Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Yeah, Krayt's likely already a beast in combat, so when you add in that armour, he'd be very powerful. I'd still give it to Kun though, based on what we know, though I can definitely see the Legacy writers having him do some insane shit in the next few issues.
I agree
Originally posted by jollyjim311
All of that begs for proof. Shatterpoint is mental and physical, and, the orbalisks definately [B]do have a weakspot.
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Proof Jolly?
I would imagine the only shatterpoint would be Bane's face.
Even a gargantuan bird with talons roughly the same size of Bane didn't even leave a mark on the Orbalisk armour. And the enormous force generated by it swooping downwards was said to be enough to "rip another human to shreds."
I would imagine the only shatterpoint would be Bane's face.
Unfortunately, you're neither Bane nor Mace, so you wouldn't know - unless, of course, you had proof that labeled Bane's face to be his only weak-spot.
Even a gargantuan bird with talons roughly the same size of Bane didn't even leave a mark on the Orbalisk armour. And the enormous force generated by it swooping downwards was said to be enough to "rip another human to shreds."
Irrelevant. The bird didn't possess Shatterpoint, nor was it Mace Windu.
Unfortunately, you're neither Bane nor Mace, so you wouldn't know - unless, of course, you had proof that labeled Bane's face to be his only weak-spot.
Excuse me? I wasn't asserting that Bane's face could be his only weak spot. I said, I'd imagine (aka speculate). However I did see an assertion that Mace could break the Orbalisks with punches, and I want definite proof that the armor has shatterpoints like a regular gem.
The only thing I've seen are assumptions based on what Mace could do to a gem. A gem and a piece of armour that can withstand a lightsaber blow or the stress of a gargantuan bird striking it at enormous downward velocities aren't exactly the same.
Irrelevant. The bird didn't possess Shatterpoint[/B]
Right...The impact was said to "tear another victim to shreds", so you'll pardon me if I find it difficult to believe that these things have shatterpoints such that regular punches can exploit them.
Moreover, if these shatterpoints are so easily detectable, why didn't Mace smash Vastor's skull into tiny fragments, like he did the gem? Why didn't each of his punches go through Vastor out of sheer impact? It would lend to the idea that detecting shatterpoints are way harder in a combat scenario as to a relaxed scenario.
I didn't say that the Orbalisks have shatterpoints. I said that Zephiel isn't an authority on it, so he can't say that - assuming they did have them - that Bane's face wasn't the only area vulnerable. I don't have to prove anything.
Secondly, Zephiel, when I say that the "bird didn't have Shatterpoint", what I meant was that it didn't possess the ability to detect Shatterpoints like Mace.
Originally posted by Gideon
I didn't say that the Orbalisks have shatterpoints. I said that Zephiel isn't an authority on it, so he can't say that - assuming they did have them - that Bane's face wasn't the only area vulnerable. I don't have to prove anything.
I didn't claim to be an authority either. I said I would imagine (speculate).
Secondly, Zephiel, when I say that the "bird didn't have Shatterpoint", what I meant was that it didn't possess the ability to detect Shatterpoints like Mace. [/B]
I know what you meant.
For the sake of the argument, let's assume that the Orbalisks do have exploitable shatterpoints. If these shatterpoints existed we don't know whether it would be feasible for Mace to exploit them in a combat situation without getting carved into a turkey. Otherwise Vastor would be a mass of "bones turned to dust," currently.
That is of course, assuming that the Orbalisks do have expoitable or recognizable shatterpoints.