Team NESTS vs M. Bison

Originally posted by Sado22
wait...you didn't know that?!😉
come on bud. if anything in this world i've given up on its:
-modern rock bands and the future of rock
-hollywood making decent movies again
-me getting a life while doing engineering
-fighting games and them making sense

all fighting games are stupid. period. you're telling me Tekken, SF, KoF, DoA make sense? they don't. heck the only game with a good plot was Bloody Roar (till BR2) and that game was never popular with people.

I think Street Fighter makes perfect sense,except alpha 3. Tekken was fine until jin, and KOF is just stupid IMO.

Originally posted by Sado22

hmm....and i said that Terry and Ryo were beaten you'd probably start cribbing about how terry sucks infront of the new guys and is just a jobber. there really is no making you happy is it? 😄

~Sado

Where did you say that, you stated they simply showed up.

IMO, The problem with KOF is bad writing, if it's even writen at all. Some times I think SNK just freestyles the story as the new game develops.

who expects fighting game plots to make so much sense anyways. who cares how they got onto the space station, they just did. if you are really curious, just use your imagination

gameplay mechanics are always more important than storyline in a game. the story just adds more to it.

Where did you say that, you stated they simply showed up.

That sounds like fanservice, we all know terry and Ryo would have died if they fought igniz. But, to keep there reputations as unbeatables and not have them interfere in the flame users plot. Snk had them do nothing, now I'm glad I dropped KOF completely.

Sado: Terry beat Geese.
Brain: he jobbed.
Sado: Terry tied with Kyo.
Brain: Kyo jobbed. SNK doesn't want Terry to lose.
Sado: Yamazaki was beating up the entire FF3 roaster.
Brain: see! Terry can't win against anyone who is tough.
Sado: but he beat Geese and Krauser!
Brain: they were jobbing.
Sado: he beat Grant too and lasted agianst Iori aswell.
Brain: they were both jobbing.

IMO what lightness says is the truth......who cares how or why?

~Sado

Originally posted by lightness
who expects fighting game plots to make so much sense anyways. who cares how they got onto the space station, they just did. if you are really curious, just use your imagination

gameplay mechanics are always more important than storyline in a game. the story just adds more to it.

Maybe you don't care about it but, others do. And, I doubt KOF fans give a **** about gameplay. Since most KOF fans are casual players anyway, TMNT: Tournament fighters has a bigger tournament scene than KOF FFS.

EDIT: And, so does smash bros.

Yet another SNK boss beating an entire roster....see what I mean?

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Yet another SNK boss beating an entire roster....see what I mean?

KOF, not SNK.That kind if crap doesn't happen in Samurai Spirits.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Maybe you don't care about it but, others do. And, I doubt KOF fans give a **** about gameplay. Since most KOF fans are casual players anyway, TMNT: Tournament fighters has a bigger tournament scene than KOF FFS.

EDIT: And, so does smash bros.

casual gamers have all the more reason to not care too much about little bits like how they got onto the ship, and try to make sense of it. If all fiction made sense in this world, they may not be enjoyable anyways

How would you assume kof has stayed alive for so long with just their american audience, which they barely try to target nowadays. which series still lives and which dies, tmnt tf or kof?

japanese are probably more hardcore gamers.

Originally posted by lightness
casual gamers have all the more reason to not care too much about little bits like how they got onto the ship, and try to make sense of it. If all fiction made sense in this world, they may not be enjoyable anyways

Casual fans are the ones who usually care about it crap like that most of the time, to be honest. And, I'm not excpecting KOF's plot to make sense, I just wanted consistency and good writing.

Originally posted by lightness

How would you assume kof has stayed alive for so long with just their american audience, which they barely try to target nowadays. which series still lives and which dies, tmnt tf or kof?

Because the casual scene is always huge, they don't help the developer in terms of gameplay hardcore fans do. They just produce revenue And,The only reason why snk released KOF yearly was to fundraise other projects. TMNT fighting games are not around because 2d fighting games in general do not make money. It's not because KOF is a hit, if it were SNK would not have gone bankrupt.

EDIT: TMNT was more mainstream then KOF ever was, and it had a bigger tournament scene.

So over all, what game has the largest tournament scene? Smash Bros (I don't even consider that a real fighting game.)? I think it's MVC2 and SF2, is it?

