Originally posted by juggernaut66666He could beat him if he kept running into Superman's fists like he does with Thanos.
Somehow I doubt that Superman could kill Surfer with his bare hands.
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Originally posted by Juntai
He's clearly using tech and powers, which are not as his disposal in this fight, to survive. You'll also notice he leaves the battle to plot device Thor, which also is not available to him in this fight.
As I said, I've read many of Thanos' showings, and most of them are reliant on plot devices, tech, and outside forces.
Originally posted by Juntai
And his feats, even with those, have been reached or passed by Superman.
Originally posted by Juntai
Being a slugfest, Superman has the distinct advantage here, the only trait that even comes close to matching up is durability, but most of Thanos' rely on tech/shields.
Originally posted by Juntai
With shields and tech.Forum version of Surfer is far away from the one that appears fighting against Thanos...
Originally posted by juggernaut66666OK, why doesn't Norrin make... you know .. a black hole... ?
Thanos easily took a blast from an angry Surfer into the face without even being fazed he has always been shown superior to Norrin and he also got an upgrade since that "fight".
The forum version of Surfer is far and away more powerful than the one that fights Thanos.
Originally posted by Juntai
OK, why doesn't Norrin make... you know .. a black hole... ?
Thanos almost died from one.The forum version of Surfer is far and away more powerful than the one that fights Thanos.
Originally posted by Juntai
OK, why doesn't Norrin make... you know .. a black hole... ?
Thanos almost died from one.The forum version of Surfer is far and away more powerful than the one that fights Thanos.
can surfer make a black hole? Isn't a black hole>>>>>>>the power a star? norrin went mad once from the Power of one star. I dont' know about making a black hole strong enough to bother thanos. Black holes seem to be something only sky father's should be able to do. maybe I'm wrong tho.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
can surfer make a black hole? Isn't a black hole>>>>>>>the power a star? norrin went mad once from the Power of one star. I dont' know about making a black hole strong enough to bother thanos. Black holes seem to be something only sky father's should be able to do. maybe I'm wrong tho.
Originally posted by PriestActually, if Thor took that many hits from bloodlusted Superman, he would have been sprawled out on the floor.
Juntai, i dont see thanos using tech and other powers in these scans, i just see him using his fists, taking a lot of punishment, and smiling.
http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bbt43el.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bbt56ro.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bbt61ym.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bbt71pc.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6471/silversurferv3088156tf.jpgThats actually another topic all together, and should desirve its own thead.
Thanos trumps superman in durablity; they guy dosent even feel pain, can superman take punches from Thor and smile about it?
How bout taking shots from Odin and live to tell about it?
Can superman fight the hulk, thing, Thor, and hercules at the same time and still hold his own?
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hulkthing0mf.jpg
(BTW their was no tech involved in the above examples.)
Hulk Thing Thor and Herc? Why not? He's done better.
A simple blast from a weak Galactus subdued him.
He admitted Tyrant could kill him.
Thor has knocked him around or KOed him multiple times, even Masterson iirc.
Spiderman almost rocked him off his feet.
In one issue, he said a nuke could kill him.
I could go on and on.
Notice how he didn't engage any of the elders directly, but used plot devices, tech, treachery, the whole way through Thanos Quest.
Notice how he used powers, tech, and plot devices on Warrior Madness Thor.
Notice how instead of actually engaging and beating Fallen One, he made him beat himself.
Notice how he doesn't have access to said powers, plot devices, shields and tech in this thread?
Thanos' durability might trump Superman's..... in your opinion. However, the comics paint a different story, considering what Superman has shrugged off in his day, and this is very debatable.
Even assuming that he does, it's not much of a different at all, but Superman's strength and speed is still unrivaled here.
Sorry it took me a long time to reply, I'm trying to finish up some HW before class.
Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, if Thor took that many hits from Superman, he would have been sprawled out on the floor.
Originally posted by Juntai
You notice that hit from Thor uplifted him off his feet , so he had no way to stop his propulsion, and it only knocked him against the wall, and not through it?
