In God We Trust

Started by Strangelove12 pages

Originally posted by FeceMan
Doesn't matter. It wouldn't fly today.

Again, we're talking about the original intent.

Yes, it does. It shows how the "wall of separation" was meant to be.

And how do you perceive that the wall of separation "supposed to be"? Granted there's the fact that you have really no idea what the original intent actually was. Thomas Jefferson wasn't the only founder of America

And how do you perceive that the wall of separation "supposed to be"?

By the actions of the early government regarding it--it would have been best understood then.

Originally posted by FeceMan
when there was a Bible shortage due to the Revolutionary War?

This struck me as really fcuking funny.

too lazy to read 7 pages, and i have no clue if anyone else has stated this but...:

I am an atheist, but i'm not bothered by the "in god we trust" because I've never seen it as a religious thing. It's kinda just saying we are one, we all look towards the same thing, whether(sp) its god or w/e

NEWSWEEK poll: 91% of American's believe in God.

"A belief in God and an identification with an organized religion are widespread throughout the country, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. Nine in 10 (91 percent) of American adults say they believe in God and almost as many (87 percent) say they identify with a specific religion. Christians far outnumber members of any other faith in the country, with 82 percent of the poll’s respondents identifying themselves as such. Another 5 percent say they follow a non-Christian faith, such as Judaism or Islam. Nearly half (48 percent) of the public rejects the scientific theory of evolution; one-third (34 percent) of college graduates say they accept the Biblical account of creation as fact."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17879317/site/newsweek/

Guess it really is a Christian nation for the most part, and one that certainly has no problems with "In God We Trust" or "One nation, under God."

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But the power which has always started the greatest religious and political avalanches in history rolling has from time to immemorial been the magic of power of the spoken word, and that alone.

Particularly the broad masses of the people can be moved only by the power of speech.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Britain's is "Dieu et mon droit"-God and my right
England's is the same.
Scotland's is "Nemo me impune lacessit"-No one provokes me with impunity.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Britain's is "Dieu et mon droit"-God and my right
England's is the same.
Scotland's is "Nemo me impune lacessit"-No one provokes me with impunity.

I had so often sung 'Deutschland u:ber Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Oh God, why is this guy spamming every single thread ? He spams more than I do

Originally posted by sithsaber408
NEWSWEEK poll: 91% of American's believe in God.

"A belief in God and an identification with an organized religion are widespread throughout the country, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. Nine in 10 (91 percent) of American adults say they believe in God and almost as many (87 percent) say they identify with a specific religion. Christians far outnumber members of any other faith in the country, with 82 percent of the poll’s respondents identifying themselves as such. Another 5 percent say they follow a non-Christian faith, such as Judaism or Islam. Nearly half (48 percent) of the public rejects the scientific theory of evolution; one-third (34 percent) of college graduates say they accept the Biblical account of creation as fact."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17879317/site/newsweek/

Guess it really is a Christian nation for the most part, and one that certainly has no problems with "In God We Trust" or "One nation, under God."

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The fact that a large majority of Americans are Christian does not make it a Christian nation. France is overwhelmingly populated by Christians, and it's one of the most secular countries in the world. Same for Ireland. Same for Germany.

91% is a pretty big majority, Love.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
91% is a pretty big majority, Love.
So might makes right? Majority rules and screw everyone else? I think not.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
NEWSWEEK poll: 91% of American's believe in God.

"A belief in God and an identification with an organized religion are widespread throughout the country, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. Nine in 10 (91 percent) of American adults say they believe in God and almost as many (87 percent) say they identify with a specific religion. Christians far outnumber members of any other faith in the country, with 82 percent of the poll’s respondents identifying themselves as such. Another 5 percent say they follow a non-Christian faith, such as Judaism or Islam. Nearly half (48 percent) of the public rejects the scientific theory of evolution; one-third (34 percent) of college graduates say they accept the Biblical account of creation as fact."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17879317/site/newsweek/

Guess it really is a Christian nation for the most part, and one that certainly has no problems with "In God We Trust" or "One nation, under God."

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Another point: Jews and Muslims believe in god, I'm sure they're part of that 91%. So it doesn't translate into a Christian nation

Originally posted by Strangelove
So might makes right? Majority rules and screw everyone else? I think not.

i never implied that, i was just noting the numbers.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i never implied that, i was just noting the numbers.
Majority means nothing, really. America is a nation that claims to emulate equality, and as long as there are people who don't believe in God, or perhaps believe in different God(s), America will not be a "Christian nation." Because we are equal.

well, i have my own set of beliefs based on personal experiences. nothing anyone says or shows me will sway me from these. even if i turn out to be the only guy in the world with these set of beliefs, i will stick with them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well, i have my own set of beliefs based on personal experiences. nothing anyone says or shows me will sway me from these. even if i turn out to be the only guy in the world with these set of beliefs, i will stick with them.
Same here 😎

"In Strangelove we trust."......has a nice ring to it. 😂

Originally posted by Strangelove
The fact that a large majority of Americans are Christian does not make it a Christian nation. France is overwhelmingly populated by Christians, and it's one of the most secular countries in the world. Same for Ireland. Same for Germany.

"In God we trust" does not indicate which god they are placing trust in. Many Muslims will refer to Allah as God, as do many Hindus (One God but many faces). Baha'i faith also recognises a the term God to mean the supreme being of the universe, for it to be a Christian only motto then it would have to say, "In the Father We Trust," Or "In Christ we trust."

And may I say, "Out of many, one" is a grammatical nightmare, the translation is, "One from many" or "One out of many"

in buddha we trust doesnt sound right.