Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No idea. I'd guess Alex at this point. From what Mr. Masters has been saying, Alex may be uber abstract level. 🤨 God damn Summers family..... 😆
Yeah, merged with the Nexus of Realties, he had omniversal power.
and Roma is the omniversal guardian, Meryln is up there. And the sword & amulet of right have been said tobe able to re-shape the omniverse
so i'd thought it'd be an interesting idea, worked in some fashion since nobody really knows their level but it seems close, LOL.
Originally posted by Ethereal
Alex w/NOR vs Meryln w/ Amulet of Right.yeah ... just felt like throwing one out here
Merlyn hasn't had the Amulet of Right since back in the day.
He gave it to Captain Britain many years ago,
the Sword of Might went to Joshua Stragg.
Merlyn's draws his power from the Energy Matrix.
The Energy Matrix is a source of energy that manifests when the Interface Alignment took place.
The Interface Alignment is when a series of Interfaces across the Multiverse aligned perfectly to create a Matrix of unimaginable power.
This alignment would only last a short moment, and thus was never able to be tapped.
There was a central Tower (in Reality 616) where the Interface passed through, but in order to keep the Interfaces Aligned, they needed to have Other Towers in Other Universes.
SO ...
Necrom put Feron (his student) upto the task of controlling the Phoenix Force, so Feron could manipulate the PF into projecting the Tower across the Multiverse VIA the Interface Alignment.
The Energy fields merge on their OWN... and the Interfaces across the Mulitverse Align by themselves...
"AT the moment of ALIGNMENT,
THEN Feron called Phoenix to project the Tower",
it was the Energy Matrix (On it's Own) that allows simultaneous existence in the Multiverse when the Interfaces Across are Aligned, Which Also happens ON it's Own ....
Phoenix made a duplicate of the original Tower and it simultaneously duplicated itself across the Multi-verse because of the Interface Alingment.
This created a consistent Energy Matrix, because the Interfaces were Alingment permanently.
Necrom's plan was to collapse the Energy Matrix to absorb all it's power and become the "God" of all creation.
But instead,
While Necrom and Feron had fought,
MERLYN had JUMPED INTO the Energy Matrix...
He was swept across the Multiverse and was finally able to control the Energy Matrix, without needing to collapse it.
This is Merlyn's very first appearance in a CB title:
"I am the beauty of the green Earth and the white Moon amongst the Stars"
"The mystery of the Waters, and the desire of the Heart of man"
"I am the Soul of Nature who giveth Life to the Universe"
"From me ... ALL Things proceed ... and unto me ... ALL Things must Return"
Energy Matrix empowered Merlyn created a Universe (Otherworld) from scrath.
Otherworld is a Universe, but as grand as a Multiverse:
"I Mastered the Energy Matrix and established Otherworld"
Merlyn created the Starlight Citidel:
"from this venue, the Guardian of Reality can view events on every Plane of the Omniverse"
The Starlight Citidel's defenses can obliterate Universes:
"The Citidel is sentient, a reflection of the Guardian ...
with a defensive array that could EASILY lay waste an entire Dimension"
The Stralight Citidel houses Countless Universes,
Just the HALL in the Starlight Citadel can fit Entire Planets:
"BUT when Her CITADEL FALLS, that impossibly vast Space is suddenly crowded"
"With an inconceivable variety & number of species, as all the Dimensions there are suddenly crash into one"
Merlyn created the Celestial Nullifier, which is within the Citidel:
"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"
"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse ceases to exist"
Necrom was literally collapsing the Multiverse, this was causing Captain Britain to absorb the power of Merlyn's Energy Matrix
Then Meggan, Kitty Pride, Rachel Summers and Night Crawler Merge with Captain Britain to add different abilities to Captain Britain's power.
ONLY Brian has the power of the Matrix, the others add versatility to his power.
"This is all too neat ... it can't be coincidence"
"I know ... we are being Manipulated"
The Energy Matrix gives Brian the power to actually REVERSE the collapse,
he literally Rebuilds the Multiverse
"We have saved the Multiverse"
Guess who Manipulated the whole thing?
With the power of the Energy Matrix, which is what he had,
he could literally Fold the Multiverse, or rebuild it effortlessly,
Brian only had a good portion of the Matrix, and you saw in the scans his capability.
Merlyn allowed Brian to absorb power from His Matrix,
to Merlyn it's all a game, it always has been,
(just to see how events play out)
Since back in the day playing a Chess Game with Roma which was linked to the Life-Force of the Multiverse,
the wrong side loses the game, ... the Multiverse dies, it's as simple as that.
"The Game's disintegrating, but the Multiverse depends upon the GAME"
And this was only a training session for Roma, who was to replace him as Omniversal Guardian.
"Merlin taught you that REALITY is a Grand Game of Chess"
Merlyn manipulated the Multiverse on a Chess Board,
and had other Boards floating around (other Multiverses I presume)
As Merlin and Roma moved their Chess Pieces, Reality is Altered accordingly:
Even Mad Jim Jaspers, (the Omniversal threat) is just One of their Game Pieces.
Roma and Merlyn are the Omniversal guardians
"but you know where she lives right?"
are you demented, you're talking about the next best thing to GOD" (Omniversal Guardian)
They can do with Universes as they wish.
Merlin says,
"I've missed something, I ... of all people"
Roma responds,
"No one is infallible Father, sometimes I think a strong Wind will blow you over"
Merlin replies,
"Ah yes ... but I MAKE the Winds"
In other words, regardless of the peril, he's in charge.
