I agree that Prof is probably the best skilled telepath on such a large level on Marvel Earth. Strange isn't as adept at using tp as X. He wouldn't lose in a tp fight ever (he already mind wiped marvel earth before including X 😈 ), but he's not able to do the intracat things that X can do.
It IS his only power, he better be good at it.
Originally posted by long pig
Yep. Especially the Spectre one.His badassedness isn't limited to industry and corporate boundaries. In fact, he's able to mindrape real world people! Be afraid!
But, yeah-other than beings that don't exist in Marvel- most of those feats I can find a Strange feat that is actually similar. Maybe not without the Eye, but I don't see the problem with him using it...since, ya' know, it's part of him. Can you do the same with your little green turd man? Nooooooooooooo. 😈
Wanna join NAMBLA? droolio
One's that are similar,but don't top them,So Strange doesn't dwarf MM like you would like to think he does.
I can say my little green turd man is now far more powerful then ether before because the Key is awake...
Was a memeber for awhile,didn't work out.
Originally posted by long pig
I agree that Prof is probably the best skilled telepath on such a large level on Marvel Earth.It IS his only power, he better be good at it.
Xavier actually a bit sad when you consider both Strange and MM are better then him at it,but they also have a buttload of other abilities.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
One's that are similar,but don't top them,So Strange doesn't dwarf MM like you would like to think he does.I can say my little green turd man is now far more powerful then ether before because the Key is awake...
Was a memeber for awhile,didn't work out.
I know MM's feats, he's bad ass.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
One's that are similar,but don't top them,So Strange doesn't dwarf MM like you would like to think he does.I can say my little green turd man is now far more powerful then ether before because the Key is awake...
Was a memeber for awhile,didn't work out.
MM is very powerfull and a top tier in fact i have defended him in MM vs. thor and MM vs. superman debates, but against strange i'm not seeing it sorry. I think that MM and x are very similar too in that most of the time they don't cut lose or even put forth the effort they should to take down threats. Like that omac that owned MM, or when despero was practicly raping him. I think an omac shouldn't be anything for MM and that he should of been able to hold his own against despero.
Originally posted by jasofisc
MM is very powerfull and a top tier in fact i have defended him in MM vs. thor and MM vs. superman debates, but against strange i'm not seeing it sorry. I think that MM and x are very similar too in that most of the time they don't cut lose or even put forth the effort they should to take down threats. Like that omac that owned MM, or when despero was practicly raping him. I think an omac shouldn't be anything for MM and that he should of been able to hold his own against despero.
I know Jonn would lose to Strange,but they're Tp is comparable.
Yeah,any time Despero and Jonn throw down Jonn forgets that he can shapeshift,phase or that he has superspeed.
The thing about comparing Xavier and Jonn falls under A+B>A logic. People tend to forget that Martian Manhunter is a shapeshifter of highest order and has some hidden tricks... like stretching his nervous system to boost his telepathy (actually with fully stretched nervous system he looks really weird...like a sentient tree or somthing like that- he did that once to scan entire Earth in shortest time possible), thus he doesn't need any gadgets for powering himself up... Skillwise it comes to who of them is better at improvisation and unorthodox ways of using their TP... MM improvises rarely- but that's because he has skills of his entire race to back him up- with such an experience there's little or no need to invent something new.(Offtopic:being Emma's fangirl, I think that she's actually one of the most creative TP on 616 Earth, if not the most creative- she actually uses her TP in unorthodoxal ways.)
But Jonn and Charles both can be defeated by Strange's mystical telepathy...
Jonn has more skills from the past experience of his entire race. And Xavier has shown more capabilities for improvisation (which isn't such a nessesity for Jonn, as for him "everything was invented before and there's no need to reinvent the trick"😉. Being the last one out of long chain of genetations and posessing all of their skills can be serious burden for one's imagination...
On the other hand, Jonn actually has some unorthodox uses for his TP (like using desires-fulfillment scenario on Despero)
Originally posted by manorastroman
j'onn's mageddon feat is totally stupid PIS. nobody on wonderworld realized that it was just activating the reptilian brain? people on wonderworld have a reptilian portion of the brain?blah. morrison is great for stories, but his feats and interior continuity are pretty poor.
i hate it when observations like this go unobserved. 🙁
Originally posted by manorastroman
i hate it when observations like this go unobserved. 🙁
Jonn has feats that equal or exceed that so i doubt it's Pis.
Also Earth only knew about the R-complex because of Animal mans connection to the red,and wonder world was solely populated by people so there'd be no reptile to be observed.
Originally posted by starlock
Oh boy, i see someone who likes to argue just for the fun of it hehe
That's me 🙂
Originally posted by starlock
I dont need to read the scan i own the comic,Xavier did not take down the phoenix-there i said itSorry if the Xavier fans are dissapointed( i like xavier), but the psychic circut breakers xavier created were gone the instant phoenix manifest again in the next comic,so why did the circut breakers fail? i thought xavier took her down? why? because jean helped him
XAVIER " would..have lost--but i sensed jean..fighting her phoenix self...HELPING ME...
Bless you child i am so proud of you"Whats to debate he had help,i am not trying to put down xavier ,i am just being fair
I really can't respond to this any other way other than saying...........
Originally posted by willRules
I'm not saying Phoenix couldn't beat him or Jean didn't help all I'm saying is that Xavier took down Phoenix which is true. If Jean really wanted to she could destroy the whole planet but deep down she has feelings for the X-men which keep her in check, plus she chose to take on Xavier in the psychic realm, not a physical battle otherwise Chuck would be screwed whereas Xavier is a Master of the psychic realm. ✅Nonetheless how many telepaths can say they have taken down Phoenix?
I have just updated X-Man telepathy feats.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/409506_5-nate-grey-x-man-respect-thread
I covered just about everything important regarding Nate.
As for the topic.
We have seen plenty of characters from earth, (humans, and mutants) surpassing Xavier.
The most powerful telepath or mind, would simply be a false title for Xavier.
Originally posted by id369
I have just updated X-Man telepathy feats.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/409506_5-nate-grey-x-man-respect-threadI covered just about everything important regarding Nate.
As for the topic.
We have seen plenty of characters from earth, (humans, and mutants) surpassing Xavier.The most powerful telepath or mind, would simply be a false title for Xavier.
I agree but I feel that Xavier is vastly underrated on these forums ✅
besides maybe x-man (when he became shaman that was a differnt earth), cable (godlike) and dr. strange I don't thing their is anybody as powerful in the tp catagory then prof. x people mention moon dragon, jean (non phonix) and emma frost but he has done everything they have done he's just such a pancy he doesn't do it all the time. and he's done something that no other TP user has done that is make a skyfather level or sub skyfatherlevel being from his TP. Yeah that was all x his tp just simulated the powers of mags, since mags was fine after being mind raped and x never absorbed mags. so yeah any other tp do that. I didn't think so and yes x has affected worlds before just like moon dragon when the x-men traveled back in time he linked gal with 10 billion skrulls on a planet he wasn't even on and he was greatly weakened at the time.