Captain Atom vs. Martian Manhunter

Started by Redatom654 pages

Originally posted by Martian_mind
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Superman blue has energy feats that put Atom to shame,learn what your talking about. [\quote]

Though Superman Blue has impressive feats, I'm quite the superman fan and well aware of he can and can't do. Captain Atom has some feats that to show his superiority over him

His speed doesn't mean shit,tell me,how can he follow someone who is invisible AND faster?

i said he was possibly faster and even if so not by much, Atom's gone pretty darn fast. Invisibility won't win the martian this fight regarless

[quote]What strength feats do you have to support your claim?none,so hush up about strength.

hush up? hush up? that is rather rude isn't it? Check the Dc database. His strength is amped by his sheer will.

So,you ignore the overload?denial doesn't win debates laddy.

aye and you to are in clear denial.

Originally posted by batdude123
And I thought you'd never shut up. 🙁

SO anyone who doesn't agree with you has to shut up? You may want to start your own debate board. You can call it assholesOnly. I'm sure it will be a thrill. My opinion is that Jonn wins. nvrhadaclue knew that Batmite was the one who joker really used in emperor joker when the rest of the board wouldn't believe me. Nvrhadaclue also said vertigo was indeed a multiverse when the rest of the board wouldn't listen. Nvr also reminded the board of Darkseid's true form, world's funnest being cannon and many other things. But what ever. You can continue to be an ******* to anyone who doesn't agree with you and isn't a "popular" poster.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SO anyone who doesn't agree with you has to shut up? You may want to start your own debate board. You can call it assholesOnly. I'm sure it will be a thrill. My opinion is that Jonn wins. nvrhadaclue knew that Batmite was the one who joker really used in emperor joker when the rest of the board wouldn't believe me. Nvrhadaclue also said vertigo was indeed a multiverse when the rest of the board wouldn't listen. Nvr also reminded the board of Darkseid's true form, world's funnest being cannon and many other things. But what ever. You can continue to be an ******* to anyone who doesn't agree with you and isn't a "popular" poster.

it was just a pun, take it easy there...

How come no-one has countered my overload method?

can someone actually show a scan of his ever so awesome mind-resistance?i can show him being overloaded by Tp,I can show you scans where it states how he almost died when he entered the astral plain.

I'd like to here how invisibility and phasing don't win him this fight when they negate any and all advantages Cap has.

And the DC database is a bio,we don't use bios.Show me a strength FEAT from a comic book,and then talk about his superior strength.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
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Superman blue has energy feats that put Atom to shame,learn what your talking about.

His speed doesn't mean shit,tell me,how can he follow someone who is invisible AND faster?

What strength feats do you have to support your claim?none,so hush up about strength.

So,you ignore the overload?denial doesn't win debates laddy.


Actually try the other way around..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989733092/102
Fernus got nothing against this guy..

Atom can see EM spectrum, tracking Martian invisible or not is not a problem..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989721318/87
Shows him amping in there.. His got better feat in amp strength departmen but am to lazy to find it.lol

atom's pretty damn fast too...

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052039wv.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052077tb.jpg

I'm calling it a night for now. Til tomorrow

Originally posted by Redatom65
it was just a pun, take it easy there...

I won't. That shit was said for all times I was actually right and it stuck and it wasn't fair. So please no nvr puns.

Re: Captain Atom vs. Martian Manhunter

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well, with Apocalypse defeated, Martian Mind is bored. And since he keeps starting shit in our mongoose thread, I thought I'd oblige him. He claims MM can beat Captain Atom. Naturally, there is some contention on this issue. So we did what we always do.

We made a vs. thread.

Captain Atom Vs. Martian Manhunter.

NO LIMITS. Which means anything captain can do is legal, and anything J'onn can do is legal. (Which includes becoming Fernus.) Both fighters are at their highest power levels. Captain Atom's armor is not breachable for this fight.

I'm gonna duck into a foxhole for this one.

Guy is taking Capt Atom

Originally posted by Redatom65
atom's pretty damn fast too...

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052039wv.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainatom052077tb.jpg

I'm calling it a night for now. Til tomorrow

Yeah.but Jonns flown faster then an energy blast from Maggedon and Fought the Flash.Atom was struggling there and all that shows is his Travel speed.What about reaction times?

