Mr. Mxyzptlk vs Mad Jim Jaspers(AT HIS MOST POWERFULL)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Mxy was in the real world?

If you say so,

I personally don't take this seriously.

The Hulk is beyond Multiversal?

I have Dazzler in the real World and Kiss goes from the real World to Comics and back.

If you're interested I'll show you.

I suppose Dazzler is beyond Multiversal?

bigbran, this is comedy, not serious Comic book events.

The difference between mxy and the others, is he is depicted as going to the real world under his own power. a couple of times if I"m not mistaken. Mxy has always been a comical character. That what makes him so great. He is for all intents and purposes, the most omnipotent comic character in the history of Comics, with the Longest history of vast omnipotent powers but he thinks its all a joke.

What comic is that?
Doesn't seem like it's from a comic at all, but an insert in Wizard or something.

Mxy can enter and affect the real world at any given time, off his own power.

However I do agree that it doesn't neccisarily make someone Multiversal.
Animal Man has done it.
Hell, iirc, he couldn't beat one enemy, so just pulled him to the space between panels and dropped him off. lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
Well "on panel" MJJ only warped ONE Universe.

Thread starter said MJJ at his MOST POWERFUL.

That translates to MJJ at FULL Potential.

That translates to MJJ Omniversal Warper.

MJJ's most powerful displays is a different story,

I'd say Mxy takes him, but NOT MJJ at FULL Potential.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yet you try to argue that a being who warped and erased [b]infinitely more can't beat him? [/B]

Absolutely, and I still do say it's all about On Panel feats.

But this is Full Potential Jaspers 616.

Full Potential Jaspers 616 "plays dice with matter" on an Omniversal scale

Unlike Galactus, who we have no idea what a Full Powered truly is,

Jaspers is absolute in the info we have of him.

The Omniversal Guardian, Merlyn, who was BEYOND the Multiverse said,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"

They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is

"NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped,

the Omniverse will fall into Chaos,

and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"

Originally posted by Galan007
Well that's your opinion I guess. 😎

It's Marvel's opinion,

Jaspers' Power will continue to Spread outward and own everything.

"at an exponentially increasing rate"

This means as it grows, it expands faster and faster and faster ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thread starter said MJJ at his MOST POWERFUL.

That translates to MJJ at FULL Potential.

That translates to MJJ Omniversal Warper.

MJJ's most powerful displays is a different story,

I'd say Mxy takes him, but NOT MJJ at FULL Potential.

Absolutely, and I still do say it's all about On Panel feats.

But this is Full Potential Jaspers 616.

Full Potential Jaspers 616 "plays dice with matter" on an Omniversal scale

Unlike Galactus, who we have no idea what a Full Powered truly is,

Jaspers is absolute in the info we have of him.

The Omniversal Guardian, Merlyn, who was BEYOND the Multiverse said,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"

They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is

"NOT so easily contained, and [B]if he's not stopped,

the Omniverse will fall into Chaos,

and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"

It's Marvel's opinion,

Jaspers' Power will continue to Spread outward and own everything.

"at an exponentially increasing rate"

This means as it grows, it expands faster and faster and faster ... [/B]

As long as you're admitting that your opinion is based on something that the character has never actually done on panel, I'm cool. 😎

I won't argue any further.

As long as you accept that it doesn't make it any less valid I don't see why to discuss further either.

I would like to know when you guys check "Whatever happened to the man of tomorrow".

Originally posted by Galan007
Nope, it's an on panel feat battle.

The thread starter didn't metion that, I thought it was just a fight.

Originally posted by Galan007
You always preach on panel feats in every single thread, until it comes to a battle like this.

I don't get that.

I'm sorry if you don't wanna accept the On Panel feats by Jaspers.

Erasing the Universe will not work to defeat Jaspers.

Mxy does Not know about Jaspers weakness.

Merlyn was Matrix empowered, and couldn't stop Jaspers.

On Panel Jaspers' Warp only reached the fullness of one Universe, because he was stopped before his power could expand further.

Like Wanda, Jaspers needed a "Plot Device" (the Fury) to be defeated.

On Panel Cobweb saw Jaspers Potential realized in the future,

and ALL the Universes were obliterated.

"I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,

and Another Universe, and Another, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"

"And it is Cancelled"

If you dismiss this, then you have to dismiss all the Divergent Futures that have ever taken place,

because if Cobweb was able to see that Future, then that Future did take place somewhere in the continuum of Divergent Futures.

Like the Black Celestial Future, like the Here Comes Tomorrow Future, like the Korvac and Cosmic Containment Unit Future and many many more.

Originally posted by Galan007
But again, I guess that's just your opinion.

Mine and Marvel's apparently.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The thread starter didn't metion that, I thought it was just a fight.

I'm sorry if you don't wanna accept the On Panel feats by Jaspers.

Erasing the Universe will not work to defeat Jaspers.

