Vinny may not be Gaytascular.....

My class is actually more concerned with proving statements and calculating truth values than the fundamentals of logic. So I apologize if my knowledge of 'logical fallacies is not as advanced as you'd like.

A shame. The fundamentals of logic are easy to learn. Took me no more than a few weeks of study. You should learn them. I'm being completely serious here. It's interesting to know.

From this standpoint, it seems a lot like arguments I've had with you. There have been at least a couple where I had the thought "WTF? I never said that!"

I've had that experience with you as well. All too many times. Shall we move on?

In it's basest form, yes. The strawman logical fallacy is basically putting words in your opponent's mouth.

Basically, but not essentially. In order to directly commit a strawman, you must effectively change or distort the topic to something irrelevant. Perhaps similar to a previous debate?

quote:
That's a lie. Bring up one instance where I have walked away from a discussion.

Your first thread. You, me, and Puzzle were discussing the motto of Las Vegas, in which you were categorically wrong. And Puzzle lives there for Christ's sake. I do not recall you apologizing or admitting wrongdoing. You just disappeared.

Yeah, I was wrong.

When you and Puzzle had the argument about username changes. While you were technically correct about having less usernames than Puzzle, it was a useless point to make without considering time. When it was clear you weren't going to win, you disappeared.

I had already one. The point was I had less usernames. I did at that time and point. He was balancing semantics and so was I for a while.

You still have not explained how "Read my edit, I clear it up a little" is grammatically incorrect. And since your mastery of the English language is fairly limited, I doubt you even know what you're talking about.

"Read my edit, I cleared it up a little."

😐

I admit I'm wrong every time that I genuinely realize it.

That's great, but I never you said you DIDN'T admit you were wrong.

I'll repeat. The fact that you did not understand it was a joke does not change the fact that it was indeed a joke.

Ugh, more excuses. Don't you get it?

Okay, explain throughouly how that is a joke. I'm awaiting.

There isn't much to understand. It wasn't a joke. A sloppy cover up, at the least.

I know Casey fairly well on these forums. He's a playful son of a gun. So therefore, I knew it was a joke. The fact that you did not is again, no one's fault but yours

More bullshit. Hahaha.

Pittman can be serious and forward when he wants to. He doesn't like me. He tried. He failed. He excused. He lost again. Simple.

I have taken debate classes and have studied logic as well and know that it is nearly impossible to debate someone without using at least one or more of them. The point is that is was a joke meant to poke fun at you, does it mean that it was a good joke or that you found it funny doesn’t matter the intent was still there.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
No, that's because I don't lie. You won't ever see me lie. I cannot trust Pittman. Why? Because his post clearly was not a joke. He tried to catch me in the wrong, and he knew he failed so he's attempting to cover it up. That's just obvious. The circumstances are different because the previous situation was more subjective to possibilities. This one? Not so much.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Pittman can be serious and forward when he wants to. He doesn't like me. He tried. He failed. He excused. He lost again. Simple.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Wow, you just called yourself mature a few posts ago.

Another breech in trust. Dissapointing.

Edit: How can you say that you have “won” any of these debates? Who is judging them and keeping score? As far as I have read you are the only one that says that it wasn’t a joke so if you go by that I have won this one. 😉

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
A shame. The fundamentals of logic are easy to learn. Took me no more than a few weeks of study. You should learn them. I'm being completely serious here. It's interesting to know.

I had already won. The point was I had less usernames. I did at that time and point. He was balancing semantics and so was I for a while.

"Read my edit, I cleared it up a little."

😐

That's great, but I never you said you DIDN'T admit you were wrong.

Ugh, more excuses. Don't you get it?

Okay, explain thoroughly how that is a joke. I'm waiting.

More bullshit. Hahaha.

Pittman can be serious and forward when he wants to. He doesn't like me. He tried. He failed. He excused. He lost again. Simple.

And saying that someone fails or loses according to your skewed standards does not make it true.

Seraph, try applying this tireless method of debating to other forums. It SEEMS you value "winning" in debates that are focused on subjective "Yes, you are"/"No, I'm not" arguments. This can literally go nowhere, as you're telling him he meant things, he's denying it, you insist.

I wonder how you fare in debates where objective proof is needed. Well, I know how you do in those kind of debates, I suppose.

