Odin vs Tyrant

Originally posted by Larceny
So you ignore all other feats and focus on a single instance which has been greatly exaggerated?

It just soo happens that this is the most viable feat to compare the two because it is against the exact same person, the only variation being thanos was powered up in his fight with tyrant which is a huge gauge as to how powerful he is in comparison to odin

Originally posted by Larceny
Which means what? Your getting closer and closer to admitting the fights were closer than previously touted.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So if (and I know you'll love this) Hyperion hit Thor twice, and Thor didn't hit him once, that would mean that Hyperion dominated Thor? Ah, kool beens. I might have to apologize to Genis...

And it still did more damage.
How often does he use Gungir? Like... twice?

More blows were dealt in the Odin/Thanos fight. Still a longer fight.

Not sure what relevance this has to this particular discussion, but if Thor never returned an attack to Hyperion after being pummeled by him then wouldn't Hyperion be considered the winner?

Yet offers Odin no advantage other than focusing his attacks.

Um I though 6 blows were dealt each? 😕

Originally posted by lando005
we're focusing on a common point, other than thanos these two have nothing in common and would be left up to feats which odin would win by proxy because he's been around longer and thus has a lot more feats.

It just soo happens that this is the most viable feat to compare the two because it is against the exact same person, the only variation being thanos was powered up in his fight with tyrant which is a huge gauge as to how powerful he is in comparison to odin

It's not about the quantity of feats but the quality, and odin has the higher quality feats. It's that simple. We could debate Thanos/Tyrant, Odin/Tyrant, all day, but when it's all said and done Odin simply has better feats. Which by standard rules means he's the victor.

So forget about the Thanos fights. Lets talk about each characters individual feats.(I'm sure you don't want to do this) 🙂

Originally posted by Larceny
Why do people believe Tyrant to be more powerful than Odin based on a single fight with Galactus in which he was beaten? The same Galactus that has been dealt nearly fatal blows by characters inferior to Tyrant? Hard to understand, especially when Odin's feats are the superior of the two.

Originally posted by lando005
because galactus like hulk varies in power throughout his appearances, we have never seen him at full power but at what could be considered his more normal levels of power odin would not stand a chance. The majority of the time when he is beaten he was already in a weaken state

Name one feat that Galactus achieved at normal power levels that Odin based on previous showings is incapable of duplicating. 🙂

Originally posted by Larceny
Not sure what relevance this has to this particular discussion, but if Thor never returned an attack to Hyperion after being pummeled by him then wouldn't Hyperion be considered the winner?

Yet offers Odin no advantage other than focusing his attacks.

Um I though 6 blows were dealt each? 😕

So Hyperion beat Thor?

Well, it seemed to offer him more powerful blasts... unless Odin was exerting himself more...

In the Tyrant Fight, only 6 blows were dealt total... but in the Odin fight Thanos attacked Odin 4 times, while Odin hit him 5 times. Which using your logic... it was a pretty close fight for Thanos and Odin.

Originally posted by Larceny
It's not about the quantity of feats but the quality, and odin has the higher quality feats. It's that simple. We could debate Thanos/Tyrant, Odin/Tyrant, all day, but when it's all said and done Odin simply has better feats. Which by standard rules means he's the victor.

So forget about the Thanos fights. Lets talk about each characters individual feats.(I'm sure you don't want to do this) 🙂

we are all hung up on the thanos fight because it is a direct comparison and no matter how many feats you have or come up with nothing beats a direct comparison, and for people who like to post in these threads a direct comparison like this is the next best thing to a clean unbias fight. the thanos fight presents the best possible data to make a judgement call on this fight that's just the way it is

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It has to do with the logic you're using.

So Hyperion beat Thor?

Well, it seemed to offer him more powerful blasts... unless Odin was exerting himself more...

In the Tyrant Fight, only 6 blows were dealt total... but in the Odin fight Thanos attacked Odin 4 times, while Odin hit him 5 times. Which using your logic... it was a pretty close fight for Thanos and Odin.

If I recall correctly wasn't Hyperion shrunk?

I see a blast that was ineffective, an attempt at a punch that was deflected, and an attempt encase Odin in a shield. Otherwise Odin was pretty much on the offensive the entire time ending with Thanos struggling to stand.