Originally posted by King Nothing
So over all, what game has the largest tournament scene? Smash Bros (I don't even consider that a real fighting game.)? I think it's MVC2 and SF2, is it?

Emp,
the Orochi saga is probably one of the coolest stories in a fighting game. that's all beside the fact that the orochi saga is ACTUALLY based on Japanese Mythology. NEST saga sucked and i agree to that. but Orochi saga was brilliant and was second only to Tekken2 storyline.
SF story always sucked. it has the most underdeveloped characters ever. Ryu is too one dimensional. Ken too. so is akuma and so is Chunli. Bison is a typical cliched "baddy-who-wants-to-destroy-the-world". Gill is something new though and makes an interesting "badguy".
however, compare bison or gill to people like Heihachi or Kazuya (not that Kaz is a badguy but he had his evil days). Kazuya and Hachi are both extremely well rounded and multidimensional. Jin has more dimensions than Ryu. when was the last time ryu did something "out of character" or "different"? never. waht about Ken? or chunli? or Guile? or Akuma?
the SF cast sucks in terms of personality. they have none.
further compare that to Kyo, Iori or K' all three of whom are very interesting "heroes" with their dimensions. Terry, even though he's like ryu in the fighting-is-my-life sense, even he has many sides to him: the easy going loner, a bit carefree to irresponsible extent, occassional thick-headedness.
ryu practically has no flaws...aside from being a borring horse's @$$.
so how is it that the SF story is better?

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
Emp,
the Orochi saga is probably one of the coolest stories in a fighting game. that's all beside the fact that the orochi saga is ACTUALLY based on Japanese Mythology. NEST saga sucked and i agree to that. but Orochi saga was brilliant and was second only to Tekken2 storyline.

Ugh, the orochi arc was okay. There is nothing original about being based off japanese mythology. So, many anime's do that, it's ridicules and redundant.

Originally posted by Sado22

SF story always sucked. it has the most underdeveloped characters ever. Ryu is too one dimensional. Ken too. so is akuma and so is Chunli. Bison is a typical cliched

And, Rugal, Igniz, and every other boss in kof is not cliche but bison is? If you say so sado, and how is Chun-li cliche in the Video Game world when she was the first.

I don't see how ryu being under developed character means the entire cast of Street fighter is the same. Sounds to me like you r describing KOF, IMO. Adding random new characters who take the backseat and have no effect on the plot what-so-ever is what KOF does best.

Originally posted by Sado22

"baddy-who-wants-to-destroy-the-world". Gill is something new though and makes an interesting "badguy".
however, compare bison or gill to people like Heihachi or Kazuya (not that Kaz is a badguy but he had his evil days). Kazuya and Hachi are both extremely well rounded and multidimensional.

LOL, Heihachi pulled the same cliche villian act is bison in tekken 3. When he tried to use jin to capture info on ogre.

Originally posted by Sado22

Jin has more dimensions than Ryu. when was the last time ryu did something "out of character" or "different"? never. waht about Ken? or chunli? or Guile? or Akuma?

Jin is nothijng but a "Deus Ex Machina" that introduced the devil gene, he doesn't do jack in the story but job people.

Originally posted by Sado22

the SF cast sucks in terms of personality. they have none.
further compare that to Kyo, Iori or K' all three of whom are very interesting "heroes" with their dimensions.

If you say so, I don't see anything innovative or intresting about characters with tthe exact same powers saving the day every game. that's very lame to me.

Originally posted by Sado22

Terry, even though he's like ryu in the fighting-is-my-life sense, even he has many sides to him: the easy going loner, a bit carefree to irresponsible extent, occassional thick-headedness.
ryu practically has no flaws...aside from being a borring horse's @$$.
so how is it that the SF story is better?

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Let's see here it's:

-More consistent, there aren't massive plot holes like there are kof. How many timelines does KOF have?

-It's not redundant since they let different characters shine, tekken has not done that since jin and kof with it's stuoid flame users. Someone like aliex would never become a main character in KOF or tekken

-A tight cast, not filled with nobodies and jobber bosses who lose for no reason.

-Most characters actully have an impact on the plot.

etc

Sado, if you think it's better that's fine. It's your opinion but, the KOF plot is trash IMO.

And, Rugal, Igniz, and every other boss in kof is not cliche but bison is? If you say so sado, and how is Chun-li cliche in the Video Game world when she was the first.