Mxy does Not know about Jaspers weakness.

Merlyn was Matrix empowered, and couldn't stop Jaspers.

On Panel Jaspers' Warp only reached the fullness of one Universe, because he was stopped before his power could expand further.

Like Wanda, Jaspers needed a "Plot Device" (the Fury) to be defeated.

On Panel Cobweb saw Jaspers Potential realized in the future,

and ALL the Universes were obliterated.

[B]"I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,

and Another Universe, and Another, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"

"And it is Cancelled"

If you dismiss this, then you have to dismiss all the Divergent Futures that have ever taken place,

because if Cobweb was able to see that Future, then that Future did take place somewhere in the continuum of Divergent Futures.

Like the Black Celestial Future, like the Here Comes Tomorrow Future, like the Korvac and Cosmic Containment Unit Future and many many more.

Mine and Marvel's apparently. [/B]

You are very much hippocritical. you argue so much about on panel feats and then try and bring this crap to an argument. Mxy is omnipotent. He knows what the hell is going on with the Universe. he's said so in so many words. mxy has Pwned a full powered Spectre. So Unless Jaspers is pwing the LT, mxy wins. Mxy's feats are better. hell Myx's Potential is better. He has even commented on how much more power he really is and yet he doesn't do what he could, lest he mess with creation itself.

Originally posted by Juntai
What comic is that?
Doesn't seem like it's from a comic at all, but an insert in Wizard or something.

😕

Originally posted by Juntai
Mxy can enter and affect the real world at any given time, off his own power.

Jun,

I just don't take drawn pictures meshed with live photos as something to even consider during Comic Book discussions.

Originally posted by Juntai
However I do agree that it doesn't neccisarily make someone Multiversal.
Animal Man has done it.
Hell, iirc, he couldn't beat one enemy, so just pulled him to the space between panels and dropped him off. lol.

My point exactly.

It would be cool to have the Spectre saying "Myx is more power than me".

Originally posted by Galan007
Ok,

As long as you're admitting that your opinion is based on something that the character has never actually done on panel, I'm cool.

I'll just throw this at ya, till it sinks.

On Panel Cobweb saw Jaspers Potential realized in the future,

and ALL the Universes were obliterated

"I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,

and Another Universe, and Another, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"

"And it is Cancelled"

If you dismiss this, then you have to dismiss all the Divergent Futures that have ever taken place,

because if Cobweb was able to see that Future, then that Future did take place somewhere in the continuum of Divergent Futures.

Like the Black Celestial Future, like the Here Comes Tomorrow Future, like the Korvac and Cosmic Containment Unit Future and many many more.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are very much hippocritical. you argue so much about on panel feats and then try and bring this crap to an argument. Mxy is omnipotent. He knows what the hell is going on with the Universe. he's said so in so many words. mxy has Pwned a full powered Spectre. So Unless Jaspers is pwing the LT, mxy wins. Mxy's feats are better. hell Myx's Potential is better. He has even commented on how much more power he really is and yet he doesn't do what he could, lest he mess with creation itself.

Dude,

stay out of this and let the debaters do their work.

I hardly read your posts anymore, since most of the time they're exaggerations and fallacies.

Unless you post the Title & issue # of a claim you make,

consider it ignored.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'll just throw this at ya, till it sinks.

On Panel Cobweb saw Jaspers Potential realized in the future,

and [B]ALL the Universes were obliterated

"I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,

and Another Universe, and Another, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"

"And it is Cancelled"

If you dismiss this, then you have to dismiss all the Divergent Futures that have ever taken place,

because if Cobweb was able to see that Future, then that Future did take place somewhere in the continuum of Divergent Futures.

Like the Black Celestial Future, like the Here Comes Tomorrow Future, like the Korvac and Cosmic Containment Unit Future and many many more. [/B]

Maybe i am mistaken,i if i am wrong sorry

But if it did happen in a divergent future,and he is omniversal,why did it stop, how come everything is not cancelled? is it that he could only keep going in one multi-verse? or is it one universe?

Or has it not happen becsause he was stopped? if he was omniversal and it would grow unchecked and it was a future that did happen,where is the cancelation?

I am sincere and just curious

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'll just throw this at ya, till it sinks.

Bottom line.

Did Jaspers ever actually warp more then 1 Universe on panel? Nope

Did he have the potential to do more? Sure

Was this potential ever realized on panel? Nope

Now,

Did Mxy actually warp and subsequently destroy an infinite ammount of Universes? Yep

Does he have the potential to do more? Possibly, as he has never been stated to have limits to his power, but I would never bring unrealized potential into a serious debate. 😬

Originally posted by starlock
But if it did happen in a divergent future,and he is omniversal,why did it stop, how come everything is not cancelled? is it that he could only keep going in one multi-verse? or is it one universe?