Originally posted by Juntai
Hulk Thing Thor and Herc? Why not? He's done better.
Originally posted by Juntai
A simple blast from a weak Galactus subdued him.
Originally posted by Juntai
He admitted Tyrant could kill him.
Originally posted by Juntai
Thor has knocked him around or KOed him multiple times, even Masterson iirc.
Originally posted by Juntai
spider-man almost rocked him off his feet.
I could go on and on.
Originally posted by Juntai
Notice how he didn't engage any of the elders directly, but used plot devices, tech, treachery, the whole way through Thanos Quest.
Notice how he used powers, tech, and plot devices on Warrior Madness Thor.Notice how instead of actually engaging and beating Fallen One, he made him beat himself.
Originally posted by Juntai
Notice how he doesn't have access to said powers, plot devices, shields and tech in this thread?
Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos' durability might trump Superman's..... in your opinion. However, the comics paint a different story, considering what Superman has shrugged off in his day, and this is very debatable.
Originally posted by Juntai
Even assuming that he does, it's not much of a different at all, but Superman's strength and speed is still unrivaled here.
Most of that doesn't warrrant replying to, the truth is, Superman has survived easily as crazy things, and even stayed conscious or alive through them. And that's without tech or shields, unlike Thanos, who uses them survive higher end attacks.
And about the Thor, Herc, Thing and Hulk?
Supes has done better. You calling it PIS doesn't change anything.
And Thor is a match for Supes like Thor is a match for Thanos, he could stand up a clone maybe[like Gladiator, who he had to blindside with his most powerful attack to drop and still not truly defeat.], but not the real thing while he's bloodlusted. 😉
Superman has done his own share of ass whooping and incredible feats.
In Superman 153, he took a beam from an Imperiex Probe that was written as to be able to wipe a solar system.
In JLA 41, Superman absorbed the energy of the Mageddon Warhead, a device that could vaporizing half of a galaxy.
In Hunter Prey 3 he took a million nukes blast.
Is Thanos' durability more consistant? Sure, but Superman's level varies, he doesn't just walk around at full power, he mentally wills himself lower while on Earth fighting lesser baddies. Through the entirety of 52, he's only powerless because he wants to be. However, I thought we were talking about blood lusted good showing Superman, who's strength and speed are superior here, and durability is easily up on par.
Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, if Thor took that many hits from bloodlusted Superman, he would have been sprawled out on the floor.
You notice that hit from Thor uplifted him off his feet , so he had no way to stop his propulsion, and it only knocked him against the wall, and not through it?Hulk Thing Thor and Herc? Why not? He's done better.
A simple blast from a weak Galactus subdued him.
He admitted Tyrant could kill him.
Thor has knocked him around or KOed him multiple times, even Masterson iirc.
Spiderman almost rocked him off his feet.
In one issue, he said a nuke could kill him.
I could go on and on.Notice how he didn't engage any of the elders directly, but used plot devices, tech, treachery, the whole way through Thanos Quest.
Notice how he used powers, tech, and plot devices on Warrior Madness Thor.
Notice how instead of actually engaging and beating Fallen One, he made him beat himself.Notice how he doesn't have access to said powers, plot devices, shields and tech in this thread?
Thanos' durability might trump Superman's..... in your opinion. However, the comics paint a different story, considering what Superman has shrugged off in his day, and this is very debatable.
Even assuming that he does, it's not much of a different at all, but Superman's strength and speed is still unrivaled here.
From all the post in this thread this is the only one that I fealt needed to be called bullshit.
I doubt it especially considering the punishment he's taken from far superior characters. However if Supes took as many hits from WM Thor as Thanos did theirs no doubt he'd be layed out.
This is crazy talk, Superman can't defeat Thor, Hercules, Hulk, and Thor at the same time. In fact in pure h2h he'd be hard pressed to defeat Thor, Hercules, and Hulk in single confrontations. If all poers were used, then he would definitely fall.
