GEB vs Merlyn/The Brothers/LT

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So they got their powers reduced from a universe to a Megaverse

Again,

the DC & Marvel Brothers could have been beyond TOAA and the Presence,

and it does NOT matter.

It's a Non-Canon story.

So they can be whatever you want them to be,

a Universe, Multiverse, Omniverse, God, whatever. (It's all fantasy)

The only legit Brothers, are the ones in LT's hand. (a Megaverse each)

I could care less about the DC/Marvel garbage, since they don't exist, and now never existed at all, because the story is Non-Canon.

As are the post-retconned, or wait they're Marvel ... Is X-man adventures 12 cannon?

Originally posted by guy222
Good morning. Who wins the exciting match?wave

No doubt in my mind Merlyn pre retcon brothers and LT takes this without breaking a sweat.

Originally posted by Utrigita
It is non canon of cause because we cannot have such beings running around

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Originally posted by Utrigita
No my point is that they each represented each of there companies blue for Marvel and red for DC ore the other way around.

Non-Canon.

Originally posted by Utrigita
It doesn't really matter, we have seen numorous times that universe can refer to multiverse and so on.

I agree.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I believe that if we take the Omniverse that is today in marvel that would have been One of the brothers since it was basiclly the companies fightning and thus the other would represent everything in DC.

I disagree.

TOAA/God is Marvel, not these Brothers.

The LT and Spectre would never Own TOAA and the Presence,

but LT and Spectre DID OWN these Brothers momentarily:

"The Brothers are MERGING Realities, combining Universes"

(Actually we find out in the Next Issue, that the Living Tribunal and Spectre were the ones that MERGED the TWO Universes BY FORCE!)

When LT and Spectre MERGED the TWO Universes/Brothers, (by Force)

the Brothers became ONE Universe called the Amalgam Universe

(basically a Mixture of BOTH)

"He had thought the MERGING was the DOING of the Brothers, it was NOT"

"because of the War, ONE of the Universes faced being hurled INTO OBLIVION"

"And the Cosmic Guardians ... the Living Tribunal and Spectre,

are HOLDING it ALL TOGETHER" (by Force)

"Their effort Created a Amalgam Universe ... the Brother aren't Happy about it"

The Living Tribunal and Spectre were struggling to keep the Brothers MERGED.

But they still succeeded in doing so: (momentarily)

Catch LT and Spectre trying to do this to TOAA or the Presence 😆

Who ever these Brothers were supposed to be, it sure wasn't TOAA & Presence.

Understand you doesn't get it 😉

Non canon of cause but they still represent each of there companies if believe that was the idea when they first made the entire crossover marvel fighting dc.

I must disagree with you Mister Master as you stated earlier this is non canon so basically they could even be above TOAA and Presence we doesn't know and we will never know.

And we have had this two times no wishes of making it a third time, so to the last part I will just disagree, ore shall we begin posting the same responds as the last two times ore just leave it there that they momentaly ownd the Brothers but when the battle begun was powerless to stop them marvel appendix says so. cheers

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
As are the post-retconned, or wait they're Marvel ...

Nah, T.

The Brothers LT held are Canon.

And it's ALL CANON, according to the OHOTMU v5 (2006)

"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the Twin Entities the BROTHERS,

each of whom became the guardian of a different Megaverse,

within the larger Omniverse but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse"

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Is X-man adventures 12 cannon?

Absolutely, besides the Bio certifying this,

Adventures of the X-Men was an Alternate Reality, in the Marvel Reality:

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]Again,

the DC & Marvel Brothers could have been beyond TOAA and the Presence,

Originally posted by Utrigita
Understand you doesn't get it 😉

Non canon of cause but they still represent each of there companies if believe that was the idea when they first made the entire crossover marvel fighting dc.

I must disagree with you Mister Master as you stated earlier this is non canon so basically they could even be above TOAA and Presence we doesn't know and we will never know.

And we have had this two times no wishes of making it a third time, so to the last part I will just disagree, ore shall we begin posting the same responds as the last two times ore just leave it there that they momentaly ownd the Brothers but when the battle begun was powerless to stop them marvel appendix says so. cheers

Don't leave me out 😛 cheers

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The Brothers wasent aware of them ... Some force just merged them together as they were fighting.
And when finaly the Brothers realized what've happend, they separeated.
The Living Tribunal and Spectre (logoz) couldent even hold back their swords, they were like 2 flies flying around them, in fact they were less, since they didnt notice them.

