Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL your looking pathetic. The lasso was there just so they didn't have the earth crumble under it's own weight, they still had to apply the steady pressure. And Thor and Herc Didn't Throw anything out of Orbit. the statement is hyperbole with nothing to back it up. The feat is dismissed.
THATS WHAT I JUST SAID!
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Originally posted by Soujaboy
THAT WAS THE STYLE OR WRITTING DURING THAT TIME. LITTLE BOXES WERE DRAWN ON SCREEN FOR THE WRITER TO EXPLAIN WHAT WAS HAPPENEING ON PANEL.
LOL, you dont' get it. They never moved the earth. The first writer says, Holy cow, the ledge they were standign on crumbled. The 2nd writer says, count your lucky stars, they were generating enough force to knock the planet out of orbit.
They NEVER knocked the planet out of orbit.
Originally posted by Soujaboyhysterical
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Originally posted by Soujaboy
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Funny as it may be, I know it hurts to have nvr pwn you. They NEVER moved the earth out of it's orbit. you deconstructed your own argument with that panel.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL, you dont' get it. They never moved the earth. The first writer says, Holy cow, the ledge they were standign on crumbled. The 2nd writer says, count your lucky stars, they were generating enough force to knock the planet out of orbit.They NEVER knocked the planet out of orbit.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Pull something against the gravity of something 300,000 times the size of what your pulling, which then in turn is far more massive than your self. Thor and herc shaking the planet a lil is good. But it is not the same as PULLING the planet out of the sun's gravitational pull.
The result? Planet shaking force. You can easily see it because:
A- it was stated.
B- It was showed the side effects on Earth. The weather starting to change, the plateau giving up, etc.
C- they have at least another feat that gets them that high. So its not an isolated incident.
Originally posted by bigbran
"Atlas was the son of Iapetus. Unlike his brothers Prometheus and Epimetheus, Atlas fought with the other Titans supporting Cronus against Zeus. Due to Cronus's advance age Atlas lead the Titan's in battle. As a result he was singled out by Zeus for a special punishment and made to hold up the world on his back."
http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/GG/titan.html#Atlas
The two versions actually exist. Besides "Heaven" and "World" its also described as "Firmament" where the stars would "lie".
There is more than one account that describes that when Hercules was admited in Heaven and thus a constellation of him appears, that Atlas felt the added weigth.
But that belongs to myth. Comic wise, Hercules has been said to have bared the World twice, and the Heavens once.
As far as i know, since i havent read every single Marvel Herc story.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM no. The planet was not thrown out of orbit in that comic. There was no planet wide cataclims. Also, Force and knocking something out of orbit is a display of Force Not strength. If that indeed happened. Also, They weren't Weren't moving anything against the Sun's gravity at a slow pace. IT is also PIS if they did it. Unlike the Superman/WW/MM feat, which clearly shows the magic lasso on all sides of the earth, keeping it from falling apart.
A display of "force" not strengh? What is this, a Star Wars thread?
It was strength. Pure and simple.
Second, it was demostrated planet SHAKING force. Im on the record to say i dont think the planet was taken out of Orbit, *only* that they displayed strength enough for that to happen.
The reason the feat is simply impressive its obvious. Even for you: They werent trying to move the planet, they wer doing a armwrestling match. The other reason why its more impressive than practically anything WW has done, its also obvious. They were pitting strength against each other, not helping each other and yet we have that kind of strength display.
WW needs help for that.
And btw. Yes, we do see the side effects.
If you read the story, that is.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Was that feat another one of Hercules' hyerbole feats? I would say WW and Thor are pretty close in strength.
Thor is stronger. But sure, since WW isent far off, id agree on the "closer" part.
What hyperbole feat? It happened on panel and was stated that they generated that kind of strength.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course if you look at how much the earth's mass is, even divided by three, that would be more wieght than most any marvel top tier has moved. But Look at it in the bigger context. They were pulling all that mass against the power of the sun's gravitational pull. So times 300,000 times the earth's weight and divide it by three and then you have the actual weight they each were pulling. Something like 10000 Earth's each.
Nice try, but Marvel top tiers have solo planet feats.
Not to mention that the three failed to move the Earth, after the initial push. Kyle came to the rescue for one reason.
Guess, wich one it is.
Originally posted by olympian
The two versions actually exist. Besides "Heaven" and "World" its also described as "Firmament" where the stars would "lie".There is more than one account that describes that when Hercules was admited in Heaven and thus a constellation of him appears, that Atlas felt the added weigth.
But that belongs to myth. Comic wise, Hercules has been said to have bared the World twice, and the Heavens once.
As far as i know, since i havent read every single Marvel Herc story.
Since i know this would stir some people up - yes Snoop im looking at you- i want to make clear that here im only saying the amounts of times that i am aware that the writers claimed Hercules having the feat.
- in two stories, it was the "Earth".
- in one it was the "Heavens".
Nvr, since I understand physics I'll be the one putting your WW argument on its toes. First of all, from a party of three you cannot be sure Diana was moving as much mass as Supes or MM (although I'll admit John was more likely to be pulling less).
Also, someone just made a reference of a GL helping, if that happened I would politely ask for some scans, because it could be of importance. I wait for your response.
Originally posted by Bentley
Nvr, since I understand physics I'll be the one putting your WW argument on its toes. First of all, from a party of three you cannot be sure Diana was moving as much mass as Supes or MM (although I'll admit John was more likely to be pulling less).Also, someone just made a reference of a GL helping, if that happened I would politely ask for some scans, because it could be of importance. I wait for your response.
They were moving the Earth, as shown by the smoke and stress they were putting on the Earth drawn in the picture, They were having a hard time of it and GL had to come give them a hand. I'm not Sure Diana was moving a Third of the mass, but even if she only moved one Tenth of it, (which is highly Unlikely), WHen you look at the amount of mass moved against the sun's solar system sustaining gravity, The numbers are just huge. It is a very quantifiable feat and Likely the greatest strength Feat that can be actually quantified.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
What about when Thor threw the Midgard Serpent off of earth and into space?
The Midgard Serpent was no where near the Mass of the Earth. ANd Thor pulled the serpent off of the Earth. So he was pulling against the Earth's gravity. Impressive. But not in the same league.