That still doesn't matter as When Jonn goes Invisible he can't be seen by Superman,who also can see in the EMP spectrum.

Night..

Originally posted by Roldz
Actually try the other way around..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989733092/102
Fernus got nothing against this guy..

Atom can see EM spectrum, tracking Martian invisible or not is not a problem..

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989721318/87
Shows him amping in there.. His got better feat in amp strength departmen but am to lazy to find it.lol

What is the first scan about exactly?all it shows is Atom punching a guy and draining energy from an alternate universe....

So can Superman,but he doesn't see Jonn.Hell Jonn has hidden himself from heat seeking material as well.When Jonn wants to be undetected,he will remain undetected.

So his amping feat is KOing some guy?Jonn has koed Triumph,lifted the heavenly chariot whilst aflame ETC...

Plus can SOMEONE counter the overload,PLZ if it's you know,possible...

Originally posted by Martian_mind
What is the first scan about exactly?all it shows is Atom punching a guy and draining energy from an alternate universe....

So can Superman,but he doesn't see Jonn.Hell Jonn has hidden himself from heat seeking material as well.When Jonn wants to be undetected,he will remain undetected.

So his amping feat is KOing some guy?Jonn has koed Triumph,lifted the heavenly chariot whilst aflame ETC...

Plus can SOMEONE counter the overload,PLZ if it's you know,possible...

Its Nekron and they're fighting in his own realm, his amp his strength in that fight as well.. Its main DC universe not alternate..

Quantum field allows him to view all forms of energy signature/radiation.. Akin to Surfer tracking skills..

No its opening that sphere.. His also match strength w/ Magestic, Power Girl, Superman.. etc..

I dont see why he cant just absorbed unlimeted supply of energy and damp it to Q zone rather than absorbing it directly to him, therefore not overloading and time jumping..

Originally posted by Roldz
Its Nekron and they're fighting in his own realm, his amp his strength in that fight as well.. Its main DC universe not alternate..

Quantum field allows him to view all forms of energy signature/radiation.. Akin to Surfer tracking skills..

No its opening that sphere.. His also match strength w/ Magestic, Power Girl, Superman.. etc..

I dont see why he cant just absorbed unlimeted supply of energy and damp it to Q zone rather than absorbing it directly to him, therefore not overloading and time jumping..

Jonn Phases and turns invisible,he leaves no trace of his existence on this plain,GL Hal has been unable to track him.

Jonn has matched Strength with Superman,Triumph,Ulraman,Wonder woman,Etrigan ETC

Whats stopping him is the fact that he has not been able to do this on panel.If we assume abilities based off powers then Jonns molecular control means that he can turn into a being who absorbs enrgy,or that he can become stronger then Doomsday.

Atom has NO WAY to win,invisibility,Speed,phasing,strength and Telepathy win Jonn the match.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Jonn Phases and turns invisible,he leaves no trace of his existence on this plain,GL Hal has been unable to track him.

Jonn has matched Strength with Superman,Triumph,Ulraman,Wonder woman,Etrigan ETC

Whats stopping him is the fact that he has not been able to do this on panel.If we assume abilities based off powers then Jonns molecular control means that he can turn into a being who absorbs enrgy,or that he can become stronger then Doomsday.

Atom has NO WAY to win,invisibility,Speed,phasing,strength and Telepathy win Jonn the match.

This is what i thought of first John phase/invisibility ability, actually i though he does this by going through a diff dimension but ive found no proof of it.. So as his still in this reality Quantum field plays a big a part of it (Explained in Takion and CA series) once he calls for it, he sees and tracks whats around it, in this scenario John..

Nathaniel has match strength w/ skyfather level im talkin about Nekron (infinite supply of energy equals unknown strength amping level)

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/rroldz/album/576460762371500212/photo/294928803989725371/92
This 1 of his absorbing abilities, his done so on Parallax energies w/ Ray, GL help dough.. Also the scan i posted in earlier post w/ Nekron he absorb his energies and returned it to the Q field all this without time jumping.. Which means he can absorb energies funnels it directly to the Q field..

Invisibility CA has counter to it..
Speed CA approaches near SOFL without amping..
Phasing John needs to materialized in order to attack CA counters it via Omni blast or directional blast..
Strength CA can match it..
Telepathy CA got defenses for it..

