FR isn't it?
and I'm drunk
OH yeah....
Uh...
Don't do drugs, kids.
Phoenix Force ... Dude you're setting up an infinite amount of Phoenixes against a five year old child ...
I didn't see those "infinite amounds of Phoenixes" when the X-Men fought the pure PF and forced it into a portal.
One Phoenix alone would be far more than enough.
Emma was a Phoenix....
Don't think she'll ge tthe job done.
I don't even knwo how Jean would beat ol' Franky.
Pft.
FR is an omega-level mutant just like Jean and Rachel.. And BOTH Jean and Rachel managed to become one with Phoenix...not just avatars.
While a kid and without realizing it, he can make a pocket universe from nothing.
I wan tto see ANY Celestial do that...
The Celestials are elitists and dollars to donuts that if they actually did say Franklin is only Celestial-level (I never saw that scan...only heard it) it could be that elitism weighing down their judgment...
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Pft.FR is an omega-level mutant just like the Phoenix Avatars.
While a kid and without realizing it, he can make a pocket universe from nothing.
I wan tto see ANY Celestial do that...
The Celestials are elitists and dollars to donuts that if they actually did say Franklin is only Celestial-level (I never saw that scan...only heard it) it could be that elitism weighing down their judgment...
Originally posted by Ethereal
Ashema The Listener.
"[b]Sacrificing its own consciousness to preserve a universe, The Celestial Ashema holds a universe within."
Re: Re: The Phoenix Force vs. Franklin Richards
Originally posted by guy222
Good morning. PF is immortal. Frankie Richards is held in esteem by the ommipotent Celestials. Ashema the Listener adores him
Re: Re: Re: The Phoenix Force vs. Franklin Richards
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Thor is immortal as well, that doesnt mean he is unbeatable, and even a Celestial could
[B]kill him.
They gave him immortality, so they can take it away. [/B]
Thor isn't immortal like Herc 🙂 Celestials hurt Thor. Fact. Celestials, as all of us know can never 'die'. Franklin=Celestial. This is a good debate, I won't be apart of. Can the PF stop a Celestial? Well
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Phoenix Force vs. Franklin Richards
- Franklin can warp reality
- Phoenix Force cannot warp reality
(it can do many things energy blasts etc. but it cannot "change the rules" which is what REAL warping's about)
=> FR is like mxy. he wins easily. changes Phoenix into a parrot (a real one with feathers etc.)
PF with utter ease.
One, it can simply turn off Franklin's mutation. Two, it controls all psionic energy that has been, is, and will be. Three, it grants total telekinetic control over all matter at a subatomic level...which means yes, it has matter manipulation abilities. Four, it's shown the power to amputate entire timelines and retcon/erase them from existence, as well as holding the prime 616 multiverse in it's hand and altering events therein. Five, at it's very basest it's capable of destroying entire galaxies at a time.
Franklin is sorely outclassed.
I don’t see how cataloged as Celestial level, makes Franklin so weak in the Cosmic Hierarchy. Celestials power level very among themselves.
However, this match is answered the same way the writers answered X-Man vs. Franklin. Franklin is just a kind, who is not completely aware of what he is doing, and vary little battle experience or maturity to confront said characters in a battlefield. For those reasons, Phoenix wins. Not because of her power set alone.
Peace out - OB’er