I don't see how ryu being under developed character means the entire cast of Street fighter is the same. Sounds to me like you r describing KOF, IMO. Adding random new characters who take the backseat and have no effect on the plot what-so-ever is what KOF does best.

LOL, Heihachi pulled the same cliche villian act is bison in tekken 3. When he tried to use jin to capture info on ogre.

Jin is nothijng but a "Deus Ex Machina" that introduced the devil gene, he doesn't do jack in the story but job people.

If you say so, I don't see anything innovative or intresting about characters with tthe exact same powers saving the day every game. that's very lame to me.

More consistent, there aren't massive plot holes like there are kof. How many timelines does KOF have?

It's not redundant since they let different characters shine, tekken has not done that since jin and kof with it's stuoid flame users. Someone like aliex would never become a main character in KOF or tekken

A tight cast, not filled with nobodies and jobber bosses who lose for no reason.

Most characters actully have an impact on the plot.

no need to worry about me being offended or something. I know you have no such intentions and i respect your opinion too. See ya.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
Rugal didn't want to destroy the world and nor did Igniz. you're mistaken my friend.
oh i didn't say Chunli is cliched. i said she's onedimensional. so are Guile, Ken and the others.

And, I disagree chun-li is not cliche, before her there was no fighting Game Female. She set the standard and yet, you consider her cliche, how?

And, guile cliche, name one character with guile's design before his appearence?

Originally posted by Sado22

SF has so many characters that don't have an effect on the canon story. SFA3 has like 30 character but all it boils down to is Bison, Ryu, Cammy, Chunli and Charlie. Ken, Sagat, Sakura, the dolls, Guile, Guy and Rose all play a very small part of the story. they do as much as

Originally posted by Sado22

Ryo, Terry, Kim etc. did in aiding Kyo against Rugal etc.

Originally posted by Sado22

but you already said that SFA3 sucked so i wont hold it against you or pull your leg with it.
how about SF2? who are the central characters? Bison? akuma? Chunli? what does ryu do in SF2? what about Ken?

First you complain about Ryu being a boring main character ,and now when he's not the star you complain? Make up you mind my friend.

Originally posted by Sado22

SF3.
what happened in that. What great roles did Sean, Makuto, Twelve, Q, Remy, Necro, Yun, Yang, Ibuki, Dudley do? how much did they help in the storyline. all they did was...nothing.

All those people you listed had a role in the main plot ( The Illuminati/Gill arc)

Ibuki-went after the G-file, and were given details about it *Important
Necro-Is being chased by the illuminati *Important
Yun -In third strike, him and yang fight gill, and are the first to be given hints of gills plan *Important
Q-Capcom has purposely avoid discussing his plot.
Twelve-He works for the illuminati, and is a product of the G-project when gill is in charge

Originally posted by Sado22

all we know is that Sean was pwned by Ken and the last we saw of him he was being pwned by a mere hadouken by ryu for the umpteenth time in a row.

Sean, Ryu, Ken, Gouki and Oro have absolutely no relevance to the plot of Street Fighter 3. Infact, they were not supposed to be in the game. And, futhermore them being there has no effect on the plot. so, who cares what happened to sean.

Originally posted by Sado22

heck what role does Alex perform in the story...aside from getting lucky that oro left, that Gill took a dive for him and he got pwned by Ryu perfect.

He's the chosen one, and is essential to gills master plan. Compare that to Oro & ryu's plot, which involves the same old thing (It's obviously a fanservice to fans)

Originally posted by Sado22

in KoF at least Ryo and Terry, the previous two heroes have played a crucial role in helping against Orochi.
in KoFKyo they have an even bigger role and are of key help. in the NESTS saga, these two helped defeat Igniz.
i am not saying that the other characters are not ignored by SNK miind you. what you said is true. however, i'm just reminding you that Capcom does the same.

Helped in what way, tell me what exactly did they do? They can't hurt orochi at al, since his only weakness is the flames of yagami and kusanagi.So, them being there is really irrelevant.Not to mention that their timelines are ignored in KOF.

Originally posted by Sado22

agreed. IMO Jin is pretty one-dimensional and cliched (just how many "evil daddy goody mommy" child have we seen anyway?). however he has certain bits about him that make him at least a little more unique...say his humorous, klutz side shown in T5 asuka ending and his voilent side shown in T4 Kaz/Jin ending. these both are extremes compared to his usual quiet and brooding disposition. like i said, Jin and ryu aren't too different when it comes to being boring though.

