Originally posted by Mr MasterNor did I discount what you posted.
As you are, which is why I dind't discount anything you posted, I debated.
Just because I found something you said to be nonsensical, (i.e. LT or THOTI not being able to destroy Jasper's Universe), doesn't mean I discounted your posts in the slightest.
You have your opinions, and I have mine.
Thus exists the exciting world of debating. 🙂
Galan, I already commented why the HOTI would be able to destroy Jaspers universe (I'll gladly debate with Master over this point if he wants to). As of the LT I see nothing wrong with him being unable to destroy Jasper's universe, he can still destroy Jaspers, fulfill his propose and move on, no need of fancier omnipotence for a construct like the LT.
Originally posted by Galan007
Nor did I discount what you posted.Just because I found something you said to be nonsensical, (i.e. LT or THOTI not being able to destroy Jasper's Universe), doesn't mean I discounted your posts in the slightest.
Again,
you brought LT and THOTI into this, not me.
They wouldn't need to destroy his Universe is what I meant,
they could destroy him directly is what I said.
Originally posted by Galan007
You have your opinions, and I have mine.Thus exists the exciting world of debating. 🙂
uhh thanx.
Originally posted by Bentley😂
As of the LT I see nothing wrong with him being unable to destroy Jasper's universe, he can still destroy Jaspers, fulfill his propose and move on, no need of fancier omnipotence for a construct like the LT.
If MJJ can be destroyed while in his Universe, then that would be an option of Mxy to use.
But from what Mr. M said..... Even forces capable of MULTIVERSAL destruction (Beyonder, LT, THOTI, and Mxy), are all incapable of destroying Jasper's in his Universe.
Originally posted by Mr MasterReally? hmm
Again,you brought LT and THOTI into this, not me.
they could destroy him directly is what I said.
Originally posted by Galan007
From what you're saying, even a force capable of MULTIVERSAL destruction would be incapable of destroying Jasper's one Universe.So by that,
Reed /w/ the UN would fail?
LT would fail?
THOTI would fail?
Beyonder would fail?Just as Mxy would fail?
All of those dudes can destroy a Multiverse on a whim, yet by what you just said...... Jasper's One Universe would be safe from them? 😂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Correct.So lol all you want, you think I give a shit ...
No Unspace, no Jaspers defeat, simple as that.
I'll claim that with Confidence duke.
Originally posted by BentleyI never said we can assume Mxy gets an autowin, I only said that based on what both characters have actually done on panel..... Mxy should take this
I have never argued about Myx being unable to out warp Jaspers, I said its a matter of opinion, since Myx goes only to a certain height in the DC's scale (and Jasper is up there in the threat level at Marvel's) we cannot assume Myx gets an autowin.
Originally posted by BentleyIt's not an autowin in all cases, but it is an autowin in most cases.
Sure, as based by things actually done on panel he triumphs pre-retcon Beyonder, I just don't want to mislead people into thinking better feats is an autowin.
On panel feats > hearsay, opinion, and/or potential of a character that has never been realized on panel.
Originally posted by Galan007
If MJJ can be destroyed while in his Universe, then that would be an option of Mxy to use.
Wouldn't work.
Originally posted by Galan007
But from what Mr. M said..... Even forces capable of MULTIVERSAL destruction (Beyonder, LT, THOTI, and Mxy), are all incapable of destroying Jasper's in his Universe.
Bull shit
I never said Beyonder, LT, THOTI can not destroy Jasper.
Originally posted by Galan007
Really? hmm
😆
I was responding to this part of the post:
Originally posted by Galan007
From what you're saying, even a force capable of MULTIVERSAL destruction would be incapable of destroying Jasper's one Universe.
Pre-retcon Beyonder - LT - THOTI are beyond Multiversal.
Mxy is Not. (concerning On Panel evidence)
From what I read, and from the issues I have concerning the Mxy Feat,
it was just ONE Multiverse, nothing more.
You say he destroyed Elseworlds cause he passed by Kingdom Come,
so Mxy passed by the "Real World" too,
so I guess he erased that aswell ... dontgetit
Originally posted by Galan007
On panel feats > hearsay,
"Hearsay" from the Omniversal Guardian.
Merlin says,
"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"
They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,
but 616 Jaspers is
"NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped,
the Omniverse will fall into Chaos,
and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"
Originally posted by Galan007
opinion,
It's Marvel's opinion,
Jaspers' Power will continue to ballon and own everything.
"at an exponentially increasing rate"
This means as it grows, it expands faster and faster and faster ...
Originally posted by Galan007
and/or potential of a character that has never been realized on panel.
Cobweb peers into the Future and see's an unchecked Jaspers:
"I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,
and Another Universe, and Another, like Dominos, Tumbling ...
I see the Future"
"And it is Cancelled"
If you dismiss this, then you have to dismiss all the Divergent Futures that have ever taken place,
because if Cobweb was able to see that Future, then that Future did take place somewhere in the continuum of Divergent Futures.
Like the Black Celestial Future, like the Here Comes Tomorrow Future, like the Korvac and Cosmic Containment Unit Future and many many more.
This argument is indeed eye opening. YOu all do realize the lvl of power it takes to even "defeat" mxy. It has NEVER been done in a direct confrontation. Even the Ultimator couldn't outright defeat Mxy. Ultimator>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MJJ. THe Spectre at full power has suffered defeat at mxy's hand and The only way the Spectre was able to temporarily beat mxy was to depower half of myx's source of power and drain his magic. SOmething MJJ Is not able to do as he is NOT supernatural. MJJ isn't so strong that he can resist Mxy simply turning him into a pickle. IF JOker with Batmite's power can put the Spectre in a Bird Cage, MJJ is in for a shitty time trying to fight the most powerful 5D Imp of all time. Mxy doesn't even have to reveal himself if he doesn't want to. He can warp the shit out of MJJ's reality and beat the crap out of him without even being seen. Mxy would simply just turn of MJJ's powers and then turn him into a goat. And laugh at him. I never knew MJJ was so powerful as to even be near the power of the LT. which is what it would take to beat Mxy.
Originally posted by Mr Master
😆I was responding to this part of the post:
Pre-retcon Beyonder - LT - THOTI are beyond Multiversal.
Mxy is Not. (concerning On Panel evidence)
From what I read, and from the issues I have concerning the Mxy Feat,
it was just ONE Multiverse, nothing more.
You say he destroyed Elseworlds cause he passed by Kingdom Come,
so Mxy passed by the "Real World" too,
so I guess he erased that aswell ... dontgetit
YOu dont' know how to read very well then. YOur reading sucks ass. The book shows on Panel mxy erasing, the infinite earths, he erases the kingdom, he erases the DCU animated , that's three right there. Reading and studying the art is fundamental if your going to try and argue a point.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu dont' know how to read very well then. YOur reading sucks ass. The book shows on Panel mxy erasing, the infinite earths, he erases the kingdom, he erases the DCU animated , that's three right there. Reading and studying the art is fundamental if your going to try and argue a point.
My reading "sucks ass"
but your fallacies has become legendary around here.
The Truth!
Mxy and Bat-Mite (the Journey)
They enter the "real world" but do nothing and leave in disgust of it, 😂
Mxy destroys the 5th Dimension
"I have had it up to here with these
Alternate Universes and Divergent Futures and Parallel Dimensions ...
(A Multiverse)
I mean isn't ONE stupid Reality confusing enough?"
swank
AGAIN:
"No more Infinite Earths, no more Alternate Universes"
(A Multiverse)
GO READ COMICS!!!