Superman isn't as durable as Thanos. I don't see Superman taking shots from Odin and living. In fact, a single shot from Odin should be proficient enough to kill Superman.
Thanos wins
Originally posted by SoujaboyYah?
From all the post in this thread this is the only one that I fealt needed to be called bullshit.
I doubt it especially considering the punishment he's taken from far superior characters. However if Supes took as many hits from WM Thor as Thanos did theirs no doubt he'd be layed out.He's survived worse, I even pointed out instances, unless you think a punch that can't even knock Thanos, who was airborne, through a wall, can annihilate a galaxy.
This is crazy talk, Superman can't defeat Thor, Hercules, Hulk, and Thor at the same time. In fact in pure h2h he'd be hard pressed to defeat Thor, Hercules, and Hulk in single confrontations. If all poers were used, then he would definitely fall.Please, he's taken on worse. Or have you forgotten that he's taken on a dozen or so of guys in this range at the same time? And even guys far more powerful than this team can handle.
Superman isn't as durable as Thanos. I don't see Superman taking shots from Odin and living. In fact, a single shot from Odin should be proficient enough to kill Superman.If you wrote it maybe. 😉 His feats say otherwise.Thanos wins
Maybe you forgot to read this post;
Most of that doesn't warrrant replying to, the truth is, Superman has survived easily as crazy things, and even stayed conscious or alive through them. And that's without tech or shields, unlike Thanos, who uses them survive higher end attacks.And about the Thor, Herc, Thing and Hulk?
Supes has done better. You calling it PIS doesn't change anything.
And Thor is a match for Supes like Thor is a match for Thanos, he could stand up a clone maybe[like Gladiator, who he had to blindside with his most powerful attack to drop and still not truly defeat.], but not the real thing while he's bloodlusted.Superman has done his own share of ass whooping and incredible feats.
In Superman 153, he took a beam from an Imperiex Probe that was written as to be able to wipe a solar system.
In JLA 41, Superman absorbed the energy of the Mageddon Warhead, a device that could vaporizing half of a galaxy.
In Hunter Prey 3 he took a million nukes blast.Is Thanos' durability more consistant? Sure, but Superman's level varies, he doesn't just walk around at full power, he mentally wills himself lower while on Earth fighting lesser baddies. Through the entirety of 52, he's only powerless because he wants to be. However, I thought we were talking about blood lusted good showing Superman, who's strength and speed are superior here, and durability is easily up on par.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I doubt that Doomsday's or General's or Despero's punches could destroy galaxies.....
nah ah that was all PIS the only time supes is written correctly is when he takes galaxy busting attacks that don't have any effect.
seriously any other character and people would screem PIS
Originally posted by Juntai
And I hope you know that how much money Superman comics make is not helping your case here at all, but making me laugh at you, while you use it as an excuse.
well I am talking in general and I didn't say it worked. I do not think dc would be in business today if it wasn't for superman. All the toys, movies, cartton, and so many other things over the years has really helped dc and you know it. current sales maybe low but i'm sure they will pick up again when good writters are at the helm.
well I am talking in general and I didn't say it worked. I do not think dc would be in business today if it wasn't for superman. All the toys, movies, cartton, and so many other things over the years has really helped dc and you know it. current sales maybe low but i'm sure they will pick up again when good writters are at the helm.
Considering we have Grant Morrison, Kurt Busiek and Geoff Johns writing Superman and telling the best stories for Superman in years how would you suggest upping the quality? Also Superman is still out selling a lot of major heroes from both companies. I'm looking at you Hulk.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Considering we have Grant Morrison, Kurt Busiek and Geoff Johns writing Superman and telling the best stories for Superman in years how would you suggest upping the quality? Also Superman is still out selling a lot of major heroes from both companies. I'm looking at you Hulk.
All true and the Hulk is also a brilliant book at the moment. The kids want crap. Not Planet Hulk and the present Action comics which are both brilliant.
Don't forget Donner!!
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