Worst examples of artists selling out...

Started by Alpha Centauri5 pages
Originally posted by tabby999
You are yet to convince me Bob Dylan is going around shelling for companys because hes greedy. There is a distinct difference between someone going against their opinions and morals and someone simply appearing in an ad. Dylan made money from it, sure, but he hasn't changed the music, he hasn't changed his standpoint on the things that made people like him to begin with and to be honest, he did an ad for Victorias Secret, its not like hes wearing a chicken suit outside a KFC or promoting Walmart.

Am I? I'm convinced he sold for the company because he's greedy, I believe all evidence points to that. Whether or not you agree is of no concern to me.

Stop harping on morals. That area of selling out isn't what we're dealing with, we're dealing with greed, which is quite obviously why he did what he did.

The evidence is overwhelming.

-AC

50 Cent has sold out

His goal was to make pop music to begin with.

Keven Federline advertising his album on WWE and it still didnt help him. 🙂

Marilyn Manson's new album Eat Me, Drink Me is a pretty good example, if you ask me. I downloaded a few songs from LimeWire and then dleted them after one listen.

It's a shame how drastically he's changed his style since Portrait of an American Family and Anitchrist Superstar. Those were fantastic albums.

Many consider Run DMC's hook up with Aerosmith to do "Walk this Way" back in the day was selling out.

Originally posted by Impediment
Marilyn Manson's new album Eat Me, Drink Me is a pretty good example, if you ask me. I downloaded a few songs from LimeWire and then dleted them after one listen.

It's a shame how drastically he's changed his style since Portrait of an American Family and Anitchrist Superstar. Those were fantastic albums.

Manson has been a corporate whore for ages now.

I don't know how Bob Dylan being in an ad is selling out..

It seems to me from the very beginning he just always did what he wanted to, not giving a **** whatever anyone else thought.

Bob Dylan in a Victoria's Secret commercial is the epitome of such.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Bob Dylan in a Victoria's Secret commercial is the epitome of such.

-AC

How?

Do you think he needs the money or personally feels that line of lingerie is appealing and in need of promotion? No, no.

He's doing it cos he wants the money, attaching his song to a commercial of that nature is greed, that's selling out. He became a tool.

-AC

Funkadelic in 1976 sold out big time.

They changed their sound so they could make more money.

Oh, I figured we meant selling out as in compromise your artistic values to gain money...

My bad.

Apparently using your songs for money in any way is selling out nowadays.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, I figured we meant selling out as in compromise your artistic values to gain money...

My bad.

Apparently using your songs for money in any way is selling out nowadays.

If he's willing to demean his music in such a way he is compromising his artistic values.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If he's willing to demean his music in such a way he is compromising his artistic values.

-AC

Wait, is it because he also starred in that commercial, or do you think the White Stripes sold just as much out with the Coke thing?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wait, is it because he also starred in that commercial, or do you think the White Stripes sold just as much out with the Coke thing?

Yes, and to answer your question; not as much, because they didn't demean the meaning of already existing music they had wrote in favour of the commercial. Jack White said explicitly that if he's going to do it, he won't use any of his existing material. Whilst it's a decision I frown upon (And to be fair, no artist really owes it to me NOT to do these things, just like I don't owe it to continue respecting them), it would have been worse, to me, if they'd just been lazy about it.

The same cannot be said for Bob Dylan.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, and to answer your question; not as much, because they didn't demean the meaning of already existing music they had wrote in favour of the commercial. Jack White said explicitly that if he's going to do it, he won't use any of his existing material. Whilst it's a decision I frown upon (And to be fair, no artist really owes it to me NOT to do these things, just like I don't owe it to continue respecting them), it would have been worse, to me, if they'd just been lazy about it.

The same cannot be said for Bob Dylan.

-AC

Totally subjective, you could just as well argue that writing new stuff for commercials is a worse case of selling out.

Either way, it's hardly the worse case, imo, I find changing your sound to appeal to a broader audience instead of pursuing your artistic ideals or doing something after directly speaking out against it worse.

Selling a song you already made to a company that wants to support their product (which in Dylan's case he apparently even wanted ... I mean, he played in the commercial, it seems to me it was just something he wanted to do) is to me not "selling out", but...just "selling".

Well we at least agree on a few degrees of selling out.

-AC

Vanilla Ice for...everything he has done.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Do you think he needs the money or personally feels that line of lingerie is appealing and in need of promotion? No, no.

He's doing it cos he wants the money, attaching his song to a commercial of that nature is greed, that's selling out. He became a tool.

-AC

He may have become a tool, but that's not how I would define selling out. I agree with Bardock that it is purely when artistic direction is changed for money or at the whim of a record label.