-AC

I have taken debate classes and have studied logic as well and know that it is nearly impossible to debate someone without using at least one or more of them. The point is that is was a joke meant to poke fun at you, does it mean that it was a good joke or that you found it funny doesn’t matter the intent was still there.

To be honest, nothing really showed it was a joke. Not even the emoticon. The post was basically you trying to compare two different animals and effectively catch me in some sort of incorrectness. You did not accomplish that, but instead ended up failing yourself by comparing the wrong animals.

Now what was that comment about that you don’t like, but you won’t see you lie, hypocrite.

What? Explain an instance in which I've effectively LIED. I'm really waiting.

And I don't quite understand your post.

Now who is putting words into other peoples mouths, I don’t know you enough to not like you. Are you frustrating and annoying, yes but that doesn’t mean that I don’t like you hell some of my friends are the same way.

You pass off that you didn't like me when you slung titles my way like a Navy Commander. Immature, annoying ... Doesn't sound like you like me all that much. I didn't put words in your mouth because I didn't say "He SAID he doesn't like me."

Good though.

Just because I use “internet slang” doesn’t mean that it is a sign of immaturity, you use it as well as well as posting smiley icons which you have already said don’t belong in a debate.

Irrelevant. So, If I jump off of a bridge, you going to follow? It doesn't prove your mature just because "I do it too".

Wow, and again.

Edit: How can you say that you have “won” any of these debates? Who is judging them and keeping score? As far as I have read you are the only one that says that it wasn’t a joke so if you go by that I have won this one. wink

Appealing to a majority, Logical Fallacy.

Basically, it doesn't show that you've taken classes at all at either Logic or debating.

I'm sure I will some day, I like the subject too

It's a good subject. Logic is quite interesting.

I think you were trying to say won instead of one, but the point is this: While you were technically correct that you have less usernames than Puzzle, you chose to ignore the glaring fact that Ken has been here for 5 years while you have been here for a handful of months. That is a crucial factor in the argument, which you chose to ignore. Will you have the same username if you're still here 5 years from now? Or even 1? I doubt it.

It wasn't a crucial factor at all. He was complaining about my number of usernames. HE HAD NO RIGHT TO considering he had more. It's really not hard to comprehend.

I meant to use the present tense. There is no grammatical error.

Yet, the edit happened in the PAST. You should have been speaking in the past tense, not the present tense.

And again. 😐

The way you said "someone has to admit they're wrong around here" insinuated something different

Don't make assumptions. I wasn't even referring to you. I was speaking generally.

Fixed your errors.

Fixing errors = Last resorting.

I love watching a man back down in a corner.

You completely avoided my question.

Still waiting.

(I won't spend time fixing yours. I prefer to "Look & Laugh"😉

You cannot categorically say that what he said was not a joke. You are not a mind reader. Pittman said it was a joke. I trust his judgment over something he said over your biased opinion. If if he was telling you that a joke you told was not a joke, I would say the same thing to him.

My biased opinion? Explain how my opinion is biased, Strangelove. I'm dying to hear this. His post clearly was not a joke, but a way to catch me in the wrong. His attempt was nothing but utter failure so he walked. It's easy. Really, his joke just reeks of a very shoddy cover up.

And saying that someone fails or loses according to your skewed standards does not make it true.

So, It's true to your standards or others only?

Oh, um, wait ... I'm biased right?

Hahaha.

Tsk tsk.

Much to learn.

-AC

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
It wasn't a crucial factor at all. He was complaining about my number of usernames. HE HAD NO RIGHT TO considering he had more. It's really not hard to comprehend.

Yet, the edit happened in the PAST. You should have been speaking in the past tense, not the present tense.

And again. 😐

Fixing errors = Last resorting.

I love watching a man back down in a corner.

You completely avoided my question.

Still waiting.

(I won't spend time fixing yours. I prefer to "Look & Laugh"😉

My errors are few and far between and are usually the effect of typing fast. Again, coming from you, that comment was hilarious.😆

My biased opinion? Explain how my opinion is biased, Strangelove. I'm dying to hear this. His post clearly was not a joke, but a way to catch me in the wrong. His attempt was nothing but utter failure so he walked. It's easy. Really, his joke just reeks of a very shoddy cover up.

So, It's true to your standards or others only?

Oh, um, wait ... I'm biased right?

Hahaha.

And yes, you're horrendously biased.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Tsk tsk.

