dc power tiers

found this browsing around. not too sure how accuarate, but doesn't seem TOO bad. better than some lists i've seen . . . 😬

Tier 1 - [ 1st Class +Beyond ]:

The Presence/Rama Kushna/Meshta

- Tier 2 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

The Ultimate Darkness/ The Ultimate Light/ The Source/

- Tier 3 - [ 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Lucifer Morningstar / Archangel Michael/ Elaine

- Tier 4 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

Anti-Monitor (full form)/ Ultimator/10th Dimensional Beings/ Hyperman

The Endless Death

The Witching Hour

- Tier 5 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

Spectre (Fully powered) Parallax/ Parallax Entity/ Ion (Original)/ The Anti-Life Entity/ The Ecrus/ Shattered Gods/ The Warlogog/ The A/ Captain Atom (the one that created a universe)/ Kismet (if you want to go by JLA/Avengers)/ Carnivore/ Genesis Box/ Una, the Cosmic Worm of Heaven and Hell/ Maaldor (Universe)

- Tier 6 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

The Endless Destiny/ Dream/ Destruction/ Desire/ Despair/ Dellirium/

Decreator/ Godwave

Hell Lords inside their own realm Neron/ Trigon/ Neron/ Satannish/ Satanus/ Azmodus/ Shaitan/ Eclipso/ Satan/ King of Tears/ Koth Sugoth/

- Tier 7 - [ High Level Metaphysical + Semi-Abstract ]:

Spectre (High powered)/ Eclipso, Wrath of God (High powered)/ Time Trapper/ Infinite Man/ Archangel Gabriel

- Tier 8 - [ "Minor Omnipotent" Level]:

The 5th Dimensional Imps

Known 5th Dimensiona Imps Mr. Mxyzptlk/ Lkz/ Yz/ Bat-Mite/ Qwisp

The Great Tree

- Tier 9 - [ Metaphysical + Semi-Abstract level ]:

Spectre (average)/ The Lurker/ Entropy (Krona)/ The Word/ Imperiex/ Brainiac 13/ Abraxus/ Promethian Giants/ Quantum Mechanics/ Black Racer/ Black Flash/ Kulak/ Mystos/ Shadrack/ Hellion/ Eclipso - Wrath of God (average)/ Spear of Destiny/ Superman Prime

Lords of Order -Lord Kilderkin / -J'akk / -Kismet / -Nabu: Nabu the Wise / -Pantagones / -Shatru/ -St'ann / -Terataya / -Ynar /

Lords of Chaos -Child/ -Gorrum/ -Hytuurnus / -Mordru / -M'Shulla/ -Nabu: Nabu the Wise / -Shivering Jemmy / -T'Charr / -The Weaver / -The Shallow Brigade and the Laughing Dancers / -The five original Lords of Chaos (Appeared in Grant Morrison's and later Ann Nocienti's Kid Eternity series - #:Chaos is viewed as a good force here)/ -Typhon/ -Vandaemon / -Zanadu the Chaos Maker

Stigmonus Monsiur

- Tier 10 - [ Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level ]:

Bedlam/ Thunderbolt (inhibited)

- Tier 11 - [ Older Gods]:

The Old Gods

Arzaz (heroic Old God)/ Balduur (heroic Old God whose atoms formed New Genesis)/ The Dreggs (the undead)/ Lokee (god of evil)/ The Nameless One (evil Old God)/ Wotan (ruler of the Old Gods)/ etc.

S'ivaa the Destroyer and Dark Elements/ Maggedon/ Yuga Khan/ Clockwerx/ King of Tears (Outside it's realm)

- Tier 12 - [ Skyfather level + Upper Class Team Wrecker ]:

Cosmic Skyfathers Darkseid (High showings)/ Highfather Izaya/ Shazam

Guardians of the Universe/ The Controllers/ Zamarons/ Skyfather pantheons (Odin, Zeus, Dove, etc.)/ Ares/ Cosmic Gamblers

Hell Lords outside their own realm Neron/ Trigon/ Neron/ Satannish/ Satanus/ Azmodus/ Shaitan/ Eclipso/ Satan

Wonderland Inhabitants/ Doctor Fate (Fullest)/ Eclipso (depowered)/ Superman One Million/ Tynan ( the balance between Chaos and Order)

The Archangels Gabriel/ Uriel/ Raphael/ Sarauquel/ Raguel

Oblivion/ Sun Eater/ Solaris/ Owners of the Earth/ Millenium Giants/ Trinity Giants (Guardians' god)/ The Elder gods of Shazam (Marzosh, Arel, Ribalvei, Voldar, Elbiam, Lumium)/ The Luck Lords

- Tier 13 - [ Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods + Lower Class Team Wreckers + High End Psionics ]:

Despero/ Darkseid (varies)/ Helspont/ Lord Defile/ Hightower/ Lord Emp/ Doctor Fate (Normal)/ Validus/ Sun-Dipped Superman/ Fernus/ Takion/ Stayne/ Hourman III/ Waverider/ Godfrey Gaius (Actual form)/ Eye of Ekron/ Black Zero/ Swamp Thing (World Elemental)

