Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
There was only 8 clones in the CW? WTF are you talking about? Taun Wi even said something along the lines of 150,000 with a million more on the way. So where do you get 8?Any Jedi that can move things with the force, can do things to GG, simple as that. If they don't have the fortitude to do it, or if they don't think to pull one off (a force move) then they're not that great. Ki Adi was a powerful Master and quite capable of pwning him with the force, provided that he could get out of GG's reach to do it.
And what does having a saber to block ONE blaster, have to do with blocking MANY blasters? The Jedi have the force and couldn't block shots from like 8 clones, how would a non-force sensitive block the same amount, let alone more?
Wait, what are you talking about? Ok, I think I missunderstood you, cause I thought you were talking about the scene where Grievous was fighting the Arc's after the 5 jedi at once battle.... I'm confused... 😕
And once again, how the hell will a jedi get such an oppertunity in a fight? This isn't, "Ki-Adi Mundi on courascants highest building vs Grievous on the ground", they are just in a fight, trying to open his chest would be stupid, seeing as he has probably cut off his head when he has opened it...
Let me give you an example. Like saying Mace Windu vs a Wookiee in an unarmed fight. Now you could say "the wookiee can rip off human and robot arms, it wins". It is indeed true that it can, however, will the wookiee even touch Mace? No way in hell.
So just because they have got that ability doesn't mean that Grievous is defenceless against it. Jedi have tried to use the force on him, but it was rendered futile. Dooku even said that ONLY the best of the jedi could defeat Grievous, not "anyone who can use the force"....
I have no clue what you're talking about on the last thing.......
Originally posted by kamikz
She took the midnight train going anyyywhheeerreee... 😆
Oh, this is Journey's drummer Deen singing "Faithfully". He displays a considerable amount of power and control, and he sounds like Steve Perry.
You are aware of what a fatigued Ki Adi can do, right?
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=20&page=059
(Thanks Makashi)
A fatigued and injured Ki can do this. I really don't see how Ki will have any problems with doing something similar to Grievous.
1. Ki was tired. I know he was tired (and even injured!) in the scan I posted, but the fact is, it would effect how quickly he could pull off a force attack, and Grievous wasn't giving him too much time to do such a thing in their fight. The lame ass force pushes he dished out were clearly not the upper limit of Ki's power, so I can only assume that he wasn't able to unleash his full power in the time Grievous was giving him. Now let's say, hypothetically, a fully energized Ki were to face Grievous in combat (with a bit of space between them), I have no doubt in my mind that he'd be able to disable him with the force. I mean really, what's stopping Ki from crushing his sabers, thereby making Grievous virtually harmless?
2.Ki knew nothing about Grievous. He didn't know if he could use the force, defend against the force, he knew jack about Grievous. If he knew beforehand a few of Grievous' weaknesses, I'd say it's likely Ki would exploit a few of those, don't you think?
3. Fear and surprise would have played a huge part. Watch the fight again, Ki was terrified, he didn't know what the hell he was up against. Now if you really think Ki could fight to the best of his ability under this condition, coupled along with the others that I mentioned, then you're dumb.
4. Seeing as you're such a major fan of out-of-universe explanations, I can just go and do the same, and say that the CW cartoon creators didn't know the full extent of Ki's powers, and that the representation of Ki seen in the cartoons is not an accurate one.
How was Ki injured? Anyway, he had 4 other jedi to help him fight Grievous, if he cannot pull one single good move out of that, then he ain't likely to do it ever. You think Ki would get a second to use the force against Grievous alone? He would be up to him in no time, then slice him if he tried anything, and Grievous can dodge force attacks as well.
Seriously, if 5 jedi at once cannot immobilize him, then how should Ki alone do it because he is not tired? Prove how much it affected him, cause does really being tired result in unable to grab something with the force? If so, he truly does SUCK!
Anyway, if it was that easy, then no jedi should've been pwnt by Durge, and every jedi should've wtfpwned Jango. Durge had no force, yet he pwnd both Anakin and Obi-Wan. People should just be able to lift Durge, or anything, as you say. But no one could ever do it, it is not that easy.....