Much to learn.

-AC

Heh, we all know what we know. In essence, everybody has something to learn. Then again, maybe some have peaked their limit?

you are so wrong it's not even funny anymore

This staggering and elaborate reply just proved me wrong so hard.

Sarcasm is the bomb.

When I wrote that post, the edit was a couple seconds in the past. I was not wrong to use clear instead of cleared. And getting a lecture on the English language from you of all people gets perpetually amusing laughing

Why not? I've seen you perform various errors before when it comes to syntax and diction. The only difference between us is you point it out because (You admitted this yourself) you're a perfectionist and I really couldn't care a less about you.

laughing Most amusing. I didn't feel like answering, so I didn't. I cannot prove what he said was a joke. Nor can you prove that it wasn't.

Exactly! I am just saying nothing in his post indicated he was joking and he seemed like he just wanted to try to prove me wrong. Either way his joke was not funny (IF IT WAS A JOKE) and he failed.

My errors are few and far between and are usually the effect of typing fast. Again, coming from you, that comment was hilarious.laughing

Don't build excuses, Strangelove. I could say the same thing, considering I can peak one hundred and twenty words per minute.

I don't tend to use excuses to cover my ass. It would look embarrassing.

laughing Oh there isn't even any point rebutting this, you're relentless.

Hahaha!

Moving on.

I prefer to use an consensus. If a majority of observers agree on a 'winner' then I generally abide by that opinion. I certainly believe that a participant in said argument is never impartial, especially when they are claiming victory for themselves.

Usually people tend to claim victory for themselves. You've done it before. You're no different and you're essentially a hypocrite. You just openly admitted to having a tendency for committing logical fallacy.

That's so funny.

And yes, you're horrendously biased.

I asked you to back this up before. Stop spewing bullshit. You're good for it.

OK, here it is again.

You have claimed that my post was not posted with the intent of a joke so the burden of proof is upon you. You are the one that made the claim so you must disprove this and how have you tried to do this?

Attack my character, calling me immature, a liar, not trustworthy. (Irrelevant and illogical)

Using your own personal opinion, "I don't see this as a joke" (Irrelevant and illogical)

Using past events (Irrelevant and illogical)

Making false claims (Irrelevant and illogical)

So basically what you have accused everyone else of doing you have done yourself, you have done nothing to prove or dispute what my intentions were. You are not this high and mighty debater and the "KMC's Resident Manipulator" so please get over it. In any debate that I have seen you in be it with me or anyone else, your logic is full of fallacies just as much as anyone else. There is nothing that you can do to disprove my intent of the post; it is your own personally opinion and judgment, period.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
What? Explain an instance in which I've effectively LIED. I'm really waiting.

And I don't quite understand your post.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
No, that's because I don't lie. You won't ever see me lie. I cannot trust Pittman. Why? Because his post clearly was not a joke. He tried to catch me in the wrong, and he knew he failed so he's attempting to cover it up. That's just obvious. The circumstances are different because the previous situation was more subjective to possibilities. This one? Not so much.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I didn't say I've never lied, I said you won't SEE me lie.

"I'm Pittman, I make false statements and put words in peoples mouth. When I make mistakes, I can't man up to them so I lie! Weeeeeee!"

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Heh, we all know what we know. In essence, everybody has something to learn. Then again, maybe some have peaked their limit?

This staggering and elaborate reply just proved me wrong so hard.

Sarcasm is the bomb.

Why not? I've seen you perform various errors before when it comes to syntax and diction. The only difference between us is you point it out because (You admitted this yourself) you're a perfectionist and I really couldn't care a less about you.

Exactly! I am just saying nothing in his post indicated he was joking and he seemed like he just wanted to try to prove me wrong. Either way his joke was not funny (IF IT WAS A JOKE) and he failed.

Don't build excuses, Strangelove. I could say the same thing, considering I can peak one hundred and twenty words per minute.

I don't tend to use excuses to cover my ass. It would look embarrassing.

Hahaha!

Moving on.

Usually people tend to claim victory for themselves. You've done it before. You're no different and you're essentially a hypocrite. You just openly admitted to having a tendency for committing logical fallacy.

That's so funny.

I asked you to back this up before. Stop spewing bullshit. You're good for it.

OK, here it is again.

You have claimed that my post was not posted with the intent of a joke so the burden of proof is upon you. You are the one that made the claim so you must disprove this and how have you tried to do this?