Parliaments Trees/ Stones/ Water/ Fire/ Air

Elementals Firestorm/ Naiad/ Red Tornado/ Swamp Thing/ Elemental of Stone

Death Gods (Set, Pluto, Hel Half-Rotted, Kali, Hades, Persephone, etc.)/ Validus/ Omnimar Synn/ Overmaster/ the Doctor (any one since each has the powers of all previous Doctors)

- Tier 14 - [ Top Tiers ]:

Superman/ Green Lantern (varies)/ The Flash III/ Zoom II/ Mister Majestic/ Black Adam/ Doomsday/ Sinestro/ Orion/ Cyborg Superman/ Captain Marvel/ Martian Manhunter/ Sentinel/ Triumph/ Mantis/ Brimstone

Earth-Born Angel/ Supergirl/ Comet / Twilight / Blithe

Other Angels

The Seraphim/ The Cherubim

Apollo/ Lightray/ Captain Atom/ Firestorm/ Doctor Polaris/ Bizarro

- Tier 15 - [ 2nd-Tiers ]:

Wonder Woman/ Captain Atom/ Superboy/ Supergirl/ Captain Marvel Jr./ Mary Marvel/ Lobo/ Etrigan/ Power Girl/ The Flash (Barry Allen)/ Kalibak/ Agogg/ Lex Luthor (armored)/ Zatanna/ Zauriel/ Asmodel/ Army of the Pax-Dei Angels

Steel

- Tier 16 - [ 3rd-Tiers ]

Hercules/ Metallo/ The Ray/ Donna Troy/ Madame Xanadu/ Kinetix/ Doctor Light

- Tier 17 - [ Upper Mid Tiers ]

Aquaman/ Vandal Savage/ Blue Devil/ Wonder Girl/ Tempest/ The Flash (Jay Garrick)/ Impulse/Kid Flash/ Hawkman/ Plastic Man/ Elongated Man

- Tier 18 - [ Lower Mid Tiers ]

The Atom/ The Creeper/ Animal Man/ Clayface/ Vixen

- Tier 19 - [ Upper Street Level ]

Batman/ Joker/ Bane/ Deathstroke/ Owlman/ Green Arrow/ Merylyn/ Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)/ Azrael

- Tier 20 - [ Mid Street Level ]

Nightwing/ Deadshot/ Wildcat/ Black Canary/ Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)/ Green Arrow (Connor Hawke)/ Arsenal (Roy Harper)/ Hitman/ Catwoman/ Shado/ Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)/ Richard Dragon/ Lady Shiva

- Tier 21 - [ Lower Street Level ]

Robin/ Huntress/ Speedy (Mia Dearden)/ Arrowette (Cissie King-Jones)/ Penguin/ Harley Quinn

Why does Fernus always get ranked above Jonn when he doesn't have a feat to his name that puts him above Jonn.....

It pisses me off.

Rather funky rankings IMO.

Just at quick glance, Wonder Woman and friggin Zatanna belong in the top tier. Donna Troy in the 2nd tier. Mxy and Bat-Mite should be grouped up there with Ion and Parallax. Not sure why some characters are listed twice but nonetheless it doesn't make sense to divide them into high and low showings.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Why does Fernus always get ranked above Jonn when he doesn't have a feat to his name that puts him above Jonn.....

It pisses me off.

Where did you find this info Leo?

Anyone could probably take exception with many aspects of a list of that size. But it's a lot better than I could do, so I have a hard time justifying too much negativity towards it. You could do a lot worse for DC hierarchy, and it seems logical enough in most parts, even though there's minor problems in many places.

My only problem is that Batman with prep isn't listed in this category:

Tier 1 - [ 1st Class +Beyond ]
durfist

Batman and Joker aren't upper street level. What is it with D.C and Batman? They think he's more than what he is.

Blue Beetle Jamie Reyes' armor was created to battle Green Lanterns so forget about being upper street level.

Originally posted by Badabing
Where did you find this info Leo?

good question . . .

comicvine, maybe . . .? 😕

honestly, researching for the tourney i've been to so many sites i can't keep 'em straight!

i didn't say it was a PERFECT list -- just . . . not a terrible one. 😬

Why are Mxy and Bat-mite so far down?

this list looks real solid only a ninny noodled knit picker will express "negativity"...however there is no f ****ing way that hercules is below superman, wonder woman and the higher ups in the marvel family tree.. especially since said f ****ers got thier strength from him.. also no disrespect to fernus and sun dipped superman but Takion is way above them...

one last thing, there is no f ****ing way that despero is in the same tier as Onimar Syn...THEEEEE F ****ING ONIMAR SYN?!?! LEX LUHTOR HIGHER THAN HERCULES?!?! AND LOBO IS 2ND TIER?!?

Impulse midtier? 😕 ok

Originally posted by leonidas
found this browsing around. not too sure how accuarate, but doesn't seem TOO bad. better than some lists i've seen . . . 😬

I missed out on all the Marvel cosmic geek stuff but I'll have a go at this later. There seems to be a few inaccuracies. 🙂

The first bit involves msotly vertigo characters so Im not too sure.

