Vinny may not be Gaytascular.....

Started by allfg21 pages

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Trying difficult?

What the ... ?

You need to disperse. HE took it out of context, not me. He made a comparison using two totally unparalleled principals.

And no, trying hard means it takes some difficulty. That is the point I made out if you read my previous posts instead of being purposely ignorant.

WTF? Trying hard means it takes some difficulty? I find beating Brazil with USA on Pro Evo at 1 star very easy. Does that mean I can't try hard at doing so? Again, you're taking the meaning of 'hard' out of context.

Originally posted by allfg
WTF? Trying hard means it takes some difficulty? I find beating Brazil with USA on Pro Evo at 1 star very easy. Does that mean I can't try hard at doing so? Again, you're taking the meaning of 'hard' out of context.

Ugh, I hate stupidity and ignorance; Especially when used together.

You're not getting it.

AC said "You're trying too hard."

I said "I don't find it difficult."

If I was trying HARD, It would be difficult because I was trying hard, even if it was a meager difficulty.

Hardness and Difficulty are quite similar. They are nearly parallel, actually.

Have you ever found something to be ... Well ... "Easily difficult", Allfg?

Oh my days, please go and debate in the SWVF, we haven't had a Sorgo there for a while now.

Anyways, here's how your logic fails:

If I was trying HARD, It would be difficult because I was trying hard, even if it was a meager difficulty.

This would only be correct if a form of difficulty made 'trying hard' a necessity. You can still try hard even when you don't have too. It seems you don't really understand the meaning of the phrase.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
No, it does not suggest that. You just assumed that. Your assumption means nothing, because you're wrong.

Haha, I'm not. I'm right, stop being insecure. It does SUGGEST that, I'm not saying it's what you meant. I'm saying it suggests that, which it does.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Pop goes the AC.

Definition of Hard: ""difficult to deal with, manage, control, overcome, or understand: a hard problem."

Definition of Difficult: "a trouble or struggle."

If something is difficult, it is hard. If something is hard, it is difficult. If something is difficult, it is not easy or moderate. If something is easy or moderate, it is not difficult.

Oh, so close! So close! The difference is, you defined the word "Hard", not the phrase "Trying hard.". It doesn't mean "Trying difficult.", does it? To imply someone is trying hard is to imply they are putting in a lot of effort, not that the general crux of the matter is difficult. You are putting a lot of effort into something that is easy. People try hard at their jobs, even if they're good at them and find them easy. So you see, in your quest to be seen as smart because you post definitions, you've failed to see that you defined the word, not the phrase. So close, though.

Whether choosing "Perpetually" over "Continually" is difficult or not, that's not what I was saying. I'm saying you make the conscious choice to use one word based on how it LOOKS, despite it not adding anything, so in that sense you are trying hard. It doesn't imply difficulty.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
How is that trying to look smart? See, If that was the case, I would have said:

"I use X over Y because it looks smarter."

Instead, I said:

"I use X over Y because it looks better."

Yes, "Better". How does it look better? You tell me why you feel that word looks better. I'm genuinely curious, not trying to be funny.

Why does "Perpetually" look better?

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
To be honest, I would've thought you would not have found it difficult to distinguish the two.

If you can give me a reasonable explanation as to why you choose one over the other, why one word is "better" despite them meaning the same thing, then I will stop assuming you do so to look smart. Right now, that's how it looks to me.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I think perpetual is simply a BETTER word to use. I don't like continuously. There's nothing much else to it, like you're trying to generate.

Why is it a better word to use, though? They mean the same thing. Most people say continually, so you say perpetually, is that why? I'm asking you a question civilly.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Hahaha, I haven't been playing that game with you because so far I have not tried.

I couldn't really tell the difference between you trying and not trying. You never seem to do well.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Wow, I shouldn't even have to point out the logical fallacy there. Hahaha.

What? Posting in the OTF doesn't make you an OTFer. You are never seen outside of this forum.

-AC

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I went to dictionary dot com and Wikipedia.
Well, they both suck anyway. Use Merriam-Webster. Or Oxford. Both are free.