Or has it not happen becsause he was stopped? if he was omniversal and it would grow unchecked and it was a future that did happen,where is the cancelation?

It woud have definitely happened, had he not been stopped.

That's the Future that would have been, had he not been stopped.

Since Cobweb SAW it, it becomes a Divergent Future.

Not a maybe, or perhaps or some "unrealized potential" as was said.

This is what happens if Jaspers reaches his Potential,

the Omniverse become his.

So Jaspers at his most powerful is a,

FULL Powerered Jaspers = the Omniverse. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
It woud have definitely happened, had he not been stopped.

That's the Future that would have been, had he not been stopped.

Since Cobweb SAW it, it becomes a Divergent Future.

If Cobweb can see the true future, he would have known that Jaspers would never reach this potential, because he would eventually be stopped.

This means Omniversal potential would have never been realized in the first place, so where the hell did this vision of a non-existant future come from?

WTF!?

Originally posted by Galan007
You can stop posting the same scans bro....... If I want to see them, I'll look at every other page you've posted in.

I'll do what I wish bro.

Originally posted by Galan007
Bottom line.

Did Jaspers ever actually warp more then 1 Universe on panel?

Yep.

In a Divergent Future that Cobweb saw,

ALL the Universes were Warped.

Originally posted by Galan007
Did he have the potential to do more?

Nah,

according to Merlyn only the Omniverse would become his plaything.

I don't know about anything beyond that, I won't speculate without proof.

Originally posted by Galan007
Was this potential ever realized on panel?

Should I throw up the scans again of Cobweb?

Originally posted by Galan007
Did Mxy actually warp and subsequently destroy an infinite ammount of Universes? Yep

Nice,

And if Mxy was battling Normal Jaspers who was only depicted Warping one Universe, I'd say Mxy wins.

But since this is FULL Power Jaspers,

This is Omniversal Jaspers vs Mxy.

I gave it a stalemate to be generous.

Originally posted by Galan007
Does he have the potential to do more? Possibly, as he has never been stated to have limits to his power, but I would never bring unrealized potential into a serious debate.

"A serious debate?"

😂

You can't bring up Mxy's potential to do more because it hasn't been mentioned.

Japsers on the other hand is stated by Merlyn and Marvel to have a much greater DEFINITE Potential than the scale he reached when he was killed.

NOT a Potential that might come about, one that will SURELY be realized given the time.

Now AGAIN:

The thread starter said Jaspers at his MOST POWERFUL.

That would be Jaspers at FULL POTENTIAL.

That would be Japsers after Warping the Omniverse.

swank

Originally posted by Mr Master
Now AGAIN:

The thread starter said Jaspers at his MOST POWERFUL.

That would be Jaspers at FULL POTENTIAL.

That would be Japsers after Warping the Omniverse.

Jaspers full potential = Omniversal, which was never realized and has no feats.

Jaspers most powerful = The most powerful version of Jaspers we saw, and that we have feats for (616).

Originally posted by Galan007
That makes no sense, and I've thought this ever since I first read the series..

If Cobweb can see the true future, he would have known that Jaspers would never reach this potential, because he would eventually be stopped.

This means Omniversal potential would have never been realized in the first place, so where the hell did this vision of a non-existant future come from?

WTF!?

You don't like it friend, write Marvel a letter.

Again:

Cobweb saw a DIVERGENT Future,

a Future that can only take place if Jaspers was not stopped.

A Future that DID take place if Jaspers was not stopped.

Since Jaspers was stopped, the Future never took place.

Marvel has been using Divergent Futures for the longest time, it you want I'll explain it more indepth.

It's quite simple once you know how it's defined.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sorry, but full potential, and most powerful are 2 COMPLETELY different things.

Not at all.

Originally posted by Galan007
Jaspers full potential = Omniversal,

Originally posted by Galan007
which was never realized and has no feats.

Cobweb peers into the Future and see's a Potential Jaspers:

"I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,

and Another Universe, and Another, like Dominos, Tumbling ...

I see the Future"

"And it is Cancelled"

If you dismiss this, then you have to dismiss all the Divergent Futures that have ever taken place,

because if Cobweb was able to see that Future, then that Future did take place somewhere in the continuum of Divergent Futures.

Like the Black Celestial Future, like the Here Comes Tomorrow Future, like the Korvac and Cosmic Containment Unit Future and many many more.

😛

Originally posted by Galan007
Jaspers most powerful = The most powerful version of Jaspers we saw, and that we have feats for (616).

Let's ask the Thread starter what he meant by,

"at his Most Powerful"

Otherwise we'll be going in circle all day.

So when we say Energy Superman at Full Power, we mean, the most powerful being in the omniverse then? That's what has been said of his potential.
Hell, even regular Superman has said to have the potential to be the most powerful being in this universe and it's divergent timestreams. Even so recent as a few months ago, by beings viewing our timestreams from outside of them. Would that be current Superman at his most powerful?