Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no. WW's greatest Strength feat is Pulling one third of the Earth's weight Against the power of the sun's gravity. If you take the mass of the sun, and compare it to the mass of the earth, and then take that number and apply it to the weight of the earth in multiples, adding in the other planet's gravity that sustain the solar system's equinox, the weight they were pulling would be like pulling 100 Earths.And just for the record, Barda has held the weight of a continent and WW beat her in hand to hand. Also Diana has held up the Texas Sized meteor that was falling from space that Not even Terra could stop. Terra moves mountains like we move playing cards.
Rubbish, absolute rubbish.
First off just because something is x times more massive than another object, it doesn't mean it has x times the gravitational pull. Second, the power of gravity deteriorates over distance, and the Sun is a considerable distance away from the Earth. I'll admit the orbital pull of the earth makes it harder to move, than it would if it existed in Interstellar space, but it doesn't require a 100 x the amount of energy .
And once again, the movement of planets, and other massive objects usually involves propulsion power rather than brute physical strength. This is why the caharcter is usually flying when moving the object. Evidence from MANY comics suggests that the energies transfered to brute strength, is portinonally far smaller than the energies that can be manipulated by their propulsion abilities. 🙂
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Your an idiot.You didn't read the comic.
I don't know where you got this concussive force thing from. I assume it's another one of your lies.
They were in a slow steady contest that according to the writer could have lasted for weeks. However this was after they thew the planet out of orbit.
Thats comic completely and utterly contradicts itself. They where generating enough pressure to knock the planet out of orbit, and yet they only shattered to the plateau. 😕
Wreaks of Hyperbole IMO.
Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Thats comic completely and utterly contradicts itself. They where generating enough pressure to knock the planet out of orbit, and yet they only shattered to the plateau. 😕Wreaks of Hyperbole IMO.
The energy was directed at one another. It was just ambient energy that crushed the plateau. At least how those things are usually explained.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The energy was directed at one another. It was just ambient energy that crushed the plateau. At least how those things are usually explained.
No, thats you're own half asset explanation, that is contradicted by the context of the quote ....
The Narrator is referring to the pressure that destroyed the plateau. And yet it had enough power to knock the planet out of orbit. 🙄
🙂
Rubbish, absolute rubbish.First off just because something is x times more massive than another object, it doesn't mean it has x times the gravitational pull. Second, the power of gravity deteriorates over distance, and the Sun is a considerable distance away from the Earth. I'll admit the orbital pull of the earth makes it harder to move, than it would if it existed in Interstellar space, but it doesn't require a 100 x the amount of energy .
We could just work it out you know. F = GMm/r^2. We get 3.53 x 10^26 newtons. She'd need to exceed that to move it and exceed it by a good amount to move it at any speed. That's not including inertia and the fact the Earth is already moving.
Nvr is right. It's the same moving the equivalent weight of around a hundred Earths
And once again, the movement of planets, and other massive objects usually involves propulsion power rather than brute physical strength. This is why the caharcter is usually flying when moving the object. Evidence from MANY comics suggests that the energies transfered to brute strength, is portinonally far smaller than the energies that can be manipulated by their propulsion abilities
I've already countered this argument, using how the human musculature works to disprove your theory. If the chain was tied around her waist the feat would be pure thrust mixed with a bit of invulnerability. As it is she's holding the chain in her arms so she needs the full strength to move the mass.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
We could just work it out you know. F = GMm/r^2. We get 3.53 x 10^26 newtons. She'd need to exceed that to move it and exceed it by a good amount to move it at any speed. That's not including inertia and the fact the Earth is already moving.
I find this hard to believe but i'll do the maths in a moment.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I've already countered this argument, using how the human musculature works to disprove your theory. If the chain was tied around her waist the feat would be pure thrust mixed with a bit of invulnerability. As it is she's holding the chain in her arms so she needs the full strength to move the mass.
Apples, Oranges IMO. Her hand grip is stronger than the chain, therefore she needs to hold onto it, and in the case of the Earth moving incident in the Obsidian Age, her lasso is rapped around the Martian Manhunter, Superman and Wonder Woman.
I find this hard to believe but i'll do the maths in a moment.
I was surprised too. I thought it would be much less.
Apples, Oranges IMO. Her hand grip is stronger than the chain, therefore she needs to hold onto it, and in the case of the Earth moving incident in the Obsidian Age, her lasso is rapped around the Martian Manhunter, Superman and Wonder Woman.
Right it was her lasso, I was thinking of the moon moving feat for some reason. Looking it the scan to refresh my memory it is definitely a feat of muscular strength as well as thrust.
Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Thats comic completely and utterly contradicts itself. They where generating enough pressure to knock the planet out of orbit, and yet they only shattered to the plateau. 😕Wreaks of Hyperbole IMO.
With so many stories like this, i wonder why some get the "hyperbole" treatment and others don`t.
Originally posted by Soljer
Also, as far as the serpent goes, post the scan.It is VERY apparent that the Serpent is not NEARLY as large as the Earth.
In the fishing feat, the Serpent is by far larger than the Globe, by the simple fact it encircles it.
The debatable isue is, if its heavy as or > the globe. Or not.
Don`t mix one issue with another.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I was surprised too. I thought it would be much less.Right it was her lasso, I was thinking of the moon moving feat for some reason. Looking it the scan to refresh my memory it is definitely a feat of muscular strength as well as thrust.
I don't agree, I suppose Joe Kelly and Mark Waid are the only ones who really know whether it was thrust or muscle power. 🙂
I hope it was monentum power rather than muscle strength, because it even things out and explains a lot of inconsistency. 🙂
Originally posted by olympian
Or you know, maybe the pressure was at its peak for that in one moment and after the plateau shattered it calmed down somewhat just in time for the story to end in the stalemate. Just because we dont see the planet going awol in space like a tennis ball, doesnt mean such pressure wasen`t being done at that point. If its what the writter wanted to convey, its what it is.
Straw clutching explanation at best.
Originally posted by olympian
In the fishing feat, the Serpent is by far larger than the Globe, by the simple fact it encircles it.The debatable isue is, if its heavy as or > the globe. Or not.
Don`t mix one issue with another.
The crust in circles the Earths inner core, but it doesn't nearly have the same mass . The Serpent wasn't nearly heavy enough to break the crust and is therefore not as massive. Your logic is faulty.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
For ever?What does Thor propelling himself have to do with his strength?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/442514_1-propulsion-power-or-strength
Originally posted by Donkey Punch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/442514_1-propulsion-power-or-strength
Thor wasn't flying. He fished the serpent up, much harder then even dead lifting.