Tribunal held the Brothers in his hand

Originally posted by Utrigita
Understand you doesn't get it

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Originally posted by Utrigita
Non canon of cause but they still represent each of there companies if believe that was the idea when they first made the entire crossover marvel fighting dc.

In a Non-Canon Reality, sure ... Aunt May could be beyond TOAA.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I must disagree with you Mister Master as you stated earlier this is non canon so basically they could even be above TOAA and Presence we doesn't know and we will never know.

If you understand and believe this is a Non-Canon story, we shouldn't even be taking into consideration anything that's mentioned in this arc.

I'm only giving you fellas info so you won't confuse yourselves.

DC vs Marvel is a Non-Canon garbage of a story.

It contradicts all the Historical elements that have been extablished by Marvel for years.

Like claiming the Brothers were the first entities in existence, bull shit

The first Entity in existence was the Infinity Being, referrenced and stated TWICE On Panel in Official Canon Titles:

Thanos said the (Original) Infinity Being was:

"This Being was the only Living Thing that Existed within Any and ALL Realities"

"ALL That Was and ALL that Was Was it "

Then Thanos says, I wouldn't blame you for calling it "GOD" ...

What other name would fit?

(which makes sense)

"ALL That Was Was already Part of Itself ... there was NO Other in it's Life"

"It chose to put an End to itself ...

from it's Ashes rose ALL That is currently Reality ... in ALL it's many forms"

Diana of the Dark Shoppe (of another Universe) basically tells the same tale:

ALL Official and Canon.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And we have had this two times no wishes of making it a third time, so to the last part I will just disagree, ore shall we begin posting the same responds as the last two times ore just leave it there that they momentaly ownd the Brothers but when the battle begun was powerless to stop them marvel appendix says so.

"Powerless to stop them?"

Yet they only struck each other ONCE after LT and Spectre interrupted their private battle.

Why?

Because LT and Spectre were holding them back.

So your appendix is wrong. 🙁

The Infinity being (Nemessis) isnt even in your Hierarchy, why?
Thanos is not omniscient, there might have existed a creator of the Inifnity being.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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In a Non-Canon Reality, sure ... Aunt May coul be beyond TOAA.

If you understand and believe this is a Non-Canon story, we shouldn't even be taking into consideration anything that's mentioned in this arc.

I'm only giving you fellas info so you won't confuse yourselves.

DC vs Marvel is a Non-Canon garbage of a story.

It contradicts all the Historical elements that have been extablished by Marvel for years.

Like claiming the Brothers were the first entities in existence, bull shit

The first Entity in existence was the Infinity Being, referrenced and stated TWICE On Panel in Official Canon Titles:

Thanos said the (Original) Infinity Being was:

"This Being was the only Living Thing that Existed within Any and ALL Realities"

"ALL That Was and ALL that Was Was it "

Then Thanos says, I wouldn't blame you for calling it "GOD" ...

What other name would fit?

(which makes sense)

"ALL That Was Was already Part of Itself ... there was NO Other in it's Life"

"It chose to put an End to itself ...

from it's Ashes rose ALL That is currently Reality ... in ALL it's many forms"

Diana of the Dark Shoppe (of another Universe) basically tells the same tale:

ALL Official and Canon.

"Powerless to stop them?"

Yet they only struck each other ONCE after LT and Spectre interrupted their private battle.

Why?

Because LT and Spectre were holding them back.

So your appendix is wrong. 🙁

No the first topic is just that the hole story is pointless more ore less, hence the comment we cannot have those beings running around 😉

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

You have told that this side is approved my marvel so 😛

Again I must disagree there is strong profe suggesting that they only stopped to battle because of Batmans and Captain Americans inteference and the Brothers seeing something speciel in them, hence the words "powers are unleashed that none (LT and Spectre) have witness before and the LT and The spectre is awed" I believe that is the way it goes. Pretty much telling me that LT and Spectre where nothing to these guys.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The Brothers wasent aware of them ... Some force just merged them together as they were fighting.

And when finaly the Brothers realized what've happend, they separeated.