Doesn't really matter to me, jin sucks.

Originally posted by Sado22

Kyo and Iori were only similar in moves in KoF95. KoF96 onwards its a whole new ball game. the only remaining similar move they have is the "shiki-oniyaki" (their antiair move). aside from that they have totally different moves. with K' in the mix its even more unique. ryu, Ken, akuma, sakura, sean, dan....now THESE are "exact same powers".
personalities are far apart between K', Kyo and Iori.
one is an arrogant punk, the other is almost just like Kazuya (Iori) so that's definitely a lot of dimensions. K' on hte other hand has got a good personality as well.

Are you serious, so, kyo's powers are different from Iori's how? Sado, FYI the shoto's have different moves as well.

Originally posted by Sado22

Yes. definitely..KOF is inconsistent. but you're barring how many retcons Capcom has done to their games too. of course KoF becomes a lot lamer with the timeline crap though. i agree.

Originally posted by Sado22

i would say so-so here.
just a question: how much respect did Cody Travers (hero of one of capcom's original classics FF) get in sfa3? how crucial was he to the plot?and that's just one character.
what about the rest of the cast of SF3 or SF2? how important were they all to the plot.

He got none, because alpha 3 was out of character, because everyone should have been doing their own thing. Not, walking around fighting bison.Bosses are only relevant in tourney's in the SF continuity but, alpha 3 broke that tradition. The reason why was because capcom added to much characters to alpha 3's console version. They should have stuck to the arcade version instead.
Also, none of the new characters in alpha 3 played a role in the plot of alpha 3 really, except the dolls. And, I already listed who was important in Street Fighter 3.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
All this talk about Roster Owning SNK Bosses is getting boring. Everyone seems to be able to do it, but in the end they end up losing to Kyo and the like.

Smells like bullshit.

KOF 2010 : New SNK Boss Syndrome Mega God Orochi blood infused with all data of every fighter in the omniverse and the power of heaven, hell & earth along with Satsui No Hadou, Psycho Power, Soul Power, SSJ level 8 & 7 Dragonballs takes on every single SNK creation while having an arm tied behind his back, being blindfolded, high on weed with a wooden leg, half asleep, not being serious & sitting on a wheelchair. Then the final battle takes place with him and Kyo, and Kusanagi ***** slaps him out of the screen and then gets ready to fight O. Iori.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
KOF, not SNK.That kind if crap doesn't happen in Samurai Spirits.

Originally posted by Sado22

hence my above comment about you never being happy no matter what terry does. 😄
its the same with brain.

Originally posted by Sado22
Sado: Terry beat Geese.
Brain: he jobbed.
Sado: Terry tied with Kyo.
Brain: Kyo jobbed. SNK doesn't want Terry to lose.
Sado: Yamazaki was beating up the entire FF3 roaster.
Brain: see! Terry can't win against anyone who is tough.
Sado: but he beat Geese and Krauser!
Brain: they were jobbing.
Sado: he beat Grant too and lasted agianst Iori aswell.
Brain: they were both jobbing.

He's a rundown on FF for anybody who wants to know about Fatal Fury(AKA Terry Bogard Adventures) Storyline. This ain't 100% accurate, but it's pretty much all you really need to know.

Terry's 1st fight w Geese: Terry gets beat up badly in the 1st parts of the fight. Then all of the sudden he gets tough and comes back to secure a victory. I'm not sure exactly how the end went, but I imagine it was like this:

Geese is punching Terry in the face while Terry is on his knees. Terry starts shaking and getting up. Geese applies more punches but it's like Geese's beating on him is actually making Terry stronger now for some magical reason. Terry blocks a punch and then wags his finger in Geese's face in a "No no no brutha" fashion. Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Terry Irish whips Geese into a wall. Geese bounces off and Terry big boots him in the face. Terry bounces off a wall and leg drops Geese. The end.Terry is victorious

That was awesome wasn't it kids? Want to learn more? Okay!
Terry vs Krauser:
Terry gets beat up badly in the 1st parts of the fight. Then all of the sudden he gets tough and comes back to secure a victory. I'm not sure exactly how the end went, but I imagine it was like this:

Krauser is punching Terry in the face while Terry is on his knees. Terry starts shaking and getting up. Krauser applies more punches but it's like Krauser's beating on him is actually making Terry stronger now for some magical reason. Terry blocks a punch and then wags his finger in Krauser's face in a "No no no brutha" fashion. Krauser throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Krauser throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Krauser throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Terry Irish whips Krauser into a wall. Krauser bounces off and Terry big boots him in the face. Terry bounces off a wall and leg drops Krauser. The end. Terry is victorious! AGAIN!!!!!