Hows John going to counter say Psionic drain, Matter manipulation?

There are far more examples of Atom absorbing huge amounts of energy quickly and Jumping then there are of him not jumping.one does not equal thje norm.

He is able to tap the quantum feild,track Jonn and prepare a counter-attack?maybe if Jonn were standing still for the exchange.All that has been shown is Atom has good travel speed,nowhere has he shown reflexes on the level to block a blitz from Jonn,as Jonn HAS shown the reflexes.

Ever notice how when he stops to absorb energy he never moves or lets up?If he is absorbing Jonns psionmic energy he's going to have to be tracking Jonn,Absorbing energy and avoiding Jonns invisible physical attacks all at the same time.He will never manage that.

he can't counter all things at once.He will be vulnerable in an area at all stages of the battle whilst Jonn will constantly be able to attack him from all angles probing and exploiting the weaknesses.This is simply a waiting game for Jonn who can press the attack till Atom falls,simple as that.

In Jonns own words "this is not combat,you where beaten before you came here."

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, Captain Atom can absorb psychic power making it void, and if one tries a mindrape on him, he can transfer energy into their brain f*cking it up (see Armageddon). Atom's energy manipulation and projection is more than J'onn can handle. And unlike Firestorm, Nathaniel can actually transmute organic tissue.

Atom ftw here.

when did that happen in armageddon? no one tryed do mind rape captain atom, and he send alot of information to someones mind.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
There are far more examples of Atom absorbing huge amounts of energy quickly and Jumping then there are of him not jumping.one does not equal thje norm.

In the past that could be the case but present Atom is not only capable
of absorbing massive amount of energy, but is also able to time jump at will..

http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11pb6.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12zl3.jpg
Here his max out absorbtion ability that the excess source energy seeks other vessels, no time jumping.. Shows his able to control the amount of energy being transfered, but did not have the capacity to take it all..

http://img283.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captatom43156lu.jpg
He doesnt even need to absorb it unto himself but rather transfer it directly to the field.. This way he can absorb energy as quickly as he want without the danger of time jumping..

Even if the absorbtion is slow it still weakens the opponent and adding more power to him, therefore another points for him..

He is able to tap the quantum feild,track Jonn and prepare a counter-attack?maybe if Jonn were standing still for the exchange.All that has been shown is Atom has good travel speed,nowhere has he shown reflexes on the level to block a blitz from Jonn,as Jonn HAS shown the reflexes.

http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=172mp.jpg
His able to enhance himself via quantum field, his shown to do these with strength, speed and hearing. Its only fair to assume thats his capable of doing this to his reflexes.. How else could he hang out to the likes of Magestic, Hal or this guy
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlquarterly1329305gv.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captatom23227xz.jpg
Not only his able to assist the situation but act as well in half a second on that scan, its more than likely that he has enough reflex to block/parry/avoid blitzes from John..

Ever notice how when he stops to absorb energy he never moves or lets up?If he is absorbing Jonns psionmic energy he's going to have to be tracking Jonn,Absorbing energy and avoiding Jonns invisible physical attacks all at the same time.He will never manage that.

You mean like the scans i posted above, his able to do anything he wants while trying to absorbs.. Again tracking John wont be hard and avoiding physical attacks nothing a sphere shield could'nt handle..
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=extremejustice03205lz.jpg
Somethin like that..
You know Atom could also turn invisible, dont know how John could counter that?
he can't counter all things at once.He will be vulnerable in an area at all stages of the battle whilst Jonn will constantly be able to attack him from all angles probing and exploiting the weaknesses.This is simply a waiting game for Jonn who can press the attack till Atom falls,simple as that.

This will only happens if Atom fights idioticly, but at his best his far faster light speed and can see a lot farther.. Using that to his advantage he can turn the tide, stop countering and go on offensive..
John powers are impressive but its just not enough to put down someone with Captain Atoms powers.. Im not even counting his uber feats; reality/mater manipulation..

Captian Atom wins 😐

In a curbstomp.There is nothing Jonn can do.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Captian Atom wins 🙂

💃

cry

there there, you still have Trickster's possible sig to look foward to