I've explained that I cannot find definite proof for this, but have rather told you that nothing in your post indicated it was a joke. The smiley did not indicate this, nor did what you state indicate this.

Your post was attempting to explain that my comparison was incorrect.

How was it that you were joking?

I've asked you SO many times and you know what you've done? Avoided my questions. You've called me immature and you've basically just used half-assed rhetoric to throw the debate into a box.

WILL. NOT. HAPPEN.

Stop pointing out what you think I am. You never fail to call me a hypocrite despite being one yourself.

Attack my character, calling me immature, a liar, not trustworthy. (Irrelevant and illogical)

Hypocrisy and irrelevant within itself (Added Irony!)

You called me immature first, did you not? Shall we review this?

Originally posted by ThePittman
I'm more mature and more of a man then you will ever be

Using your own personal opinion, "I don't see this as a joke" (Irrelevant and illogical)

Using an opinion is irrelevant and illogical? An engine is to a car as an opinion is to a debate, Pittman. It was not apparent to me that you were joking. It is my opinion you were not. That builds an opposing factor. Completely relevant.

I love how you vaguely label what I say off and then just move on like you're systematically breaking me down in some way.

Hardly, Pittman.

Using past events (Irrelevant and illogical)

Whoa, who used past events again, my friendly neighbourhood hypocrite?

Originally posted by ThePittman
However that doesn't surprise me at all because in the last one you kept getting me confused with someone else trying to say I did this when it was clearly never me and you just skated over the topic because you knew you were wrong and didn't admit it. You simply tried to cover it up with your usual BS.

Originally posted by ThePittman
You kept confusing me with Strangelove in your previous debate over PM and I hade to keep pointing out to you that I never said it but Strangelove did.

You do all the work for me, Pittman.

Making false claims (Irrelevant and illogical)

I made a claim that is potentially not false. That's not irrelevant and it's EXTREMELY logical considering your post. I'm going to do this one more time.

So basically what you have accused everyone else of doing you have done yourself,

Hahaha, read above.

you have done nothing to prove or dispute what my intentions were.

This is "Logic according to Logic" not "Logic according to Pittman".

You presented a claim. I refuted it. You dismissed it as a joke. I asked you to prove it was a joke.

I don't contain the burden, Pittman ...

YOU DO.

You are not this high and mighty debater and the "KMC's Resident Manipulator" so please get over it.

I never said or thought I was some high and mighty debater. I don't know where you get these ideas from.

I can be more manipulative than you'll ever know, Pittman. If you didn't know, the whole purpose of manipulation is to make the subject at hand not aware of the manipulation itself.

In any debate that I have seen you in be it with me or anyone else, your logic is full of fallacies just as much as anyone else. There is nothing that you can do to disprove my intent of the post; it is your own personally opinion and judgment, period.

OK about this, what part do you miss? You said that you don't lie in one post and that you won't see you lie in the same post. That is a contradiction, plain and simple then you post that you never said that you don't lie but that you will never see you lie and I posted where you did, again a fallacy and making false statement or half truths.

I don't lie. Ergo, you won't see me lie.

Simple concept. It's not that hard to understand ... For some people.

From those two posts you quoted, Pittman.

You won't ever see me lie.

I said you won't SEE me lie.

And you tried so hard.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I've explained that I cannot find definite proof for this, but have rather told you that nothing in your post indicated it was a joke. The smiley did not indicate this, nor did what you state indicate this.
Your post was attempting to explain that my comparison was incorrect.
How was it that you were joking?
I've asked you SO many times and you know what you've done? Avoided my questions. You've called me immature and you've basically just used half-assed rhetoric to throw the debate into a box.
WILL. NOT. HAPPEN.
Stop pointing out what you think I am. You never fail to call me a hypocrite despite being one yourself.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Hypocrisy and irrelevant within itself (Added Irony!)
You called me immature first, did you not? Shall we review this?

