Darkseid versus Marvel Villains

Originally posted by UniOmni
I love how this one scan is being used to supply Darkseid with the win, when it's been retconned into never actually happened.

These lone feats of reality manipulation don't count, since due to Zero Hour, this never occurred.

And Darkseid is subject to retcons, as is any other character.

He can win some, but it won't be due to feats that actually never happened.

And he won't be mindraping Juggy due to the helmet, and Magneto and Doom both have willpowers that allow them to resist high level tp.

Their consistent record against tp > Darkseid using tp in an arc that's never happened.

LOL. DS still has reality manip. ANd it's even on a higher lvl than in GDS. In Seven Soldiers he creates actual realities. Mister Miracle also comments that no one has TP that can match DS's own. DS doesn't need to Mind Rape Juggs. He is strong enough to one punch him into the sun. Or just Turn him into an invulnerable new born with the OE. Magneto and Doom are so done for. Neither have a prayer of resisting DS Tp. Even if the could, DS can just turn the Rocks into Giant Monsters and pummel them. But he's strong enough to literally crush them under his heal. He's back handed Superman So many times, I doubt either of these two will be surviving a full on physical attack from DS. DS has never been retconned. He's still the DS from Precrisis. He is subject to retconns. But it hasn't happened yet. So all of his abilities in the GDS saga are still valid. He still zaps Other beings and takes thier power and adds it to his own. Proof? highfather, jove, Zeus, ares, heracles all had to combine into one being to fight DS. These guys are done for. Thanos can beat them all to hell so I know DS would truly obliterate them.

Celestials are more powerful than DS, if Doom can use the celestial tech correctly he can take it. There is the magic and cytorraks gem to help the matters, Is not impossible ta win, but none of the guys can overpower DS.

Originally posted by Bentley
Celestials are more powerful than DS, if Doom can use the celestial tech correctly he can take it.

The tech does not make the celestial.

With Galactus tech Doom stripped Galactus of his powers. Thats a precedent. With little time of prep I admit is unlikely, but its a position that can be defended.

Originally posted by Bentley
With Galactus tech Doom stripped Galactus of his powers. Thats a precedent. With little time of prep I admit is unlikely, but its a position that can be defended.

Doom also was pretty close to Galactus. Unless there are some Celestials floating around Doom won't be able to become one by using just thier tech.

Apocalypse has celestial tech, I don't doubt Doom can use it better -but I doubt they have enough tech to mimic the Galactus feat.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. DS still has reality manip. ANd it's even on a higher lvl than in GDS. In Seven Soldiers he creates actual realities. Mister Miracle also comments that no one has TP that can match DS's own. DS doesn't need to Mind Rape Juggs. He is strong enough to one punch him into the sun. Or just Turn him into an invulnerable new born with the OE. Magneto and Doom are so done for. Neither have a prayer of resisting DS Tp. Even if the could, DS can just turn the Rocks into Giant Monsters and pummel them. But he's strong enough to literally crush them under his heal. He's back handed Superman So many times, I doubt either of these two will be surviving a full on physical attack from DS. DS has never been retconned. He's still the DS from Precrisis. He is subject to retconns. But it hasn't happened yet. So all of his abilities in the GDS saga are still valid. He still zaps Other beings and takes thier power and adds it to his own. Proof? highfather, jove, Zeus, ares, heracles all had to combine into one being to fight DS. These guys are done for. Thanos can beat them all to hell so I know DS would truly obliterate them.

There is so much wrong in this post i don't know where to begin.

In Seven Soldiers he creates synthetic realities. Synthetic has a whole slew of meanings.
The fact that the story begins, and ends in a blackhole, which he was in for 9 days, tells me that it was an infinite loop of realities in Shilos head. You disagree.

I love how Magneto and Doom, the former of which has Professor Xavier as his main foe, the most skilled and powerful tp on the planet, is done for against Darkseids little seen but vaunted TP.
Get that shit outta here.

Magneto's concrete resistance to TP trumps Darkseids spotty record with it. Same goes for Doom.

Darkseid has been retconned, since the GDS is a Legion story, and the legions continuity was wiped after Zero Hour.
The feats aren't valid if the story has been editorially removed from canon!

It's insanity that i'm even arguing this point with you!

Odin went crazy and began to destroy the universe. Retconned later, but according to you, since Asgard is outside of this universe, it's still valid right?

And if i recall, GDS is where he created Validus right? From a baby?
That feat's no longer valid if the story has been editiorially removed.

You can't be this bullheaded.

The Quintessence combining into the one, is a hella nice feat.

Originally posted by UniOmni
There is so much wrong in this post i don't know where to begin.

In Seven Soldiers he creates synthetic realities. Synthetic has a whole slew of meanings.
The fact that the story begins, and ends in a blackhole, which he was in for 9 days, tells me that it was an infinite loop of realities in Shilos head. You disagree.

I love how Magneto and Doom, the former of which has Professor Xavier as his main foe, the most skilled and powerful tp on the planet, is done for against Darkseids little seen but vaunted TP.
Get that shit outta here.

Magneto's concrete resistance to TP trumps Darkseids spotty record with it. Same goes for Doom.

