Should dogs, cats, or horses be sold as food

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
By whom? Don't make random claims without backing.
Meat isn't necessary.

As long as you're cool with anemia due to lack of Vitamin B-12. Meat is necessary for a normal diet, just not in the huge amounts that your average American consumes. It is shown that a daily consumption of 4-6 oz of meat is necessary for a healthy diet.

These random claims come from my Biology textbook and also my Physical Anthropology textbook.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
My fragmented sentences are not the point here. It has been shown that protein is more readily absorbed from meat when compared to eating vegetarian substitutes like soy or tofu. The fact that vegetarians have to be careful and make sure they are getting plenty of iron, protein, Vitamins D and B-12, calcium, zinc and other nutrients, shows why meat is an essential part to the human diet, since we are omnivores after all.

Edit: B-12, which is obtained exclusively by eating animals (although synthetic supplements are available, but they aren't as efficiently asorbed as natural B-12) is especially important since B-12 deficiency can cause anemia and nerve damage.

Feel free to stop making up bs anytime soon.

Vegetarians exist, this very fact proves that meat is not an essential part of everyday life. Not all vegetarians are anemic, I'm not sure who wrote that book of yours, possibly Fisher Price.

-AC

Originally posted by AngryManatee
As long as you're cool with anemia due to lack of Vitamin B-12. Meat is necessary for a normal diet, just not in the huge amounts that your average American consumes. It is shown that a daily consumption of 4-6 oz of meat is necessary for a healthy diet.

These random claims come from my Biology textbook and also my Physical Anthropology textbook.

Dude lack of iron is the major cause of anemia not low vitamin b-12, that could be a cause however it's not the major factor.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
As long as you're cool with anemia due to lack of Vitamin B-12.

B12 is in dairy, and can be taken in supplement form.

Originally posted by AngryManatee

Meat is necessary for a normal diet, just not in the huge amounts that your average American consumes.

You just made that up, didn't you?

Originally posted by AngryManatee

It is shown that a daily consumption of 4-6 oz of meat is necessary for a healthy diet.

By whom? I know lots of people that are healthy despite not eating meat.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

Highly debatable.

Proteins are made of amino acids. Suspect!

Go on...

You want to debate that meat isn't good for you? Certain meats and especially the ways some meat is processed isn't good for you (e.g. bacon), but meat in it's basic form is good for the human body as we are designed to eat meat.

Yes, I was just naming things off the top of my head that meat contains.

e.g. if you want protein, than meat has more of it than a bundle of carrots; not saying you HAVE to and can only get protein from meat, but it's readily there. Now, I can eat a jar of peanut butter and get more protein than a filet mignon; that doesn't mean I should or need to substitute.

Originally posted by Robtard
You want to debate that meat isn't good for you? Certain meats and especially the ways meat is processed isn't good for you (i.e. bacon), but meat in it's basic form is good for the human body as we are designed to eat meat.

Yes, I was just naming things off the top of my head that meat contains.

e.g. if you want protein, than meat has more of it than a bundle of carrots; not saying you HAVE to and can only get protein from meat, but it's readily there. Now, I can eat a jar of peanut butter and get more protein than a filet mignon; that doesn't mean I should or need to substitute.

Meat = saturated fat = more calories and significantly greater chance of cardiovascular disease.

By the way bacon isn't nec a processed meat either, it's cured not "processed."

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Feel free to stop making up bs anytime soon.

Vegetarians exist, this very fact proves that meat is not an essential part of everyday life.

-AC

It is essential if you want to lead a normal everyday life. As I said before, why do you think vegetarians have to regulate their diet so carefully in order to make sure they obtain necessary amounts of nutrients?

Originally posted by Robtard
You want to debate that meat isn't good for you?

Certain meats and especially the ways meat is processed isn't good for you (i.e. bacon), but meat in it's basic form is good for the human body as we are designed to eat meat.

So I take it you eat all your meat straight off the carcass, as designed.

Originally posted by Robtard
You want to debate that meat isn't good for you? Certain meats and especially the ways meats are processed aren't good for you, but meat in it's basic form is good for the human body as we are designed to eat meat.