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Using an opinion is irrelevant and illogical? An engine is to a car as an opinion is to a debate, Pittman. It was not apparent to me that you were joking. It is my opinion you were not. That builds an opposing factor. Completely relevant.
I love how you vaguely label what I say off and then just move on like you're systematically breaking me down in some way.
Hardly, Pittman.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Whoa, who used past events again, my friendly neighbourhood hypocrite?
You do all the work for me, Pittman.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I made a claim that is potentially not false. That's not irrelevant and it's EXTREMELY logical considering your post. I'm going to do this one more time.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Hahaha, read above.
This is "Logic according to Logic" not "Logic according to Pittman".
You presented a claim. I refuted it. You dismissed it as a joke. I asked you to prove it was a joke.
I don't contain the burden, Pittman ...
[B]YOU DO.
[/B]

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I never said or thought I was some high and mighty debater. I don't know where you get these ideas from.
I can be more manipulative than you'll ever know, Pittman. If you didn't know, the whole purpose of manipulation is to make the subject at hand not aware of the manipulation itself.
In any debate that I have seen you in be it with me or anyone else, your logic is full of fallacies just as much as anyone else. There is nothing that you can do to disprove my intent of the post; it is your own personally opinion and judgment, period.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
I don't lie. Ergo, you won't see me lie.
Simple concept. It's not that hard to understand ... For some people.
From those two posts you quoted, Pittman.
And you tried so hard.

You won't ever see me lie, because I'm to damn good at it.
You won't ever see me lie, because I have never told a lie in my life.
You won't ever see me lie, because you are blind.
You won't ever see me lie, because you are to dumb.

[joke]
Hard = Difficult
Seraphim XIII = Difficult
so
Hard Headed = Seraphim XIII
[/joke]

*it is a joke*

or is itpitt_shifty

Originally posted by ThePittman
Just because you "can't find proof" doesn't mean that it is not true. It was posted as a joke and a slap in the face, you didn't fine it funny and you are the only one that didn't see it. I'm not the only one calling you a hypocrite am I?

Appealing to a majority, Logical fallacy.

Moving on.

Actually you told me that I should "man up", so in other words grow up and I responded to that.

Misinterpretation.

I meant "Man up" as in provide proof. Wrong usage of words. I should have said "Step up".

Yes using your opinion in a debate is illogical and is a fallacy, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen but it doesn't refute the fact that it is a fallacy to a logical debate.

I'll just repeat what you said so others can laugh at it further:

Yes using your opinion in a debate is illogical and is a fallacy

And again, I never claimed that I was, never claimed that my arguments weren't without fallacies. I'm pointing out that you do as well and that you are not being logical in your statements as everyone else is.

Yes using your opinion in a debate is illogical and is a fallacy

😬

That is a Half Truth, you have noting to back that up or any proof of it so that is also illogical and irrelevant. I could say that you are a typing monkey, it could be true.

It could be. That's the whole point of a debate and questioning someone's integrity. The fact is, your post had no evidence that it was a joke. The one post above me looks like a joke, but it looks DIFFERENT than this:

Originally posted by ThePittman
Hard = Difficult
so
Rock = Difficult
hum

^ You cannot accept your mistake, so you tried to pass it off as a joke AFTER I ran your claim straight into the ground.

For one, how do you "prove" that it was a joke? Yes the burden of proof is upon you to prove that it wasn't.

No, because both sides are open for subjectivety and I presented the request first, I obtain the negatory. It's your job to prove it was a joke. Not me to prove it WASN'T.

Talking out your own butt again? You use and many fallacies and illogical statements as anyone else here so give it a break.

Irrelevant semantics, per usual.

That phrase isn't a defining one and can be interpreted many different ways.

You won't ever see me lie, because I'm to damn good at it.
You won't ever see me lie, because I have never told a lie in my life.
You won't ever see me lie, because you are blind.
You won't ever see me lie, because you are to dumb.

I thought I made myself clear when I posted the second time with this and you STILL misinterpreted:

I said you won't SEE me lie.

Bye.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
Appealing to a majority, Logical fallacy.

Moving on.

Misinterpretation.

I meant "Man up" as in provide proof. Wrong usage of words. I should have said "Step up".

I'll just repeat what you said so others can laugh at it further:

😬

It could be. That's the whole point of a debate and questioning someone's integrity. The fact is, your post had no evidence that it was a joke. The one post above me looks like a joke, but it looks DIFFERENT than this:

^ You cannot accept your mistake, so you tried to pass it off as a joke AFTER I ran your claim straight into the ground.

No, because both sides are open for subjectivety and I presented the request first, I obtain the negatory. It's your job to prove it was a joke. Not me to prove it WASN'T.

Irrelevant semantics, per usual.

