High Evolutionairy vs. Thanos

Started by TricksterPriest5 pages

Originally posted by Lord S
So he was in space, so what? Does that even come close to proving that HE could have devolved Galactus with his own power? Get real.

Stop trying to make HE out to be something he's not.

Has HE ever devolved anyone the level of Thanos, under his own power?

Has HE ever faced anyone on par with Thanos, and not gotten his ass handed to him?

See something tells me that you yourself don't even believe your own bullshit.

This is all about Apocalypse...and making him look good, by inflating HE's power and importance; making him look really really powerful. The end result gives Apocalypse more credibility...seeing as how he stalemated HE, who according to the logic of Apoc fans, (and they're the ONLY ones I see arguing this), stalemated Galactus.

HE never stalemated Galactus. He was beaten.

Look, the devolving Galactus example is PIS and very bad writing. Ok, everyone admits that. AND WHY ARE YOU BRINGING APOC INTO THIS?! 馃槖 Apocalypse has nothing to do with this arguement. the HE did not stalemate Galactus, he just did pretty well and didn't get killed trying to fight him. Which is impressive, but again, he can't beat Galactus, and Apoc would not have done better. the HE is not gonna beat Thanos, no problem. I'll heartily agree with that. Why are you trying to bring your personal vendetta with Apocalypse into this arguement? Unless you're claiming that the HE's fight with Apoc is a low showing for him or that Apoc fans are idiots. And we do not appreciate the insinuation. Granted, there aren't alot of Apoc fans on this board, but we're not gonna take that from a biased lowlife like you. Keep your goddamn Apoc hating out of this thread, this has nothing to do with Apoc. And Evil_Ash and I don't like being talked down to like we're rabid fanboys. You're acting like we're devilgoblin&Xmeat. I greatly resent the insinuation. 馃槧

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Look, the devolving Galactus example is PIS and very bad writing. Ok, everyone admits that. AND WHY ARE YOU BRINGING APOC INTO THIS?! 馃槖 Apocalypse has nothing to do with this arguement. the HE did not stalemate Galactus, he just did pretty well and didn't get killed trying to fight him. Which is impressive, but again, he can't beat Galactus, and Apoc would not have done better. the HE is not gonna beat Thanos, no problem. I'll heartily agree with that. Why are you trying to bring your personal vendetta with Apocalypse into this arguement? Unless you're claiming that the HE's fight with Apoc is a low showing for him or that Apoc fans are idiots. And we do not appreciate the insinuation. Granted, there aren't alot of Apoc fans on this board, but we're not gonna take that from a biased lowlife like you. Keep your goddamn Apoc hating out of this thread, this has nothing to do with Apoc. And Evil_Ash and I don't like being talked down to like we're rabid fanboys. You're acting like we're devilgoblin&Xmeat. I greatly resent the insinuation. 馃槧

High E should win

Originally posted by guy222
High E should win
Based on Wolverine killing Thanos, and Cyke, Colossus being able to individually beat Thanos, or give him hell?

Originally posted by bigbran
Based on Wolverine killing Thanos, and Cyke, Colossus being able to individually beat Thanos, or give him hell?

Based on what? My choice is High E

Big Bran, you should know better to argue with Guy222. He's completely oblivious to concepts like logic, reality and on-panel showings. 馃槅

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
馃槓

The genetic accelerator that controls the evolutionary effects, which HE uses in his machines, is the same he has incorporated into his suit. Both his machines and the one in his suit produces the same effect. It has nothing to do with power levels...

Yet you don't have any on-panel evidence to suggest that HE could accomplish what he did against someone the level of Galactus or Thanos without the aid of his machinations...which common sense would dictate, exponentially increase the range and magnitude of his power. To claim otherwise would be simply guesswork based on fanboyism of another character you want to look good by making HE look extremely powerful.

Obvious if Thanos was floating around in space, he could get zapped by the machines and devolved. But one-on-one in the same vicinity, forget it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Look, the devolving Galactus example is PIS and very bad writing. Ok, everyone admits that. AND WHY ARE YOU BRINGING APOC INTO THIS?! 馃槖 Apocalypse has nothing to do with this arguement. the HE did not stalemate Galactus, he just did pretty well and didn't get killed trying to fight him. Which is impressive, but again, he can't beat Galactus, and Apoc would not have done better. the HE is not gonna beat Thanos, no problem. I'll heartily agree with that. Why are you trying to bring your personal vendetta with Apocalypse into this arguement? Unless you're claiming that the HE's fight with Apoc is a low showing for him or that Apoc fans are idiots. And we do not appreciate the insinuation. Granted, there aren't alot of Apoc fans on this board, but we're not gonna take that from a biased lowlife like you. Keep your goddamn Apoc hating out of this thread, this has nothing to do with Apoc. And Evil_Ash and I don't like being talked down to like we're rabid fanboys. You're acting like we're devilgoblin&Xmeat. I greatly resent the insinuation. 馃槧
Calm yourself. Don't take such an imperious tone with me...I never insinuated anything in your direction. I didn't mention any names. What I said was targeted at rabid fanboys...and seeing as how you yourself don't believe HE stalemated Galactus, it would automatically exempt you from that category.