Originally posted by lando005
se the main flaw in this approach is tyrant has almost no feats, it's like sentry when he started off he had almost no feats under his belt but did that make him weaker than lets say namor? no... in fact that exactly what your trying to do your trying to compare sentry after only being out for about a week against namor.

we are all hung up on the thanos fight because it is a direct comparison and no matter how many feats you have or come up with nothing beats a direct comparison, and for people who like to post in these threads a direct comparison like this is the next best thing to a clean unbias fight. the thanos fight presents the best possible data to make a judgement call on this fight that's just the way it is

Not comparable. Sentry had feats that placed him above Namor. It's not about quantity, but quality. The same can't be said in terms of Tyrant and Odin. odin simply has the better feats, period.

Lets directly compare side effects of battles. Again, I'm sure you wish to avoid this.

Originally posted by Larceny
Not comparable. Sentry had feats that placed him above Namor. It's not about quantity, but quality. The same can't be said in terms of Tyrant and Odin. odin simply has the better feats, period.

Lets directly compare side effects of battles. Again, I'm sure you wish to avoid this.

Originally posted by lando005
why do you wish to avoid going over a fight that directly gauges each of their power?

I've debated it. I se no reason in further debating it so I choose to direct the attention of the thread to "direct comparisons" of each characters feats.

Originally posted by Larceny
I've debated it. I se no reason in further debating it so I choose to direct the attention of the thread to "direct comparisons" of each characters feats.

if you want to compare feats ok odin has moved asgard around a few times what has tyrant done in comparison? oh wait nothing he hasn't been around enough to do anything, guess odin wins by default

great i see what you mean a much better comparison that taking the results of their fight against the same opponent

Originally posted by lando005
you've debated it and arguably lost that bout, i'm still wondering why your stuck on using indirect feats to guess at which one is more powerful. When a much more rational comparison has been placed before you?

if you want to compare feats ok odin has moved asgard around a few times what has tyrant done in comparison? oh wait nothing he hasn't been around enough to do anything, guess odin wins by default

great i see what you mean a much better comparison that taking the results of their fight against the same opponent

Don't flatter yourself. Your tune has switched from the song you were singing in the beginning of the thread.

Because Odin has much more impressive feats than his fights with Thanos. Why would I ignore the rest of his history and focus on a single moment? A better question would be to ask yourself why you choose to focus on a single fight instead of focusing on the entirety of each characters history. Well hold on, I may have the answer to this. Is it because you know that if we open the discussion further and compare feats Tyrant will pale in comparison to Odin? I think thats it.

He's done that and more. Like, um create a Galaxy?

Originally posted by Larceny
Don't flatter yourself. Your tune has switched from the song you were singing in the beginning of the thread.

Because Odin has much more impressive feats than his fights with Thanos. Why would I ignore the rest of his history and focus on a single moment? A better question would be to ask yourself why you choose to focus on a single fight instead of focusing on the entirety of each characters history. Well hold on, I may have the answer to this. Is it because you know that if we open the discussion further and compare feats Tyrant will pale in comparison to Odin? I think thats it.

He's done that and more. Like, um create a Galaxy?

Originally posted by Larceny
He's done that and more. Like, um create a Galaxy?

What did Mr slippyfist say in the Galactus vs Odin...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It was a solar system... and when did it say he created it?

Because, Thor stepped through the waterfall, and somehow ended up bigger than suns. It seemed more like a lesson through the Odin Force than Odin actually creating that shit.

Originally posted by Utrigita
What did Mr slippyfist say in the Galactus vs Odin...

And everything he says became law when? 😕

Great poster, but what he says doesn't equal = etched in stone.

BTW....

They did astonishing similar actually. However other than the Thanos fight Odin simply outshines Tyrant. The destruction of multiple galaxies as a side effect of battle, creating and destroying a solar system, tearing the fabric of the multi-verse and simultaneously fighting on every plain of existence, transferring Asgard from it's time and place in reality while weak, fighting a universal wide battle in moments that was said to ignite sins and destroy planets like as if thy were ant hills, easily defeating an Aspect of himself that was consuming the universe and restored all that was lost, etc. Tyrants feats while comparable don't exactly stack up.

Tyrant wins this. Odin is being severely overrated.

Originally posted by Larceny
And everything he says became law when? 😕

Great poster, but what he says doesn't equal = etched in stone.

No anything he said didn't become law I just couldn't remember the exact line so I quoted him.

And what he said is IMO more likely then Odin creating the Galaxy.