant, but I've already torn apart five guys in a mere hour that are supposed to be the top debaters within that forum.

You cannot call the Comics VS bad because they argue about comical characters and take them to heart.

I've seen pointless threads, ridiculous debates about supposed "Love Triangles" online and people generally acting ridiculous.

The only difference? The OTF has better spelling.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So what is the point of this?

I back ya, Chaos. They might be jealous 😄 Heated discussions happen. Best to respect and go forward

Oh well, I've resigned at the Comic VS. Too much easy debating. I'll stick to the GDF.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not sure if I'll have to start drawing paint sketches for you, but I'll give it a go with text again.

The very fact that there are 6 threads doing what one could do, and in absolutely no different ways, is what proves my point. There are not 5 Batman Vs Superman threads, unless they are duplicates that have been quickly closed, because one is needed, there's a point inherent to that thread and therefore, another isn't needed.

"Really good ideas" is subjective. I've never really seen anything that great here, with regards to ideas.

The point isn't success of threads, that's what you're failing to understand and grasp. The 6 social threads are more successful, but 5 of them are essentially pointless, because they are doing what one thread could do.

You wouldn't have 6 Spider-Man Vs Batman threads, you'd have one. Ergo, the threads there have more point than ones here that are completely the same and duplicated time and time again, because they are different threads to each other.

That's not what's being discussed.

-AC

You're failing to grasp the fact that they aren't all the same thread, just because they are social threads. Each one is for a different Clique. For Example, K.Diddys Palace and such, My Thread, and Sanctuary's. Three different social threads. K.diddys is about him coming and talking with his older, ******* friends usually. Mine, is about coming on and talking about things that usually relate to sex(So I keep it out of EVER thread) and Sanctuary's is an ALL girl thread. If you merged all them together, no one would post in it, because people don't come to KMC to be forced to be in a thread with someone else.

Also, You aren't in the OTF 85% of your KMC Time; I am. There HAVE been alot of good threads, that went on for awhile and were very successful. For example: The KMC Cards. Spent Hours Photoshoping each member a card, then another hour making up the rules on how to play the game on KMC. After getting them out, and the rule son how to get the cards, I actually had two groups of people start playing each other with the cards, and many others just playing with them in threads. Hell, they're still played with today and it was made last year. Is that not a Successful thread? There are alot more too that have been very successful, that took people along time to put together, you just haven't been here to see them because from what it seems, you don't stalk the OTF alot.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Oh well, I've resigned at the Comic VS. Too much easy debating. I'll stick to the GDF.

Just because I'm a bastard, I thought I'd show everyone how hard I just owned the raging and numerous Wolverine fans.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10185&from=thread&pagenumber=856#post8520340

Lookit how my argument is excused by Jinzin because he can't say shit. God, I f*cking rock.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
You're failing to grasp the fact that they aren't all the same thread, just because they are social threads. Each one is for a different Clique. For Example, K.Diddys Palace and such, My Thread, and Sanctuary's. Three different social threads. K.diddys is about him coming and talking with his older, ******* friends usually. Mine, is about coming on and talking about things that usually relate to sex(So I keep it out of EVER thread) and Sanctuary's is an ALL girl thread. If you merged all them together, no one would post in it, because people don't come to KMC to be forced to be in a thread with someone else.

Also, You aren't in the OTF 85% of your KMC Time; I am. There HAVE been alot of good threads, that went on for awhile and were very successful. For example: The KMC Cards. Spent Hours Photoshoping each member a card, then another hour making up the rules on how to play the game on KMC. After getting them out, and the rule son how to get the cards, I actually had two groups of people start playing each other with the cards, and many others just playing with them in threads. Hell, they're still played with today and it was made last year. Is that not a Successful thread? There are alot more too that have been very successful, that took people along time to put together, you just haven't been here to see them because from what it seems, you don't stalk the OTF alot.

Are you trying to misunderstand me? It doesn't matter if it's a different clique or not. It's the same kind of thread; Social. It doesn't matter about who's involved or what they're called, because the content, regardless of subject, is the same.