Originally posted by leonidas

- Tier 4 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

Anti-Monitor (full form)/ Ultimator/10th Dimensional Beings/ Hyperman

The Endless Death

The Witching Hour

Id have all the Endless WAY above Anti Montitor as they are really metaphysical notions that sometimes take physical form. The question is, can u kill a concept ? Decarte and Kahnt would suggest you cant.

Originally posted by leonidas
- Tier 5 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

Spectre (Fully powered) Parallax/ Parallax Entity/ Ion (Original)/ The Anti-Life Entity/ The Ecrus/ Shattered Gods/ The Warlogog/ The A/ Captain Atom (the one that created a universe)/ Kismet (if you want to go by JLA/Avengers)/ Carnivore/ Genesis Box/ Una, the Cosmic Worm of Heaven and Hell/ Maaldor (Universe)

Id have Spectre WAY above this level, as he was abled to stalemate the Anti Monitor and Parallax on his own accord. With the power of God he probably above the Endless. Id put the fully powered Anti monitor in this category as well. Ion and co definitely dont deserve to be at this level. And all the Warlogog is basically the infinity Gaunlet, its limits have yet to really be tested.

Originally posted by leonidas
- Tier 6 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

The Endless Destiny/ Dream/ Destruction/ Desire/ Despair/ Dellirium/

Decreator/ Godwave

Hell Lords inside their own realm Neron/ Trigon/ Neron/ Satannish/ Satanus/ Azmodus/ Shaitan/ Eclipso/ Satan/ King of Tears/ Koth Sugoth/

- Tier 7 - [ High Level Metaphysical + Semi-Abstract ]:

There so much wrong with this i dont want to get started.

Originally posted by leonidas
Spectre (High powered)/ Eclipso, Wrath of God (High powered)/ Time Trapper/ Infinite Man/ Archangel Gabriel

- Tier 8 - [ "Minor Omnipotent" Level]:

The 5th Dimensional Imps

Known 5th Dimensiona Imps Mr. Mxyzptlk/ Lkz/ Yz/ Bat-Mite/ Qwisp

The Great Tree

- Tier 9 - [ Metaphysical + Semi-Abstract level ]:

Spectre (average)/ The Lurker/ Entropy (Krona)/ The Word/ Imperiex/ Brainiac 13/ Abraxus/ Promethian Giants/ Quantum Mechanics/ Black Racer/ Black Flash/ Kulak/ Mystos/ Shadrack/ Hellion/ Eclipso - Wrath of God (average)/ Spear of Destiny/ Superman Prime

Lords of Order -Lord Kilderkin / -J'akk / -Kismet / -Nabu: Nabu the Wise / -Pantagones / -Shatru/ -St'ann / -Terataya / -Ynar /

Lords of Chaos -Child/ -Gorrum/ -Hytuurnus / -Mordru / -M'Shulla/ -Nabu: Nabu the Wise / -Shivering Jemmy / -T'Charr / -The Weaver / -The Shallow Brigade and the Laughing Dancers / -The five original Lords of Chaos (Appeared in Grant Morrison's and later Ann Nocienti's Kid Eternity series - #:Chaos is viewed as a good force here)/ -Typhon/ -Vandaemon / -Zanadu the Chaos Maker

Stigmonus Monsiur

These tow levels need to be mixed about a bit, and some need to be releagted entirely; the Melinium Giants, Mordru, the Black Racer, Time Ttrapper and Eclipso all need to be relegated.
😄

Where the hell is Mageddon on this list? 😕 He should at least be tier 5 or 6.

Seems well thought out, for the most part. Personally, though, I like things simpler, maybe no more than 5 levels.

Originally posted by leonidas
found this browsing around. not too sure how accuarate, but doesn't seem TOO bad. better than some lists i've seen . . . 😬

Tier 1 - [ 1st Class +Beyond ]:

The Presence/Rama Kushna/Meshta

- Tier 2 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

The Ultimate Darkness/ The Ultimate Light/ The Source/

- Tier 3 - [ 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Lucifer Morningstar / Archangel Michael/ Elaine

- Tier 4 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

Anti-Monitor (full form)/ Ultimator/10th Dimensional Beings/ Hyperman

The Endless Death

The Witching Hour

- Tier 5 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

Spectre (Fully powered) Parallax/ Parallax Entity/ Ion (Original)/ The Anti-Life Entity/ The Ecrus/ Shattered Gods/ The Warlogog/ The A/ Captain Atom (the one that created a universe)/ Kismet (if you want to go by JLA/Avengers)/ Carnivore/ Genesis Box/ Una, the Cosmic Worm of Heaven and Hell/ Maaldor (Universe)

It's a good list...of course people will have different views. Mine is just that characters like The Word and Phantom Stranger plus The Wizard Shazam should be somewhere in Tier 5. The Word is almost like The Spectre except we don't see much of him...PS is very underrated and the limits of this powers are still unknown...The Wizard practically is the overlord of Magic.

Overmaster IMO should be in Tier 11.

Originally posted by Validus
Blue Beetle Jamie Reyes' armor was created to battle Green Lanterns so forget about being upper street level.

Who are Rama Kushna and Meshta?