Ha, would you really want to give Davy a hug though? With all those tentacles? Talk about slime.
I don't know why, but Beckett isn't quite evil enough for me. Maybe I like my villains to be diabolical and sadistic. He's cunning, he's short, but he doesn't mame, kill or even kick fluffy bunnies. I'm hoping he'll prove me wrong in Awe. Moreover, he doesn't have an evil chuckle. He can't even crack a quasi-vicious smile. He's a very restrained super villain.
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of the main group of protagonists when Willo was talking about someone being in the Locker.
I think that Beckett might deserve the Locker, simply because he may not be physically harming anybody (since he has Mercer to do that), but the fact that he would order it to happen makes him pretty vicious. He's similar to Jack in that he bargains with people's lives and he's fabulous at manipulating people, but unlike Jack, he doesn't have the higher purpose of planning to save everyone at the end of the day.
I adore Beckett and his snarkiness, his smirk, and his boots. 😉 I bet he does kick fluffy bunnies, but he doesn't let anyone see him. 😛
"Who? All of them, or only a few? My guess is that you're thinking Elizabeth deserves to be in the locker. Is that correct? Or are you also thinking of Norrington? What actions define punishment as great as the locker, in your opinion? I'm curious as to how you would define it. It seems you are more sympathetic with Jack though of all the characters, he's not necessarily led the life of inherrent nobility."-----savvysparrow.
The thing is, I can't really define what I'm asking. If everyone is a traitor, then everyone deserves some kind of suffering that's more severe than what they've already gone through, almost like a hell on earth scenario. That's probably what the big battle will be like, but as far as specific people were concerned, I would put Barbossa in the Locker, especially since he's going to betray them all again, and depending on how they work with Norrington at first, I'd put him in there, too. Not for very long because I think he will regret taking the heart. Liz? Hmm, as much as I love that kiss, she does need to be punished for doing it. Hopefully Will's coldness to her and Jack's inability to deal with her at first will be psychological punishment, but she hasn't had to sacrifice anything or really make herself vulnerable yet.
Now everyone thinks I'm this punishment-Nazi that's out to get everyone. I just think some more suffering is part of a lot of these people's characters arcs.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
Is there any symbolism to the name Black Pearl? I always figured somewhere there would be. The most I can come up with is that a black pearl would be a very rare thing to find and may not be everyone's cup of tea, but has a beauty all its own. That certainly fits the ship itself and its captain.
well, and in the pacific black pearls are/were considered more valuable than white pearls because they were more rare and only found in certain places. you had to basically risk your life to dive down and get them.
I don't know if I would put Norrington in the Locker, even if he stole the heart. The reason for this, I think, is because he's already been suffering for months, and he makes a poor decision based on a lack of information, not because he hates everybody.
I think that he figured the crew of the Dutchman would go after him, take the chest, and leave the others alone. He has no idea about Jack's deal with Davy, or that the Kraken is after him specifically because of said deal. For all James knows, the reason DJ is pissed at Jack is because Jack is going after the heart as well.
I think in the beginning of AWE, James will be trying to ignore what kind of person he's working for, simply because he doesn't want to believe that his actions were wrong.
As for Liz, I don't think I'd put her in the locker either, because she's already suffering. She's suffering from the loss of her friend, from the loss of her fiance, and from a loss of self. She almost can't bear who she has become, and when she finds out there is a way to redeem herself by righting the wrong that she's done, she jumps at it, determined, perhaps, to prove to herself that she's a good person after all.
I think Davy probably deserves the locker, mainly because his job is to take care of those who perish in the seas, and he fails miserably at it because some woman ditched him. He's not remotely repentant, like Norrington seems to be, and I don't think DJ would try to regain his honor like Elizabeth or James.
Will...I don't know. He'll be driven into some pretty dark places in AWE, but again, I think he'll be repentant enough that punishment in the locker would not be appropriate.
However, all the characters are going to suffer for the choices that they make, and for some it will be a huge burden to carry until they find the appropriate time and place to redeem themselves. I'm glad Ted and Terry allow the characters to deal with the unpleasant consequences of their actions, instead of just brushing poor choices under the rug and ignoring them. It makes the characters much more human. 😄
Hee hee, I'm glad you didn't get mad at me for at least imagining Norrie in the Locker, sailor. After much thought, I've decided he doesn't need to be there.
They all are suffering right now, I agree. But I think it's going to escalate. Davy definitely belongs there. He's not this sweetie-pie deep down. Losing his love is no excuse to start picking up sailors and making them slaves. Davy's a bastard and I look forward to seeing Jack kill him.
I guess I'm done with this thread. I never knew exactly what I was asking anyway, lol.