Galan, what you say don't quite make sense to me.
If S1M thought Prime was dead, why did he stop his FV? Shouldn't he in fact make sure he kills Solaris rather than giving Solaris a chance to regroup?
the fact is, S1M knew, along with everyone else, that Prime was their ONLY hope against Solaris. Hence, once he thought Prime was dead, he knew it was pointless to continue his FV as Solaris would soon annihilate them all.
checkmate.
Originally posted by masterbruce
Galan, what you say don't quite make sense to me.If S1M thought Prime was dead, why did he stop his FV? Shouldn't he in fact make sure he kills Solaris rather than giving Solaris a chance to regroup?
Maybe he's just as irrational as normal people and allowed emotion to guide his actions.
Originally posted by masterbruce
Galan, what you say don't quite make sense to me.If S1M thought Prime was dead, why did he stop his FV? Shouldn't he in fact make sure he kills Solaris rather than giving Solaris a chance to regroup?
the fact is, S1M knew, along with everyone else, that Prime was their ONLY hope against Solaris. Hence, once he thought Prime was dead, he knew it was pointless to continue his FV as Solaris would soon annihilate them all.
checkmate.
You say checkmate as if you think your post meant anything.
It doesn't. You are talking in speculation. Galan is talking in facts.
Superman 1M stated, ON PANEL, that Solaris would be burnt out.
....What's so hard to understand about that. On panel facts > Speculation.
Period.
I just sunk your battleship.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Maybe he's just as irrational as normal people and allowed emotion to guide his actions.
Exactly. Imagine how you would react if your father had just been killed. Now imagine that it's not just a father, but...a king. Almost a god, to you.
You may get a little upset, and forget about the task at hand.
Originally posted by masterbruceIf you were in a boxing match, and clearly beating your opponent, then all of the sudden he pulled out a gun and fired a bullet directly at your dad's head...... I'm pretty sure a "normal" person's concentration would slip, just to see what happened to their father.
Galan, what you say don't quite make sense to me.If S1M thought Prime was dead, why did he stop his FV? Shouldn't he in fact make sure he kills Solaris rather than giving Solaris a chance to regroup?
the fact is, S1M knew, along with everyone else, that Prime was their ONLY hope against Solaris. Hence, once he thought Prime was dead, he knew it was pointless to continue his FV as Solaris would soon annihilate them all.
checkmate.
Well the same can be said here.
S1M could have burned out Solaris, but he thought Prime was just killed.
Checkmate? 😕
Yo.
Originally posted by Galan007
Just because S1M's concentration had to remain on Solaris, doesn't change the fact that he could have beaten it.Once S1M cemented Kyle's construct, the ONLY thing that made him stop applying FV, (which would have stopped Solaris), was the fact that he thought Prime had just been killed.
look at that pic again & this quote from S1M: "But my concentration has to remain on this task until Solaris safely exhausts his fury AND his supply of hydrogen."
by that comment, we're led to believe that he had to maintain THAT task, and THAT task ONLY.
now if U wanna put forward that he couldve done something else while maintaining his FV, then fine, but then U also have to admit that Kyle *couldve* held Solaris (problematic as it was) until its supply of was exhausted by himself (seeing as how theres no indication of his construct weakening.)
as I said b4, its a debatable point
Originally posted by Galan007
Hourman had nothing but a TINY FRACTION of a complete Worlogog's power, and this was enough for him to EASILY stop to Big Bang of a Universe, by freezing it in time FOREVER.Name one occasion where ANY GL ring using a TINY FRACTION of it's power has had a similar feat.
And if any feat(s) you name were accomplished with anything but a FRACTION of a GL ring's power, then they cannot be compared in the slightest. 🙂
uhhh, as I recall he had an Else-Men-created-but-still-incomplete 'gog to accomplish that feat; it was FAR MORE than a tiny fraction, when he then gave up to Metron.
perhaps U wanna find another feat?? 😄
Tazer
Originally posted by TazerIt's not debatable in the slightest.
look at that pic again & this quote from S1M: "But my concentration has to remain on this task until Solaris safely exhausts his fury AND his supply of hydrogen."by that comment, we're led to believe that he had to maintain THAT task, and THAT task ONLY.
now if U wanna put forward that he couldve done something else while maintaining his FV, then fine, but then U also have to admit that Kyle *couldve* held Solaris (problematic as it was) until its supply of was exhausted by himself (seeing as how theres no indication of his construct weakening.)
as I said b4, its a debatable point
Look again:
hmm
-Kyle:
"It's bending my head Batman!"
"I don't know if I can keep it together guys, I'm fraying at the edges!"
"I need HELP out here, I'm holding the Sun in my hands!"
KYLE NEEDED HELP!
He said so himself.....
Then....
-Superman 1M arrives:
"My force-vision will serve to cement your plasma bottle, but my concentration has to remain on this task until Solaris safely exhausts his supply of Oxygen."
Not only did Kyle apparently need help, but it would seem as though Superman 1M could have beaten Solaris once he applied his force-vision to Kyle's construct:
Superman was capable of beating Solaris once the FV was implemented.
How is this even debatable?
Originally posted by TazerPlease show us a feat where an incomplete GL ring has done the same... 😄
uhhh, as I recall he had an Else-Men-created-but-still-incomplete 'gog to accomplish that feat; it was FAR MORE than a tiny fraction, when he then gave up to Metron.perhaps U wanna find another feat??