Yes, I was just naming things off the top of my head that meat contains.

e.g. if you want protein, than meat has more of it than a bundle of carrots; not saying you HAVE to and can only get protein from meat, but it's readily there. Now, I can eat a jar of peanut butter and get more protein than a filet mignon; that doesn't mean I should or need to substitute.

Meat in its basic form? Raw meat isn't good for you, and meat that people eat commonly actually rots in your stomach.

Amino acids are what protein is made of, no need to name them both.

Where is all this bs coming from of "It's readily there."? What does that mean? It's readily anywhere in any form if you look. For those who want it in other forums, it's not some arduous task to acquire it.

-AC

Originally posted by Soleran
Meat = saturated fat = more calories and significantly greater chance of cardiovascular disease.

saturated fat= cheese. What do you think lean meat is?

Originally posted by AngryManatee
It is essential if you want to lead a normal everyday life. As I said before, why do you think vegetarians have to regulate their diet so carefully in order to make sure they obtain necessary amounts of nutrients?

It's not essential, you fool. What are you talking about?

ANY human should regulate their diet, the fact that some people do so carefully means they are more sensible, and probably more healthier than you.

Guzzling down meat because it's "easier" means nothing.

-AC

When it comes to eating mammals; it's best to stick to herbivores for taste purposes.

Originally posted by Soleran
Meat = saturated fat = more calories and significantly greater chance of cardiovascular disease.

By the way bacon isn't nec a processed meat either, it's cured not "processed."

Like I said, not all meat is great.

*** for tat... Look up the definition of 'Processed' ad you'll find:

"to subject to a special process or treatment"

So is anybody going to prove that meat is essential?

Prove, not say, and it's not about "I just choose to eat meat.".

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
So I take it you eat all your meat straight off the carcass, as designed.

No, that was WAY back in the day, cooked meat is easier to digest, gotta love evolution and adaptation.

I'm curious, do you think our teeth and intestinal tract are designed not to process meat?

Originally posted by Robtard
No, that was WAY back in the day, cooked meat is easier to digest, gotta love evolution and adaptation.

Yeah. Think that one through to its conclusion.

Originally posted by Robtard

I'm curious, do you think our teeth and intestinal tract are designed not to process meat?

Hair is designed to keep me warm, but I still wear a coat when it's cold.

Cos you've gotta love evolution and adaptation.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Meat in its basic form? Raw meat isn't good for you, and meat that people eat commonly actually rots in your stomach.

Amino acids are what protein is made of, no need to name them both.

Where is all this bs coming from of "It's readily there."? What does that mean? It's readily anywhere in any form if you look. For those who want it in other forums, it's not some arduous task to acquire it.

-AC

I didn't say raw, I said basic, like a slab of cooked venison. Meat rots in peoples stomachs? That must be some seriously slow digestion.

Yea, I agreed and covered that above... Point for you anyways!

B.S.? How so... and if you don't understand "readily there" I don't know how else to break it down... If you want protein, meat is a great source of it, I never said the ONLY source. I didn't say it was an arduous task.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not essential, you fool. What are you talking about?

ANY human should regulate their diet, the fact that some people do so carefully means they are more sensible, and probably more healthier than you.

Guzzling down meat because it's "easier" means nothing.

-AC

So people who regulate their diet carefully are more sensible? That's the stupidest thing I've heard yet. They have to regulate it so carefully because of the possibility of nutritional deficiencies due to the lack of nutrients they aren't getting from just eating a small (4-6 oz) amount of meat.

I never said anything about guzzling down meat. I only said that a small portion is essential to being naturally healthy.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I only said that a small portion is essential to being naturally healthy.

False

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Yeah. Think that one through to its conclusion.

Hair is designed to keep me warm, but I still wear a coat when it's cold.

Cos you've gotta love evolution and adaptation.

Well, as to date our teeth and intestinal tracts are still designed to breakdown and process meat, think that one through...

Are you a vegetarian or a non-meat eater?