Vanity: an often unjustified feeling of being pleased with oneself or with one's situation or achievements

Smugness: an often unjustified feeling of being pleased with oneself or with one's situation or achievements

Funny....when I type them both into MW, I get the exact same definition. Fancy that 313

That was the Thesaurus, by the way, not the dictionary. So don't try and hound me on that ermm

Originally posted by allfg
Oh my days, please go and debate in the SWVF, we haven't had a Sorgo there for a while now.

Anyways, here's how your logic fails:

This would only be correct if a form of difficulty made 'trying hard' a necessity. You can still try hard even when you don't have too. It seems you don't really understand the meaning of the phrase.

You joined Jan 2007. Sorgo was banned May 2006. You're a sock. You indicated you knew Sorgo and knew where he hung out.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Well, they both suck anyway. Use Merriam-Webster. Or Oxford. Both are free.

Vanity: an often unjustified feeling of being pleased with oneself or with one's situation or achievements

Smugness: an often unjustified feeling of being pleased with oneself or with one's situation or achievements

Funny....when I type them both into MW, I get the exact same definition. Fancy that 313

That was the Thesaurus, by the way, not the dictionary. So don't try and hound me on that ermm

It's one source out of ... Well ... How many that show them as different?

Hell, I can't find any source that even places them as synonyms for each other.

Haha, I'm not. I'm right, stop being insecure. It does SUGGEST that, I'm not saying it's what you meant. I'm saying it suggests that, which it does.

You're not right. You need to get that.

When I say "Perpetual" instead of "Continuously", I'm not trying hard. It's simple.

Oh, so close! So close! The difference is, you defined the word "Hard", not the phrase "Trying hard.". It doesn't mean "Trying difficult.", does it? To imply someone is trying hard is to imply they are putting in a lot of effort, not that the general crux of the matter is difficult. You are putting a lot of effort into something that is easy. People try hard at their jobs, even if they're good at them and find them easy. So you see, in your quest to be seen as smart because you post definitions, you've failed to see that you defined the word, not the phrase. So close, though.

I don't have a quest to seem smart. You know, I've learned in life that people generally adapt and make conclusions to other peoples actions based on personal experience. Actually, It's scientifically proven that the human brain works that way.

You know what this means, right?

Whether choosing "Perpetually" over "Continually" is difficult or not, that's not what I was saying. I'm saying you make the conscious choice to use one word based on how it LOOKS, despite it not adding anything, so in that sense you are trying hard. It doesn't imply difficulty.

No, it's not trying hard. When you can type as quick as I can and make a subconscious decision of wording, it's not trying hard. Not at all. I don't look at my sentences and just pick it over that word. It's protocol for me now to use that word instead of the other, so barely any effort is applied.

Yes, "Better". How does it look better? You tell me why you feel that word looks better. I'm genuinely curious, not trying to be funny.

I understand. It's just my personal opinion that it looks better than "Continuously".

Why does "Perpetually" look better?

I just think it does. Personal opinion, that's all.

If you can give me a reasonable explanation as to why you choose one over the other, why one word is "better" despite them meaning the same thing, then I will stop assuming you do so to look smart. Right now, that's how it looks to me.

I answered below.

Why is it a better word to use, though? They mean the same thing. Most people say continually, so you say perpetually, is that why? I'm asking you a question civilly.

No, I don't purposely say "Perpetually" to avoid the majority. I don't know, I just prefer it. I guess I heard it a lot more than "Continuously" growing up. I just prefer it, and it's not an indication of trying hard. Not even close. By that logic, I can apply that for any word used in replacement, which is most words ... Depending on what you have to say, of course.

I couldn't really tell the difference between you trying and not trying. You never seem to do well.

You usually don't tell the difference.

What? Posting in the OTF doesn't make you an OTFer. You are never seen outside of this forum.

-AC

Yet another indication you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I'll list the forums I've posted in since I've been here:

GDF
Religion Forum
Star Wars Versus
Comic Versus
Movie Discussion
Music Forum

The MAJORITY of my posting happens here, but I've been outside. Sorry.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
It's one source out of ... Well ... How many that show them as different?

Hell, I can't find any source that even places them as synonyms for each other.

well when you use shitty websites, that can happen. Any educated person will tell you (you being one yourself) that smugness and vanity are related terms, if not direct synonyms. You don't need to consult a thesaurus to know that.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
You're not right. You need to get that.