And Dooku said only the top jedi could beat Grievous, and Ki-Adi is not one of them, and being decent at force powers wouldn't do it alone.....
I know he was tired (and even injured!) in the scan I posted, but the fact is, it would effect how quickly he could pull off a force attack, and Grievous wasn't giving him too much time to do such a thing in their fight.
Exactly. Why would Grievous give him time to do shit?
The lame ass force pushes he dished out were clearly not the upper limit of Ki's power, so I can only assume that he wasn't able to unleash his full power in the time Grievous was giving him.
Exactly, I fail to see how they were "lame ass force pushes." the fact that Grievous felt the need to dodge it and it left a dent in the ground and destroyed the area it hit, that was most certainly Ki Adi's upper limits, I'm sure if he was completely fresh he'd do a little better but he'd still get owned.
Now let's say, hypothetically, a fully energized Ki were to face Grievous in combat (with a bit of space between them), I have no doubt in my mind that he'd be able to disable him with the force. I mean really, what's stopping Ki from crushing his sabers, thereby making Grievous virtually harmless?
And why don't we hypothetically have Grievous temporarily lose his brain and stand around like an idiot while Ki Adi Mundi attempts to kill him. Since thats the only way your logic works.
Considering Grievous has about 6 more lightsabers he can pull out his ass, I don't think that would be much of a problem. And again why in the hell would Grievous just stand there and let Ki attempt to use the force on him? Why wouldn't he do as he did in CW and you know...move around attempting not to get hit?
Also he's been shown to be able to completely dodge force attacks as he did again in CW when he dodged Shaak Ti's jedi party's force attacks and it took Shaak Ti seeing three other force attacks fail to guess where Grievous would appear next, are you seriously saying Ki could do that before Grievous engages him in saber combat and proceeds to hack his ass up.
And as we've seen he can simply create a defensive shell that can walk through an Ithorian's sound blast that its self can rip up durasteel, blow away magna guards and completely destroy rooms. And even when hit by that he still keeps coming seemingly unaffected.
Again, he's shown himself to be able to dodge a force attack from Ki Adi Mundi fairly easily. Moreover elite arc troopers, with all kinds of heavy artillery and and air ship couldn't even shoot him down, what makes you think Ki Adi Mundi could keep up even when he's shown that he can't.
2.Ki knew nothing about Grievous. He didn't know if he could use the force, defend against the force, he knew jack about Grievous. If he knew beforehand a few of Grievous' weaknesses, I'd say it's likely Ki would exploit a few of those, don't you think?
And still lose.
3. Fear and surprise would have played a huge part. Watch the fight again, Ki was terrified, he didn't know what the hell he was up against. Now if you really think Ki could fight to the best of his ability under this condition, coupled along with the others that I mentioned, then you're dumb.
Did Mace know what he was up against in Sidious? No. Did Yoda, no, did Padawan Revan know what he was up against in Malak? No. I could go on but the only thing you proved is Ki Adi Mundi is a pussy who lets fear cloud his judgment unlike say a Mace Windu.
Not that he was even as scared as your aiming him out to be, he was the one who stressed remaining calm, he was the one who kept his composer and even knew he was probably going to die. Now if he had been acting like the padawan who ran out to fight then you'd have a point, but he didn't. He was nervous yes(him profusely sweating is evidence of that) but terrified? No. Now AFTER the duel when the Arc troopers arrive after he's seen what Grievous could do then I'd say he was terrified, that something like that existed.
4. Seeing as you're such a major fan of out-of-universe explanations, I can just go and do the same, and say that the CW cartoon creators didn't know the full extent of Ki's powers, and that the representation of Ki seen in the cartoons is not an accurate one.
Everything your purposing works under the assumption Grievous is gonna stand there and let Ki Adi Mundi blast him with the force.
Knowing Grievous as we do, he's not a fan of fighting unless he has the predisposed conditions on his side, fear, surprise and intimidation, why would he walk straight up to a fully fresh Ki Adi Mundi and attempt to fight him? Even though if he did he'd probably win.