So take a seat, grasshopper.

Thanos wins this fight. HE would put up a fight, but he hasn't shown anything (besides him surviving a battle with Galactus) to show he belongs in the same league as Thanos.

Originally posted by Lord S
Yet you don't have any on-panel evidence to suggest that HE could accomplish what he did against someone the level of Galactus or Thanos.

What level? Accelerating up the evolutionary process in beings has no limit because of some Dragonball-like power level.

HE prefers using his machinery to control evolutionary effects because like it is for Galactus, when he eats planets, that it's more efficient that way, by giving HE a more secured control when accelerating the evolution in a being without it going overboard.

Also note what's said in this scene:

Originally posted by Lord S
by making HE look extremely powerful.

He IS extremely powerful, he has always been depicted as a god-like character.

Originally posted by bigbran
You didn't even know how the fight went... you just heard Galactus, and you said Thanos loses... you don't always have to make spite threads, to make Thanos lose...

HE couldn't even devolve Hulk, and yet, you think he can devolve Galactus?

Thanos knocked Galactus through the walls of his ship... down onto the planet, and then he bounced miles away...

Both got one-shotted, but Thanos actually did something, and he actually took some punishment...
Oh and, Galactus wasn't starving...

Work that out smart guy...

HE's blast that he fired at him...

Out of interest how do you know that Galactus wasn't hungry (not starving hasn't been starving for a long time unless the one time where he took red shift as his herald)

I personally believed that Galactus was unprepared for that attack, IF he had been prepared for it, Thanos attack wouldn't have caused him any harm what so ever.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Also note what's said in this scene:
HE: "I'll devolve your ass". From his perspective...of course he's going to say that.

Galactus: "Maybe you can...if you could touch me". Note the sarcasm in his voice.

He IS extremely powerful, he has always been depicted as a god-like character.
A lot of characters are depicted as being 'god-like'. Ie. Apoc...but we've seen how 'god-like' he really is. Thanos has smacked around god-like characters before (Thor) and nothing tells me he can't do the same to HE.

Originally posted by Lord S
A lot of characters are depicted as being 'god-like'. Ie. Apoc...but we've seen how 'god-like' he really is.

in the animated shows, yes.

Originally posted by Lord S
smacked around god-like characters before (Thor).

And HE has one-shotted him.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
in the animated shows, yes.
You mean 'show'...as in X-Men Evolution. Apoc wasn't very god-like in TAS...just stumbled (literally) upon the Axis of Time and used the technology there to achieve his goals. Similar to HE using technology from a distance to devolve Galactus.

Since we're myopically crediting people for accomplishments achieved through indirect means, let's give Thanos full credit for capturing and imprisoning Galactus during 'Annihilation'.

Originally posted by swerve1988
HE beats thanos
APOC beats HE
Can't believe I missed this gem.

How about this:

Thanos>Thor
Thor>Magneto
Magneto>Apoc
Apoc=HE

Therefore, Thanos>HE, (and Apoc). How can you argue with that?

I love this Dragonball logic. 馃槅

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Was HE's armor even trying to devolve Hulk? Looks more like it was just firing energy blasts at him.

He did state his armor couldn't devolve Hulk.

Originally posted by Accel
He did state his armor couldn't devolve Hulk.

I just read through it, and yeah.

It's PIS if you ask me. Why would Hulk be a problem?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Big Bran, you should know better to argue with Guy222. He's completely oblivious to concepts like logic, reality and on-panel showings. 馃槅

Trickster is correct about Guy222 馃槃

Originally posted by Utrigita
Out of interest how do you know that Galactus wasn't hungry (not starving hasn't been starving for a long time unless the one time where he took red shift as his herald)

I personally believed that Galactus was unprepared for that attack, IF he had been prepared for it, Thanos attack wouldn't have caused him any harm what so ever.

Because he wasn't looking for planets, and he was doing a quest of his own to grab the Infinity Gems...

Maybe, maybe not... Thanos did put a LOT of energy into that attack, and he is pretty powerful (since, he got beat a little bit by Depowered Tyrant, and Depowered Tyrant has fought Galactus with just basically physical attacks...).

Originally posted by Lord S

Apoc=HE

Therefore, Thanos>HE, (and Apoc). How can you argue with that?

I love this Dragonball logic. 馃槅

no way is apocalypse in HE's department...

dude created counter-earth, man-beast alone who is a creation of HE could give apocalypse a run for his money...

Originally posted by Lord S

Apoc=HE

Therefore, Thanos>HE, (and Apoc). How can you argue with that?

I love this Dragonball logic. 馃槅

no way is apocalypse in HE's department...

dude created counter-earth, man-beast alone who is a creation of HE could give apocalypse a run for his money...

HE is a lower version of the stranger or the celestials when it comes to experimenting with humans etc...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
no way is apocalypse in HE's department...

dude created counter-earth, man-beast alone who is a creation of HE could give apocalypse a run for his money...

HE is a lower version of the stranger or the celestials when it comes to experimenting with humans etc...

My bad...that should be amended to:

HE=Apoc (in the minds of Apoc fans)

Originally posted by Lord S
HE=Apoc (in the minds of Apoc fans)

Um, wouldn't that be vice versa then?