Asajj Ventress vs. Tholme

Obsession Asajj, Tholme in his prime. I know Asajj would win but Count Makashi doesn't think so so I made this thread to prove him wrong. Lets see... Tholme uses Makashi, got pwnd by Dooku, got pwnd by Sora, but he did keep his dueling skills up more than most Jedi in the Order (stated by Dooku) and he did kick some ass during the Clone Wars. Now about Asajj, she was beating Sian Jeisel, K'Kruhk and Rhad, 3 on 1 (though that does seem a little unrealistic, even for Obsession Aajj, to be able to do that), she was beating Kenobi and Zule Xiss 2 on 1 just a few months after AOTC, she beat Kit Fisto, beat J'ai Maruk, has killed 19 Jedi during her life time, was one of Dooku's strongest and most loyal Dark Side Acolytes, and was even pwning Anakin, just 6 months before ROTS, before Anakin went beserk and used the Dark Side on her ass 9she's the one who gave him the scar next to his eye). Plus she's younger, more energetic, and won't tire as quickly.

I say Asajj wins this comfortably, possibly even pwns Tholme.

Tholme is a master Jedi swordsman, even respected by Count Dooku, who has Anzati training and can hold his own to Sora Bulq.

Asajj loses. Hard.

Are you kidding? Bulq pwnd Tholme and I'm pretty sure Dooku was mocking him. I highly doubt Tholme would pwn Asajj or win at all. If he could own Asajj then he could beat ROTS Anakin, too.

Asajj wins this. Tholme is good, but there's nothing that ¡ makes me think he could beat her

Dooku was handling Tholme well, yes. However, Dooku crushes Ventress without any effort. And at no point did Sora 'pwn' Tholme in their two battles. Actually see Tholme fight.

Tholme would lose, but he would put up a tough fight. But he wouldn't present much of a challenge to Assaj, I don't think.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Dooku was handling Tholme well, yes. However, Dooku crushes Ventress without any effort. And at no point did Sora 'pwn' Tholme in their two battles. Actually see Tholme fight.

And Dooku pwns Tholme, too.

That's major pwnage, asajj during the beginning of the Clone Wars lasted round 30 seconds against Dooku and Obsession Asajj if FAR stronger than she was at the beginning of the Clone Wars. She was even pwning Anakin just 6 months before ROTS until Anakin used the Dark Side to beat her.

Tholme also got beat bad by two Morgukai Warriors (though 1 got a surprise hit on him). Asajj takes this, I mean she was only really one step below Anakin and Obi-Wan by Obsession.

No, they engage in an actual fight, which Sora wins, and the fight's apparently long enough for Quin to kill Skorr.

And those two Morgukai were elite fighters....and yes, one of them got in a surprise hit on Tholme when he was fighting Tsyr.

It's heavily implied in the first two panels that Sora was toying with Tholme, it's pretty clear Tholme was no match for him (FTR I'm a big Tholme fan).

And as powerful as Morgukai seemingly are, they're no jedi, and Asajj has shown the ability to toy with large numbers of jedi.

BTW Lightsnake, do you know which year the Marvel comics featuring Lumiya were released?

Ventress might lose.

No, they engage in an actual fight, which Sora wins, and the fight's apparently long enough for Quin to kill Skorr.

Pretty close...

He does no 'do so in no time', they are shown to engage at the late stages of issue 76 to early 77. Time in pictures does not mean real times DS

Originally posted by Lightsnake
He does no 'do so in no time', they are shown to engage at the late stages of issue 76 to early 77. Time in pictures does not mean real times DS

If Vos is really that far ahead of Skorr then the battle can't have lasted more than a minute and it's doubtful that it lasted that long even.

Plus, look here:

If he can really beat Tol Skorr and Kadrian Sey 2 on one so quickly, then I'd be very surprised if Skorr alone lasted even 30 seconds against him. 20 seems more right, and Tholme went down just as quickly. Honestly, read the text between Dooku and that person in the hologram, that's how long it taked Quin to take both down at once. I timed myself reading it. 28.9 seconds. For both of them. Skorr alone would go down quicker than that.

Ventress might lose.

Stop posting the pictures, I have the comics. Several times, Skorr and Vos are shown to be on very close terms and killed Sey because she was attacking Shinte and not expecting Vos to turn on her, bad example.

By the way, that was a test fight, bad example and totally irrelevant. There's nothing in Asajj's repetoire hinting she can take a Jedi master of Tholme's level

I agree and if Asajj wins against Tholme it wont be easy.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Stop posting the pictures, I have the comics. Several times, Skorr and Vos are shown to be on very close terms and killed Sey because she was attacking Shinte and not expecting Vos to turn on her, bad example.

By the way, that was a test fight, bad example and totally irrelevant. There's nothing in Asajj's repetoire hinting she can take a Jedi master of Tholme's level

Skorr is close to Vos after viewing those two fights? I beg for proof.

I'm not talking about when he killed Sey I am talking about when he fought Sey and Skorr at the same time, where did I ever mention Sey's death? Look at what I posted before you respond.

Proof that it was a test fight?

And, as previously stated, Asajjwas beating Anakin just 6 months before ROTS, which puts her not far behind ROTS Anakin. Proof that Tholme is that strong?

Originally posted by darthsith19
if you have the comic then you'd better read them again to refresh your memory because obviously you can't remember them very well.

Skorr is close to Vos after viewing those two fights? I beg for proof.

And, as previously stated, Asajjwas beating Anakin just 6 months before ROTS, which puts her not far behind ROTS Anakin. Proof that Tholme is that strong?

Originally posted by darthsith19
[BAnd, as previously stated, Asajjwas beating Anakin just 6 months before ROTS, which puts her not far behind ROTS Anakin. Proof that Tholme is that strong? [/B]

What, ROTS Anakin would destroy her with ease, he would ultimate mega super pwn her, rape her to, if he didn't get it from Padme.