Originally posted by Trackz
not what I meant, is captain america shown to be in excess or under 800 pounds more frequently?
Again check his thread and look at his strength feats. There are bucket loads of them from throughout his career which contradict his handbook references.
People have this idea that he is simply a mirror image of Batman when it comes to strength or endurance.Ed Brubaker or some other chap who has written for both characters stated this is not the case.Heck the comics themselves now sometimes refer to him as an enhanced supersoldier. *shrugs*
Originally posted by Warrior18So let me get this right, are you saying Cap is stronger, weaker, equal?
Again check his thread and look at his strength feats. There are bucket loads of them from throughout his career which contradict his handbook references.People have this idea that he is simply a mirror image of Batman when it comes to strength or endurance.Ed Brubaker or some other chap who has written for both characters stated this is not the case.Heck the comics themselves now sometimes refer to him as an enhanced supersoldier. *shrugs*
Originally posted by srankmissingninit is out of character for Wolverine to save a helpless woman though...
Wolverine attacking a vampire to save a helpless woman? After the vampire provoked him no less? Shocking!!! No wonder he was surprised, Wolverine isn't the kind of guy who would save a woman from a vampire!!!!! Very out of character, no wonder the vampire (who know he was dealing with Wolverine btw) didn't see it coming!
Originally posted by snoopdogg
So let me get this right, are you saying Cap is stronger, weaker, equal?
Personally I think Cap is a 1 tonner. I'm not actually saying anyone is stronger or weaker.I have simply been arguing that he is much much stronger than his handbook listings since they contradict the comics.
My argument has been exclusively against you and your idea of Blade being stronger simply based on bios and their writers. I have been arguing because you ignore on panel evidence.
Originally posted by Warrior18So I'm asking you, who's stronger?
Personally I think Cap is a 1 tonner. I'm not actually saying anyone is stronger or weaker.I have simply been arguing that he is much much stronger than his handbook listings since they contradict the comics.My argument has been exclusively against you and your idea of Blade being stronger simply based on bios and their writers. I have been arguing because you ignore on panel evidence.
Strength feats
Cap easily pushing the head of a soilder as it cracks the concrete.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/9247/caf0603li3.jpg
Carrying a motorcycle.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8095/adventuresofcaptainamerdb4.jpg
Cap is startled a bit and crushes a gun.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2021/adventuresofcaptainamernj4.jpg
Easily breaking shackles.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/2554/adventuresofcaptainamervc5.jpg
Breaking chains.
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/3047/captainamericav48p11hgwra3.jpg
Easily bending jail bars.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/4444/advofcaptainamerica416gg7.jpg
Again bending jail bars.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9194/adventuresofcaptainamerqs8.jpg
Catching a thick Torpedo and hitting the other with shield.
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3656/captainamerica37story2pqw5.jpg
Cap escaping from a huge snake with some aid.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9692/captainamericav330p11bl8.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4901/captainamericav330p12iz8.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2010/captainamericav330p13jn8.jpg
Cap holding off the Superhuman Cap.
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1802/captainamerica15605mm6.jpg
Cap holding off Maddog.
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/551/captainamerica41116cp1.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/751/captainamerica41117fa5.jpg
Cap holding the strong arms of Lady Octopus.
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretwar41314zh0.jpg
The Superhuman Berserk tilts a car over Cap, as we see later the car is upright.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7192/captainamerica24415tf6.jpg
Cap tearing metel off a tractor.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5274/cap339pg18wz6.jpg
Cap pulling the arm off a robot.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6751/captainamericavol31316fv4.jpg
Cap breaks out of a shield containment device.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6906/captainamericavol31022rc6.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1537/captainamericavol31025sz5.jpg
Cap bend's the flap of a jet from the outside.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6562/captainamericavol31019sv2.jpg
Cap pulling a supply truck through the desert.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2944/captainamericadmr2of303zm4.jpg
Cap makes a steel door buckle as you see it twised up as its on the ground.
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/189/camedusaeffect049td3.jpg
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4290/camedusaeffect050mq6.jpg
Cap with the aid of his shield stops a falling elevator by applying it through the other side, as he applies enough force stops the elevator.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2904/captainamericav303315fm8.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2278/captainamericav303316un4.jpg
Cap manually closes the nuke launch doors.
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31222pg8.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31223sq0.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31224rb3.jpg
Cap keeps open the Gamma-core doors.
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrironmanv200610rougherki0.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrironmanv200613rougherpp2.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrironmanv200616rougherqs1.jpg
Cap works out easily with 1100 lbs.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7048/captainamericav1402ocd0fr6.jpg
Cap lifts a big piece of debris off.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6935/ca01036zc1.jpg
Cap easily deflects a statue thats stated to weigh a Ton or more.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6794/captainamerica256p13hi7.jpg
Cap tilts over a big heavy statue that he's chained up too.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8306/captainamericav305060aa0.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav305062ts1.jpg
Cap breaks out of cryogenic freezing, there was no space for levarage as we see even slight finger movements start breaking the thick ice.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4712/captainamerica444p22uk1.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1761/captainamerica44501id6.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1307/captainamerica44503zw3.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3151/captainamerica4450405al5.jpg
Cap picks up the massive Big Bertha.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2332/wca06420ny8.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3863/wca06421nj4.jpg
Not many street characters tackle down or wrestle the big dogs of marvel. But Cap certainly doesn't mind.
Cap tackles Ironman.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3263/ai04018si4.jpg
Cap tackles Namor.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/262/captainamericav412p22hgaz2.jpg
Cap tackles down the big three Ironman, Giantman, and Thor.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2299/avengers00405yg6.jpg
Cap holds off Namor.
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p15hghy4.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p16hglq2.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p17hgth7.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p18hglj8.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav412p19hgwo0.jpg
Cap makes Thor/Ironman feel his strength as they are both holding Cap down.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7100/avengersv100903ve6.jpg
Cap holds up lots of debris and breaks out.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8959/captainamerica36918gc4.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9294/captainamerica37001yd7.jpg
Cap holds up lots of falling concrete and steel.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6338/captainamerica22817oh9.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4535/captainamerica22902mv1.jpg
Cap holds up a good portion of a Skyscrapper.
http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol30924jh9.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol30925nh2.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31003ml6.jpg