I don't where you got that story from, but here are the Facts, again:

"He had thought the MERGING was the DOING of the Brothers, it was NOT"

"because of the War, ONE of the Universes faced being hurled INTO OBLIVION"

"And the Cosmic Guardians ... the Living Tribunal and Spectre,

are HOLDING it ALL TOGETHER" (by Force)

"Their effort Created a Amalgam Universe ... the Brother aren't Happy about it"

LT and Spectre OWNED the Brothers momentarily,

and in fact, had it not been for Access giving LT and Spectre some of the Brothers' own power to them, they wouldn't have been able to release the Brothers without destroying BOTH the Brothers first:

Access placed "SHARDS" (Fragments of the Brothers) within Captain America & Batman, which were still there even in their Archetypes in the ONE Amalgam Universe the Brothers had become.

Access gives Spectre & LT the Power of the "SHARDS" within Bats & Cap to Separate the TWO Universes without destroying then at the same time.

"I'm giving the Living Tribunal access to the Power within You, and we're using it to Restore the Universes"

It works!

"As it had come Together, the Universe that was an Amalgam of TWO Others blows apart"

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The Living Tribunal and Spectre (logoz) couldent even hold back their swords, they were like 2 flies flying around them, in fact they were less, since they didnt notice them.

Those were comments made by Access, who could barely comprehend what the heck he was witnessing.

The reality is,

LT and Spectre were holding the Brothers back, and because of this, the Brothers were only able to strike each other ONCE after LT and Spectre interrupted their battle.

Originally posted by Utrigita
You have told that this side is approved my marvel so

I dispute even Handbook Bios that contradict On Panel evidence friend,

so this means nothing.

Also according to that Bio, Spectre is a joke to LT:

"The Spectre in the DC universe isn't really the equivalent to the Living Tribunal. He is much less powerful and not the guardian of the multiverse. He is actually the embodiment of God's wrath or something."

(towards the bottom, above clarifications)

Do you accept this too? 😉

And for the record Utrigita,

I only accept Bio info that coincides with On Panel evidence,

If there is only one source of proof, then On Panel > Bio.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Again I must disagree there is strong profe suggesting that they only stopped to battle because of Batmans and Captain Americans inteference and the Brothers seeing something speciel in them, hence the words "powers are unleashed that none (LT and Spectre) have witness before and the LT and The spectre is awed" I believe that is the way it goes. Pretty much telling me that LT and Spectre where nothing to these guys.

LT and Spectre were nothing

and somehow LT and Spectre managed to completely WARP both Brothers.

Got it. 😄

The universes was supose to represent the continuities, Marvel and DC.
That's why the Brothers were supreme.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The universes was supose to represent the continuities, Marvel and DC.
That's why the Brothers were supreme.

Not that Supreme,

they were completely Warped/Manipulated by LT and Spectre.

They were going to be destroyed had LT & Spectre not separated them properly.

"Marvel & DC?"

Since when are the companies just One Multiverse each?

How is this possible, Multi-Eternity is the Multiverse.

"represent the continuities, Marvel and DC?"

Where are ALL the other significant Cosmics?

Where is the Omniversal Guardian?

This garbage is full of holes.

Yeah, it might be filled with plot holes ect. But the mening of it, they were meant to represent the companies, they were meant to be supreme, as they power expanded like a function of infinity the Living Tribunal and Spectre become nothing to them.

Marvel = One universe
DC = One universe

Together they're 2 universes, in other words a Multiverse.
Multi means more than one ...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yeah, it might be filled with plot holes ect. But the mening of it, they were meant to represent the companies, they were meant to be supreme,

The story is so terrible they couldn't even keep that in order.

All the major Cosmics were missing, Omniversal Guardians should have been essential to this crap, but even they were forgotten.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
as they power expanded like a function of infinity

Where is it stated that their power expanded?

The "Shards" travelled outwards with the expansion of the Universe, but the "Shards" themselves stayed the same.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
the Living Tribunal and Spectre become nothing to them.

How could they be nothing to them,

when they Warped the Brothers completely, nearly destroying both Brothers?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Marvel = One universe
DC = One universe

Together they're 2 universes, in other words a Multiverse.
Multi means more than one ...

I sincerely believe they meant to make this the DC Reality vs the Marvel Reality,

but they just picked the wrong Writers, or not enough research was done into the History of the Marvel or DC Cosmology.