Alex Summers a.k.a. Havok
The Beyonder re-emerges from a state of suspended animation, revived by another "Force" ... this "Force" has merged with him after the "Force" had absorbed a portion of the true Nexus of ALL Realities.
Beyonder reaches into the mind of Captain America and looks into some of his Past,
"A Dimensional Walker? He (Alex) came to this place from another Reality"
"He subdued the Goblin Queen? She is a Force of Universal Nature, How could a Human (Alex)...? Yes ... I see it now.
He (Alex) wields more Power than he could possibly imagine"
So Beyonder realizes it's Alex Summers who contains unimaginable power, and now seeks to find him, in order to take it from him.
Beyonder levitates and mind rapes the World's population then kills everyone:
(Well those that didn't survive the fall atleast)
If Beyonder finds Havok this will br the outcome:
"He will End everything ... the Multiverses ... the Past ... the Present ...
the Yet to Be ... will all be Destroyed"
Can anyone say OMNIVERSE!!!
This isn't just the Beyonder though:
continues in the next post ...
Havok finds out for the first time that the Nexus of Realities resides within him:
"The Nexus of Realities is not just a place ... it is a Force of Nature ...
the Fabric of that which binds ALL Reality together ...
the Nexus transported itself to your body"
Alex has not yet adapted at properly harnessing the energies of the Nexus, so Reed builds a suit for Alex that will draw on the powers of Dr Strange - Mordo and Xavier, to help Alex harness the power of the Nexus:
Alex confronts the Beyonder, and the Beyonder reveals the puppeteer:
The Goblin Queen
The Goblin Queen tries to mind rape the inexperienced Alex:
But Alex fights back, but the Goblin Queen is confident:
"This entire World ... and Countless Others will fall before me"
Havok and the Goblin Queen battle in a different Plane of Reality:
"In the Countless Multiverses you (Alex) alone are unique"
"So much Power in such a small mind ...
we could have Conquered the Multiverses together ... Now I will have to do it alone"
Alex finally adapts to his power by using Dr Strange - Mordo and Xavier to harness the power of the Nexus, Alex absorbs the Goblin Queen into the Nexus erasing her from existence, and then becomes ONE with the Nexus ensuring no one else will ever be able to tap into it's power, save him.
Alex Summers a.k.a. Havok becomes the Nexus of ALL Realities in the Omniverse:
This is NOT Hyperbole.
The series has been kept in continuity for a while and it took the story Years to reach this climatic finality.
Back in 1999, Havok was realizing his Wife Madelyn had been over taken by the Goblin Queen:
This is Canon 616 Havok by the way, that just happens to be in this Alternate Reality:
Dr Strange tells Alex about the Nexus of Realities, while they battle the GQ and her minions in the swamps where the Nexus is located:
Havok tells Strange to teleport himself and the rest of his mates out of there:
To seemingly destroy the Nexus of all Realities:
Havok thought he destroyed the Nexus of all Realities, and Strange danced around the notion, that's because Strange wanted to keep it a secret from Alex and the rest, to essentially protect him, from others that might try to usurp his power that lays latent within him.
Several Years later it ties into this, like I posted earlier.
Strange explaining that moment back in 1999 when Havok thought he destroyed the Nexus, but in fact, the Nexus transported itself into Havok's body:
btw. the Beyonder, Strange, the Ancient One, Reed Richards, Dracula and the Goblin Queen all seemed to agree on Havok and his power.
MultiverseS (plural) was mentioned several times.
Originally posted by invisiblewoman
thats interesting i never knew anything about merlin so he's pretty powerful then?
He's one of the 5 most powerful beings in Marvel, IMO.
That being, (excluding TOAA & THOTI)
1. LT
In no particular order:
Merlyn (Matrix empowered)
Havok (NOAR)
Wanda (HOM)
Captain Britain (Excalibre/Sword of Might and the Amulet of Right)
MJJ can potentially be part of this top 5,
merged with the Fury without doubt.
(considering he has Fury's abilities)
Again, IMO ...
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Interesting......
Indeed. 🙂
Originally posted by invisiblewoman
does he have a respect thread?
Nah,
Merlyn is an obscure character that seldom appears.
If one is not a Captain Britain or Excalibur fan,
there's a good chance you haven't come across him.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Based on feats, Merlyn wins.Based on character potentials due to their power sources, Stalemate.
They can both crush the Omniverse. (theoretically based on Facts)
Thanks. Yeah most of the facts are theoretical. I know mer doesn't have the AoR. I just thought id give it to him. But it seems he didn't need it anyway. 😗 I knew about the Nexus, but once you posted the scans of Alex Summers, I never knew about it absorbing into him and all that.
well up.
Originally posted by Mr Master
He's one of the 5 most powerful beings in Marvel, IMO.That being, (excluding TOAA & THOTI)
1. LT
In no particular order:
Merlyn (Matrix empowered)
Havok (NOAR)
Wanda (HOM)
Captain Britain (Excalibre/Sword of Might and the Amulet of Right)
MJJ can potentially be part of this top 5,
merged with the Fury without doubt.
(considering he has Fury's abilities)
Again, IMO ...
Indeed. 🙂
Nah,
Merlyn is an obscure character that seldom appears.
If one is not a Captain Britain or Excalibur fan,
there's a good chance you haven't come across him.
