We don't agree.
The Slim Shady LP is better than Canibus' work, the rest isn't. If they were to battle now, Canibus would take him apart, and if anything, he did when they feuded.
You only heard Eminem's side of the story and lapped it up. Eminem's side of the beef got better exposure, which to his fans means he won.
LL got at Canibus better than Eminem ever did.
-AC
Originally posted by C3PS
i've actually only heard one song by him, buckingham palace. it's pretty boring to be honest.
Buckingham Palace is my favorite track on "Can-I-Bus" i thought he ripped it the most on that track out of all the other songs on that album.
"Yo whoever grabs the mic after me'll get booed,
get everything in the club thrown at you and your crew,
from Moet bottles to bar stools, fruits and food,
you got an album out?,
you'll get hit wit your CD too...
Runnin' outside crying, lyiin', denyin'
that you ain't the gay rapper but you got fcuked by him..."
haha
That verse is my favorite part of that track.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not my business what he does, it's his life, but the fact that the overwhelming, more or less factual evidence shows that he sold out, is something you cannot deny, even when you are trying to prove otherwise. You choose to ignore that he sold out, that's what's happening, and that is evident. How? Because your "proof" backs ME up more than it backs YOU up.-AC
You're looking at it pessimistically. We both don't know what Eminems intentions were. Your meaning of taking advantage of mothers and kids is that he did it for money cause he became a "corporate whore" and my meaning is that he took advantage of being heard by many more, newer ears. On top of him making more money in the process. which he knew would come anyway, because he was so popular. We don't know if his own daughter influenced him or not or if the corporation in him influenced him. So your saying "he sold out" is really assumption and practically baseless. As my assumption may be. So im not ignoring anything. And proof my ass. We both have no proof of what his intentions were.
i don't really belive in the term "sold out" but i dont think eminem's latest albums have anything to do with him making more money, i think he's just lost his touch. if anything sslp marked the beginning of his career as a sell out. he found out he wasnt selling records with that "infinite" bullshit so what did he do? he changed his style up and became a millionare. wouldn't that be selling out?
The Slim Shady LP was quite clearly post-Infinite in BOTH senses of the phrase. It came after and was also a reaction to. It was his defeatist attitude that he adopted and the style that was born out of being UNSUCCESSFUL and accepting that this will always be the case.
As a result, he clearly didn't care, and that's what made him great.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You're looking at it pessimistically. We both don't know what Eminems intentions were. Your meaning of taking advantage of mothers and kids is that he did it for money cause he became a "corporate whore" and my meaning is that he took advantage of being heard by many more, newer ears. On top of him making more money in the process. which he knew would come anyway, because he was so popular. We don't know if his own daughter influenced him or not or if the corporation in him influenced him. So your saying "he sold out" is really assumption and practically baseless. As my assumption may be. So im not ignoring anything. And proof my ass. We both have no proof of what his intentions were.
No, I'm looking at it realistically from the evidence given. You're looking at it from the view of "I refuse to believe he sold out.", because you think it's ok to be greedy. You confuse business with artistry.
You're wrong, it's not about our "interpretations", because if one looks at the events that occured, you can clearly see what happened and the way his attitude changed. You are making excuses for him to save him from the "sell out" tag, seeing things as you wish to see them, not how they actually did unfold. I'm not seeing them how I wish, I wish he never sold out, but he did.
Baseless? Baseless as in every single decision and action he made after The Slim Shady LP? Baseless as in every single change in attitude that eventually led to him becoming just another puppet? No, they're not baseless. YOU are the one saying "Maybe he...what if he...". You're just clutching at straws because you don't want to admit what he clearly did.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centaurioh.. i see what you're saying. that makes sense. i do like mmlp and the eminem show personally but i do see where you're coming from now.
The Slim Shady LP was quite clearly post-Infinite in BOTH senses of the phrase. It came after and was also a reaction to. It was his defeatist attitude that he adopted and the style that was born out of being UNSUCCESSFUL and accepting that this will always be the case.As a result, he clearly didn't care, and that's what made him great.
Here's some truth for your ass
MMLP is the best Em album and shits on any Bis album.
MMLP, Em Show, Infinite are all better then any Bis album.
SSLP is ehhhhhh at best. Really, just mediocre music.
The only real rap sell-outs are Black Eyed Peas.
Can-I-Bus and Mic Club are the only Canibus albums that are listenable.
Both beef tracks were godaweful and Em would have won if he ignored the irrelevant rapper that had his career ended by Cool James, but he lost by giving him attention (kinda like Jay and Jim).
Though Square Dance was entertaining.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
Here's some truth for your assMMLP is the best Em album and shits on any Bis album.
MMLP, Em Show, Infinite are all better then any Bis album.
SSLP is ehhhhhh at best. Really, just mediocre music.
The only real rap sell-outs are Black Eyed Peas.
Can-I-Bus and Mic Club are the only Canibus albums that are listenable.
Both beef tracks were godaweful and Em would have won if he ignored the irrelevant rapper that had his career ended by Cool James, but he lost by giving him attention (kinda like Jay and Jim).Though Square Dance was entertaining.
Speaking of "ass", it looks like you pulled that "truth" out of yours.
-AC