Terry vs 'Zaki: 'Zaki cuts through the other FF guys(see:Jobbers & nobodies) like a hot knife through butter, but not Terry. Terry's a real American & he's got heart. Terry somehow magically avoids losing. Awesome!!!!! Not only is Terry tougher than the other FFers, he's apparently tougher than all of 'em put together! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!

Terry vs Jins: Jins are tough and lay a beating on Terry. It's not enough to put our hero down though. Terry's a real American & he's got heart. Geese steals the Jin scrolls & weakens the jins by doing so. Terry leg drops them both. The end. Terry(w/a lil help from Geese) is victorious! AGAIN!!!!

But wait! There's more!!
Nightmare Geese vs Terry
Nightmare Geese is Geese w/the power he stole from the Jins.
Terry gets beat up badly in the 1st parts of the fight. Then all of the sudden he gets tough and comes back to secure a victory. I'm not sure exactly how the end went, but I imagine it was like this:
N.Geese is punching Terry in the face while Terry is on his knees. Terry starts shaking and getting up. N.Geese applies more punches but it's like N.Geese's beating on him is actually making Terry stronger now for some magical reason. Terry blocks a punch and then wags his finger in N.Geese's face in a "No no no brutha" fashion. N.Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. N.Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. N.Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Terry Irish whips N.Geese into a wall. N.Geese bounces off and Terry big boots him in the face. Terry bounces off a wall and leg drops N.Geese. The end.Terry is victorious. AGAIN!!!!!!

Now you know everything important about the old FF games. You're welcome. & remember kids, train hard, eat your vitamins & say your prayers.

Bison BTW.

Yes, Igniz did want to destroy the world and become it's new god. Same Zero with his Zero canon, and so did rugal. they are no different then bison.

And, I disagree chun-li is not cliche, before her there was no fighting Game Female. She set the standard and yet, you consider her cliche, how?

And, guile cliche, name one character with guile's design before his appearence?

All , those people you named played a large part in alpha 3. Infact, all those people you named are the only characters with canon endings. And, notice how that's way more than KOF's big time players. Kof is only effected by: The sacred treasures,Ash, and K. 5 people after 10 years and over 10 games c'mon sado.

But, that's all they ever do, never mind that the timeline of KOF contradicts FF completely. So, them helping does not effect their respective plots at all.

First you complain about Ryu being a boring main character ,and now when he's not the star you complain? Make up you mind my friend.

All those people you listed had a role in the main plot ( The Illuminati/Gill arc)

[quote]Ibuki-went after the G-file, and were given details about it *Important

if you consider that a plot helping story then how about then almost any team enterign the KoF story have a relevant bit to play as in KoF97, aside from athena's team, EVERYONE had something to do with Orochi power. Terry and gang entered to help Kyo cuz he knew he would need his help. ryo too. Ikari team entered cuz of Leona's blood connection to it. Iori entered for blood connection and to get his mits on Kyo. Kyo was binded by destiny. women's team entered for help and Kagura's connection to Orochi as the sealer.

and by the way, and this isn't a dig at you or something but i've been meaning to tell you people this:
after all the years of following the stories of the games i like and KoF story more so, i have yet to read somewhere that Orochi is weakened by the flames.
the flames are not a family "bloodline" thing either. very often in videogame stories a technique passes down the family (think of Kim Jaehoon "inheritiing the phoenix combo from Kim or rock's blood having geese's power, the raging storm and deadly rave).
anyone can learn how to weild flames as is shown in KoFKyo story where Kyo's cousin learns how to weild purple flames and when Kyo asks Iori about it Iori tells kyo that never will a yagami teach "the art of weilding purple flames to one not of Yagami bloodline". that's the same reason why at times even the other orochi clan memebers were able to have flames, best example is Orochi Chris.
its more like a family art. its a fighting style...pretty much like how the Mishima's have the electricity and the kazama's have the white mist. its an art. its just like how Ryu or Ken have flames in thier attacks. only in Kyo's case its a family standard style of combat.
at the same time it doesn't say that orochi lost to the flames cuz he was weakened by them etc. he lost because he was over-powered. this may be jobbing...but it definitely is not a plot device.