I thought I made myself clear when I posted the second time with this and you STILL misinterpreted:

Bye.

Using your opinion without any proof to back up your statement is a fallacy, you opinion of me that I’m a liar is your own personal opinion. That it was not posted as a joke is also your own personal opinion, you only claim that it is not is that your opinion is I lied and tried to “cover up my mistake”.

The term “you will never see me lie” can be interpreted many different ways as I have posted, just as with the argument that it wasn’t a joke. By your logic you must now “prove” that it wasn’t.

As for you claim that the burden of “proof” is upon me is still invalid. There is no other proof than my statement that it was intended as a joke, the only way to disprove this is either by majority opinion such as a jury that believes my intentions were different or to prove that I have lied about it. If you do not take my word for it then you must prove that it wasn’t or show to the majority reasonable reasons why, which you have not. You can also attack my character and show that I’m not trustworthy which would also make my accountability questionable, which you also have not.

Originally posted by ThePittman
[B]Boring, same crap as before. You keep trying to point out that I use fallacies in my argument and I never claimed I wasn’t in fact I have stated that it is almost impossible not to use them and I’m just pointing out that you are using them as well.

If someone repeats thyself, I tend to say the same thing as a rebuttal. I was hoping you could at least figure that much out. Obviously not.

Good for you. You think because you KNOW you use fallacies, this improves your argument or credibility? No, I don't think so.

Using your opinion without any proof to back up your statement is a fallacy, you opinion of me that I’m a liar is your own personal opinion. That it was not posted as a joke is also your own personal opinion, you only claim that it is not is that your opinion is I lied and tried to “cover up my mistake”.

I never said I had proof, damnit. I was USING my opinion. I said it was my personal opinion that you were lying. It's simple. I *STILL* think you're lying. Using your opinion in a debate isn't a fallacy, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAID.

If that's true, then 90% of the debates that take place are fallible.

The term “you will never see me lie” can be interpreted many different ways as I have posted, just as with the argument that it wasn’t a joke. By your logic you must now “prove” that it wasn’t.

Wrong, you hold the burden. I asked you to prove it was a joke. It's not my job to uphold the negative. Learn your stuff.

As for you claim that the burden of “proof” is upon me is still invalid. There is no other proof than my statement that it was intended as a joke, the only way to disprove this is either by majority opinion such as a jury that believes my intentions were different or to prove that I have lied about it. If you do not take my word for it then you must prove that it wasn’t or show to the majority reasonable reasons why, which you have not. You can also attack my character and show that I’m not trustworthy which would also make my accountability questionable, which you also have not.

I never attacked your character. You actually initiated the first attack by virtually calling me immature. You have the burden.

It's like me saying "Well, the sky is rainbow colored" and then you say "Well, can you prove it? I think you're lying" and you saying "LOL, PROVE I WASN'T LYING!"

I asked you to prove it was a joke. You have the burden, my friend. Either deal with that or scurry off.

You're just avoiding me with bad rhetoric. There's no way you can prove it was a joke. Look at the texture of your post, Pittman.

You guys ruined my thread....it was not meant to be taken seriously.....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You guys ruined my thread....it was not meant to be taken seriously.....

I hope you requested closure.

Originally posted by Seraphim XIII
If someone repeats thyself, I tend to say the same thing as a rebuttal. I was hoping you could at least figure that much out. Obviously not.

Good for you. You think because you KNOW you use fallacies, this improves your argument or credibility? No, I don't think so.

I never said I had proof, damnit. I was USING my opinion. I said it was my personal opinion that you were lying. It's simple. I *STILL* think you're lying. Using your opinion in a debate isn't a fallacy, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAID.

If that's true, then 90% of the debates that take place are fallible.

Wrong, you hold the burden. I asked you to prove it was a joke. It's not my job to uphold the negative. Learn your stuff.

I never attacked your character. You actually initiated the first attack by virtually calling me immature. You have the burden.

It's like me saying "Well, the sky is rainbow colored" and then you say "Well, can you prove it? I think you're lying" and you saying "LOL, PROVE I WASN'T LYING!"

I asked you to prove it was a joke. You have the burden, my friend. Either deal with that or scurry off.

You're just avoiding me with bad rhetoric. There's no way you can prove it was a joke. Look at the texture of your post, Pittman.

Originally posted by ThePittman
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