Darkseid has been retconned, since the GDS is a Legion story, and the legions continuity was wiped after Zero Hour.
The feats aren't valid if the story has been editorially removed from canon!

It's insanity that i'm even arguing this point with you!

Odin went crazy and began to destroy the universe. Retconned later, but according to you, since Asgard is outside of this universe, it's still valid right?

And if i recall, GDS is where he created Validus right? From a baby?
That feat's no longer valid if the story has been editiorially removed.

You can't be this bullheaded.

The Quintessence combining into the one, is a hella nice feat.

Ok let me get you together on esome points. You do realize that Sythetic only means unnatural. Synthetic grass is still grass. YOu also realize that Mister miracle mentions events from seven soldiers in Fire storm. Thus making it cannon.

Mister Miracle also states that DS telepathy is 2nd to none. Charles can't even beat MM in telepathy and Magneto standing up to Charles X is supposed to impress DS. Let's See Magneto and Doom stand up to be ing turned into Stone or Lemons.

Everything DS did in Legion he has done elsewhere. Absorbing beings powers? Check. He's done that to panetheons of Gods. Manipulating Reality and Matter. Check He's done that. He turned the Guy who beat Kalibak's ass into a rock and He dumped Mr. Miracle in those Sythetic Realities.

As far as DS turning Juggy into a baby, you realize DS can age, or Deage someone with The OE. ANd creating Validus is nothing to DS creating Stayne who is far more powerful. A later feat I might Add.

Darkseid wins.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok let me get you together on esome points. You do realize that Sythetic only means unnatural. Synthetic grass is still grass. YOu also realize that Mister miracle mentions events from seven soldiers in Fire storm. Thus making it cannon.

Mister Miracle also states that DS telepathy is 2nd to none. Charles can't even beat MM in telepathy and Magneto standing up to Charles X is supposed to impress DS. Let's See Magneto and Doom stand up to be ing turned into Stone or Lemons.

Everything DS did in Legion he has done elsewhere. Absorbing beings powers? Check. He's done that to panetheons of Gods. Manipulating Reality and Matter. Check He's done that. He turned the Guy who beat Kalibak's ass into a rock and He dumped Mr. Miracle in those Sythetic Realities.

As far as DS turning Juggy into a baby, you realize DS can age, or Deage someone with The OE. ANd creating Validus is nothing to DS creating Stayne who is far more powerful. A later feat I might Add.

Synthetic can mean anything from unnatural to artificial.

And Darkseid having tp and using it all of four times, doesn't trump Professor Xavier, who's the best tper on his earth and was scanning way beyond earth before Magneto altered the planet.

Xavier > Darkseid for consistency.

Max Lord can control Superman, but Darkseid can't.

And i don't understand how you're not getting the fact that Mr.Miracle starting and ending in the same place, implies it all took place in his head.

He wins the majority, surely. But with prep, these guys can do wonders, and its underrating them to suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Synthetic can mean anything from unnatural to artificial.

And Darkseid having tp and using it all of four times, doesn't trump Professor Xavier, who's the best tper on his earth and was scanning way beyond earth before Magneto altered the planet.

Xavier > Darkseid for consistency.

Max Lord can control Superman, but Darkseid can't.

And i don't understand how you're not getting the fact that Mr.Miracle starting and ending in the same place, implies it all took place in his head.

He wins the majority, surely. But with prep, these guys can do wonders, and its underrating them to suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

ZOMG!!1111 Magneto made Darkseid go "NGFH".

Magneto solos this! 10/10

dur

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't give a damn how much prep they have. Do you think these guys could beat Thanos or Odin with Prep? Becuz DS is above Thanos and equal to or above Odin. No amount of prep is going to save these guys from being turned into turtles. Consistancy doesn't really mean anything. The runner doesn't have consistant feats of Superiority But we know he is. And Mr. Miracle aludes that DS has done everything in the BH under his own power and didn't have the ALE. which would mean that DS own Telepathy is Uber. Grant Morrison has said that the story is cannon.
DS has controlled Superman if I'm not mistaken. I have to research. But i'm sure of it. He certainly controlled Kara easily enough. At any rate, DS wins this 10/10. Easily. THanos and ODin would win this just as Easily 10/10.

Darkseid isn't Odin though.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Darkseid isn't Odin though.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Darkseid isn't Odin though.

but hes at least a 5/10 against him

I don't agree.....But i'll walk away.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't agree.....But i'll walk away.

About that zero hour retcon, I wouldn't take that into consideration, it messed with alot of pre-crisis concepts and it created plotholes. If im not mistaken infinite crisis in 2005 brought those back. And besides if the crisis didnt effect the New Gods, than I dont see how zero hour could.

I've waged this war many at time.

Nvr won't change his mind, and i won't bother with a wall.

Zero Hour wiped Legions slate clean.

If Legion wasn't present in GDS, who was Darkseid working
against?!

Apparitions? Ghosts of Kirbalactus? Himon? Irritable bowel syndrome? Clamidia? HIV?

Oh yeah people!!
Buy Two copies of Omega Flight for each copy of 52 you purchase!

If the stories are good and well recieved, chances are it might become an ongoing rather than a mini!

If the Legion was wiped clean, how come the adult Legion is appearing in JSA?!? HUH? HUH?!?