When I say "Perpetual" instead of "Continuously", I'm not trying hard. It's simple.

It seems like you are, because this doesn't add up. So we'll see how you answered my questions.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I don't have a quest to seem smart. You know, I've learned in life that people generally adapt and make conclusions to other peoples actions based on personal experience. Actually, It's scientifically proven that the human brain works that way.

You know what this means, right?

Nice how you dodged everything that the above quote replied to, because you know how blatantly you misunderstood. You got confused between the word and the phrase.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
No, it's not trying hard. When you can type as quick as I can and make a subconscious decision of wording, it's not trying hard. Not at all. I don't look at my sentences and just pick it over that word. It's protocol for me now to use that word instead of the other, so barely any effort is applied.

Subconscious decision? You specifically told me you CHOOSE one word over the other because it looks better, so it's not subconscious, it's very much a conscious choice.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I understand. It's just my personal opinion that it looks better than "Continuously".

Yeah, so tell me why. You're not making any sense. This is precisely why I feel you do it to look smart, because "Continuously" is a more common word than "Perpetually", in the situations you use it. So why do you do so? Looks just don't cut it. They make no sense.

If that truly is why, looks, then fine. Just accept it makes no sense and is kind of pointless.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I just think it does. Personal opinion, that's all.

Why though? There must be a reason. You don't say "I think that woman is better looking." without a reason do you? There's always a reason, otherwise you wouldn't be making the distinction of "better". For something to be better, there must be qualities contained therein that puts it above other choices. "Perpetually" does this for you, I'm asking why, and you cannot tell me.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
No, I don't purposely say "Perpetually" to avoid the majority. I don't know, I just prefer it. I guess I heard it a lot more than "Continuously" growing up. I just prefer it, and it's not an indication of trying hard. Not even close. By that logic, I can apply that for any word used in replacement, which is most words ... Depending on what you have to say, of course.

As above, then. Simple question.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
You usually don't tell the difference.

I do. You're not doing too well now.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Yet another indication you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I'll list the forums I've posted in since I've been here:

GDF
Religion Forum
Star Wars Versus
Comic Versus
Movie Discussion
Music Forum

The MAJORITY of my posting happens here, but I've been outside. Sorry.

Did you or did you not tell me personally that almost, if not all your debating, happens here?

-AC

this is the OTF, no room for debate here.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Subconscious decision? You specifically told me you CHOOSE one word over the other because it looks better, so it's not subconscious, it's very much a conscious choice.
-AC

'Choosing' one doesn't have to be a conscious act. For example, I automatically type 'awkward' instead of 'uncomfortable' because for some stupid reason it looks better. It just comes to mind, is all, it doesn't have to take up serious brainpower.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, so tell me why. You're not making any sense. This is precisely why I feel you do it to look smart, because "Continuously" is a more common word than "Perpetually", in the situations you use it.

You're asking him to tell you why "perpetually" looks better than continuously? Come on, that's a bit of a weird question. Just because it's uncommonly used doesn't mean that every time someone uses it that they're trying to sound smart, does it?

Maybe because it starts with an P?
Maybe because it sounds funnier when you attempt to pronounce it right when drunk?
Maybe because it appears to have considerably less letters?
Maybe because it rolls over the tongue smoother?

We don't know. Lots of stupid little reasons, not all of which the conscious mind is actively aware of. Let's leave it that.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why though? There must be a reason. You don't say "I think that woman is better looking." without a reason do you?

Choosing a word because it looks better is different, very different from choosing a woman because she looks better. There could be loads of "I-dunno-why" reasons for a word choice. I don't get how you didn't accuse me of trying to sound smart for my word choices and then do it to Seraph.

Yes, there are reasons to poke Seraph. Word choicing, though, come on.

Originally posted by Strangelove
well when you use shitty websites, that can happen. Any educated person will tell you (you being one yourself) that smugness and vanity are related terms, if not direct synonyms. You don't need to consult a thesaurus to know that.

So, all the numerous websites I visited were all shitty compared to ONE you had? Go google each word or visit another dictionary/thesaurus you like and see.