Yo.
Originally posted by Galan007
It's not debatable in the slightest.Not only did Kyle apparently need help, but it would seem as though Superman 1M could have beaten Solaris once he applied his force-vision to Kyle's construct:
again I'll re-re-state: not being sure of the ability to do something isnt the same as not being able to do it.
and if S1M needed to put all of his concentration into the FV, watELSE could he have done b4 that was accomplished?
answer: likely nothing.
Originally posted by Galan007
Please show us a feat where an incomplete GL ring has done the same... 😄
sure, when U show me where a TINY FRACTION of the 'gog stopped a Big Bang. 🤣
Tazer
Originally posted by TazerThat's your opinion.
again I'll re-re-state: not being sure of the ability to do something isnt the same as not being able to do it.and if S1M needed to put all of his concentration into the FV, watELSE could he have done b4 that was accomplished?
Kyle himself said he needed HELP.
IMO it doesn't get more cut and dry then that.
But whatever.... srug
Originally posted by TazerHourman #13 I believe it was.
sure, when U show me where a TINY FRACTION of the 'gog stopped a Big Bang.
Hourman gave up all but a small part of the Worlogog in Hourman #1.
He never regained a complete Worlogog at ANY point during the story.
So again,
When has an incomplete GL ring done anything to that degree?
Stop dancing around the question please. 😄
Yo.
Originally posted by Galan007
That's your opinion.Kyle himself said he needed HELP.
IMO it doesn't get more cut and dry then that.
But whatever.... srug
its yur opinion against mine on the matter then, fine by me.
Originally posted by Galan007
Hourman #13 I believe it was.Hourman gave up all but a small part of the Worlogog in Hourman #1.
He never regained a complete Worlogog at ANY point during the story.
So again,
When has an incomplete GL ring done anything to that degree?
Stop dancing around the question please. 😄
I never claimed he *did*, but U claimed he had the "TINY FRACTION" quite a few times, did U not??
I said I hadnt seen anything the 'gog do, that I didnt think a GL-ring couldnt. I said I wasnt even sure we'd seen it use its full power. I asked for a feat, and U provided 1 that as luck would have it HAD been matched.
now Im still waiting 4 something else, since THAT apparently doesnt sit too well with ya. isnt there ANY OTHER FEAT U can provide??
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer👆
its yur opinion against mine on the matter then, fine by me.
Originally posted by TazerI don't need to mention any other feats.
I never claimed he *did*, but U claimed he had the "TINY FRACTION" quite a few times, did U not??I said I hadnt seen anything the 'gog do, that I didnt think a GL-ring couldnt. I said I wasnt even sure we'd seen it use its full power. I asked for a feat, and U provided 1 that as luck would have it HAD been matched.
now Im still waiting 4 something else, since THAT apparently doesnt sit too well with ya. isnt there ANY OTHER FEAT U can provide?
Hourman with a small piece of a complete Worlogog's power, stopped the Big Bang of a Universe.
So once again,
Show me one instance where an incomplete GL ring has done something on that scale.
If you can't, then just say so. 😕
Yo.
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't need to mention any other feats.Hourman with a small piece of a complete Worlogog's power, stopped the Big Bang of a Universe.
Show me one instance where an incomplete GL ring has done something on that scale.
If you can't, then just say so. 😕
1st U have to show that Hourman only used that "small piece of a complete Worlogog" to do that feat.
we know he had that FAR BIGGER 'gog on him, but if U can show that he used the MUCH SMALLER piece, U have yur point.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
1st U have to show that Hourman only used that "small piece of a complete Worlogog" to do that feat.we know he had that FAR BIGGER 'gog on him, but if U can show that he used the MUCH SMALLER piece, U have yur point.
Hourman #1...
Hourman gave up all but a fraction of the Worlogog's power, and spread the rest of it's power throughout the timelines:
Fast forward a few issues...
Hourman 1M stops the Big Bang of a Universe, by freezing it in time:
Keep in mind that Hourman NEVER regained the full power of the Worlogog, he always had just a piece of it's power.
Now it's time to see an incomplete GL ring doing something on a similar scale... 😄
Originally posted by TazerI did. 😕
plz respond to my previous post
Incase you missed it....
Hourman #1...
Hourman gave up all but a fraction of the Worlogog's power, and spread the rest of it's power throughout the timelines:
Fast forward a few issues...
Hourman 1M stops the Big Bang of a Universe, by freezing it in time:
Keep in mind that Hourman NEVER regained the full power of the Worlogog, he always had just a piece of it's power.
Now it's time to see an incomplete GL ring doing something on a similar scale... 😄
Yo.
no, I meant this:
"1st U have to show that Hourman only used that "small piece of a complete Worlogog" to do that feat.
we know he had that FAR BIGGER 'gog on him, but if U can show that he used the MUCH SMALLER piece, U have yur point."
that was the claim U made right? all Im asking is that U plz respond to it.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.no, I meant this:
"[b]1st U have to show that Hourman only used that "small piece of a complete Worlogog" to do that feat.
we know he had that FAR BIGGER 'gog on him, but if U can show that he used the MUCH SMALLER piece, U have yur point.
"that was the claim U made right? all Im asking is that U plz respond to it.
Tazer [/B]
HM gave up most of it's power so he only had a small piece to use . . .