Like I said, good threads is subjective, don't act as if it's a fact just because you like them. Just because someone saw fit to spend hours photoshopping cards (Hmm how long did that last? Exactly), doesn't mean it makes it good. It's not a successful THREAD, it just means it's an idea that a couple of people return to. You're clutching at straws to justify your BS argument.

Stop saying "From what it seems.", because you're obviously not a perceptive guy.

-AC

🙄

I'm reserving judgement on the CB vs forum because I never visit the place, but if it is a clone of the OTF as many people seem to be suggesting then I would think it's no longer serving its purpose. The OTF may be filled with crappy, repetitive and moronic threads but that's what it's for so it is serving its purpose.

Just sayin' 😛

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Just because I'm a bastard, I thought I'd show everyone how hard I just owned the raging and numerous Wolverine fans.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10185&from=thread&pagenumber=856#post8520340

Lookit how my argument is excused by Jinzin because he can't say shit. God, I f*cking rock.

is that what you think you're doing? because I just dismantled your argument like it was childsplay. 😐

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Are you trying to misunderstand me? It doesn't matter if it's a different clique or not. It's the same kind of thread; Social. It doesn't matter about who's involved or what they're called, because the content, regardless of subject, is the same.

Like I said, good threads is subjective, don't act as if it's a fact just because you like them. Just because someone saw fit to spend hours photoshopping cards (Hmm how long did that last? Exactly), doesn't mean it makes it good. It's not a successful THREAD, it just means it's an idea that a couple of people return to. You're clutching at straws to justify your BS argument.

Stop saying "From what it seems.", because you're obviously not a perceptive guy.

-AC

AC, you're running out of things to go on here 😂 You keep trying to go back to the Social thread factor, and saying that I'm completely biased, and making it seem like you aren't. Let It go, you don't have enough evidence to prove that the CBvs is better then the OTF. And You Still don't get it, and I don't think you ever will. All Social threads are not the same, and I clearly pointed that out in my previous post.

Quit flapping your ego 😂

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Wow, I saw the debater that everyone thought was the best debater in those forums ...

Wow. Just ... Wow. Spending a WEEK debating in there has dropped my IQ significantly.

May I add I didn't even mention the word "Handbook" for the week I've spent debating in that forum.

Isn’t it a bit pointless to say how much a “good debater” you are if you have to say it. 😉

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
AC, you're running out of things to go on here 😂 You keep trying to go back to the Social thread factor, and saying that I'm completely biased, and making it seem like you aren't. Let It go, you don't have enough evidence to prove that the CBvs is better then the OTF. And You [b]Still don't get it, and I don't think you ever will. All Social threads are not the same, and I clearly pointed that out in my previous post. [/B]

I'm not running out of things to go on, I've always been making the same point, you're just being either too simple or too ignorant to grasp what I'm saying. Maybe it's because you have some kind of inherant love for this forum, I don't know.

I'm not biased at all, I left that forum because it became shit, and I'm not defending it, I'm simply promoting fairness. It doesn't work like that, Vin. You can't just make claims and have them stand, you have to back them up, but you're young and new to this whole debating things. So I'll accept the fact that you haven't honed your skills yet.

I don't think the CB Vs Forum is BETTER, junior. I simply said its threads have more point by default, for reasons I continually explain and you keep ignoring. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of looking at it from an objective point of view.

If anything, I prefer this place, but it is what it is; KMC's toilet. The CB Vs Forum has a point to its threads, regardless of how successful they are or not. Social threads are the same if the content is the same, it doesn't matter who's involved or what the SPECIFIC content is. If one thread is about people chatting and chilling, and the other is the same, then they are the same thread, because the content is the same.

I understand that, being an OTFer, this may be a little much for you, but it's not that hard a point, and replying with "You don't get it", doesn't work in debates. Try spending time in a few, grasp the rules of conduct, then perhaps try again.

-AC