It seems like you are, because this doesn't add up. So we'll see how you answered my questions.

You amuse me. It's why I love debating with you.

Nice how you dodged everything that the above quote replied to, because you know how blatantly you misunderstood. You got confused between the word and the phrase.

Hahaha, how painfully predictable. You've done it twice now. Instead of ignoring my previous post, read it carefully. I could apply it to what you just said.

You don't get it, do you?

Here, I'll explain it as we move on.

Subconscious decision? You specifically told me you CHOOSE one word over the other because it looks better, so it's not subconscious, it's very much a conscious choice.

Your point? If I CHOOSE to eat vegetables instead of meat and I've been doing it for a while, It doesn't become hard to choose veggies. It becomes PROTOCOL. Just because I choose X over Y doesn't mean it's a concious decision. I've adapted to doing it because I do this all the time. It's now effortless for me.

THIS IS an INDICATION I'm not TRYING HARD.

I pray I do not have to break this down further.

Yeah, so tell me why. You're not making any sense. This is precisely why I feel you do it to look smart, because "Continuously" is a more common word than "Perpetually", in the situations you use it. So why do you do so? Looks just don't cut it. They make no sense.

Honestly, I could care a less what you feel about an action I perform. I prefer that word over the other. What, do you expect me to jump the proverbial bandwagon or something?

Seriously, how is it even that relevant? You assumed I did it to look smart. You're wrong. I really don't, I just do like the other word better.

How hard it is to grasp, AC?

If that truly is why, looks, then fine. Just accept it makes no sense and is kind of pointless.

No, f*ck that. It isn't pointless.

Just like one man may prefer a blue car over a red car, I prefer one word over the other. There is nothing pointless to it.

Why though? There must be a reason. You don't say "I think that woman is better looking." without a reason do you? There's always a reason, otherwise you wouldn't be making the distinction of "better". For something to be better, there must be qualities contained therein that puts it above other choices. "Perpetually" does this for you, I'm asking why, and you cannot tell me.

I just think it looks better. I've heard it as a more common word than "Continuously" throughout my life. Vice versa for you, AC.

As above, then. Simple question.

Okay then. Moving on.

I do. You're not doing too well now.

No, that would be you. I'm not the one trying to come to a conclusion to something that doesn't exist. Stop saying you're right too, because you're not. I'm telling you I don't do it to look smart, so that's how it is. I use the word commonly because I find that it looks better. They mean the same thing, so why should it be such an enlarged issue?

Did you or did you not tell me personally that almost, if not all your debating, happens here?

-AC

What does that have to do with what you said, AC? You said I've never been seen outside of the OTF. This has nothing to do with debating.

I said I spend a MAJORITY of my posting time here, but I have been outside.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
this is the OTF, no room for debate here.

Actually, there's an abundance of room for debate here. Look around you.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
So, all the numerous websites I visited were all shitty compared to ONE you had? Go google each word or visit another dictionary/thesaurus you like and see.
How many sources besides Dictionary.com and Wiktionary did you use? Because both of those are unequivocally shitty

Originally posted by Strangelove
How many sources besides Dictionary.com and Wiktionary did you use? Because both of those are unequivocally shitty

How so, do they have false definitions every 1/10 words or something?

Originally posted by Strangelove
How many sources besides Dictionary.com and Wiktionary did you use? Because both of those are unequivocally shitty

Hahaha, prove it. Your bias is relentless in this scenario, Strangelove. Your site tops all, then?

Merriam Webster, you went to?

VANITY
"1 : something that is vain, empty, or valueless
2 : the quality or fact of being vain
3 : inflated pride in oneself or one's appearance : CONCEIT
4 : a fashionable trifle or knickknack"

SMUGNESS
"1 : trim or smart in dress : SPRUCE
2 : scrupulously clean, neat, or correct : TIDY
3 : highly self-satisfied"

Ugh, one of these arguments again.

The two are similar, but they definitely do not go hand in hand. Bottom line.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Actually, there's an abundance of room for debate here. Look around you.

i agree, but its a bit more relaxed here than the GDF.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
The two are similar, but they definitely do not go hand in hand. Bottom line.
I never said that the two went hand in hand. I said, like you just admitted, that the two were similar.