Necro-Is being chased by the illuminati *Important

Yun -In third strike, him and yang fight gill, and are the first to be given hints of gills plan *Important

Q-Capcom has purposely avoid discussing his plot.

Twelve-He works for the illuminati, and is a product of the G-project when gill is in charge

it goes both ways, IMO, emperor. Capcom has made some crucial mistakes in their stories aswell. not telling us what happened in SF2 for one and leaving SF3 extremely open for another. at least KoF closes its sagas. KoF is by NO MEANS a perfect story as it has many crucial flaws (timeline for instance). however, the characters of KoF are famous for their better character backgrounds and story. not that this matters to you, but even in wikipedia, they note how SNK always produces well rounded and developed characters.

See ya.

~Sado

Terry's 1st fight w Geese: Terry gets beat up badly in the 1st parts of the fight. Then all of the sudden he gets tough and comes back to secure a victory. I'm not sure exactly how the end went, but I imagine it was like this:

Geese is punching Terry in the face while Terry is on his knees. Terry starts shaking and getting up. Geese applies more punches but it's like Geese's beating on him is actually making Terry stronger now for some magical reason. Terry blocks a punch and then wags his finger in Geese's face in a "No no no brutha" fashion. Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Terry Irish whips Geese into a wall. Geese bounces off and Terry big boots him in the face. Terry bounces off a wall and leg drops Geese. The end.Terry is victorious

That was awesome wasn't it kids? Want to learn more? Okay!
Terry vs Krauser:
Terry gets beat up badly in the 1st parts of the fight. Then all of the sudden he gets tough and comes back to secure a victory. I'm not sure exactly how the end went, but I imagine it was like this:

Krauser is punching Terry in the face while Terry is on his knees. Terry starts shaking and getting up. Krauser applies more punches but it's like Krauser's beating on him is actually making Terry stronger now for some magical reason. Terry blocks a punch and then wags his finger in Krauser's face in a "No no no brutha" fashion. Krauser throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Krauser throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Krauser throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Terry Irish whips Krauser into a wall. Krauser bounces off and Terry big boots him in the face. Terry bounces off a wall and leg drops Krauser. The end. Terry is victorious! AGAIN!!!!!

Terry vs 'Zaki: 'Zaki cuts through the other FF guys(see:Jobbers & nobodies) like a hot knife through butter, but not Terry. Terry's a real American & he's got heart. Terry somehow magically avoids losing. Awesome!!!!! Not only is Terry tougher than the other FFers, he's apparently tougher than all of 'em put together! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!

Terry vs Jins: Jins are tough and lay a beating on Terry. It's not enough to put our hero down though. Terry's a real American & he's got heart. Geese steals the Jin scrolls & weakens the jins by doing so. Terry leg drops them both. The end. Terry(w/a lil help from Geese) is victorious! AGAIN!!!!

But wait! There's more!!
Nightmare Geese vs Terry
Nightmare Geese is Geese w/the power he stole from the Jins.
Terry gets beat up badly in the 1st parts of the fight. Then all of the sudden he gets tough and comes back to secure a victory. I'm not sure exactly how the end went, but I imagine it was like this:
N.Geese is punching Terry in the face while Terry is on his knees. Terry starts shaking and getting up. N.Geese applies more punches but it's like N.Geese's beating on him is actually making Terry stronger now for some magical reason. Terry blocks a punch and then wags his finger in N.Geese's face in a "No no no brutha" fashion. N.Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. N.Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. N.Geese throws another punch but Terry blocks it & punches him in the face. Terry Irish whips N.Geese into a wall. N.Geese bounces off and Terry big boots him in the face. Terry bounces off a wall and leg drops N.Geese. The end.Terry is victorious. AGAIN!!!!!!

~Sado

Nah. Terry's boss fights are much more like the end of this I'm afraid. From the 2 min mark on it's a typical Terry/Boss battle

we are talking about other stuff again......