Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hardly.Tanraq just increases his normal power even more and makes Sasquatch virtually unstoppable. Becoming Hulk is Banner's only power.
Actually Hulk and Sasquatch are similar as noted the more pain or rage he feels the stronger he becomes very similar to Hulk. Without Tanaraq, there is no Sasquatch.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But transforming entirely into Tanraq is a step above Banner becoming Hulk IMO.
No, he can get the strength amp without transforming into Tanaraq as he showed with exo-suit Thing (destroying him) and Super Skrull when he got pissed. That's what I have been saying several times now.
Originally posted by King_MungiWhen has Thing ever tried any of those feats? That's right he has not. Sasquatch stated that he is weaker than Thing is. That's that.
Not a chance, when has Thing lifted and dragged a fully equiped destroyer? when has Thing caught a DC-10 that weighed 250 tons and tossed it with it's engines still on that produce 150,000 pounds of thrust 1000 feet...with ease? When has Thing caught and halted a Boxer an interdimensional traps from the Vegan timeline that the Collector thought to be impossible to do? When has Thing become an Elder God, the personification of Death on Earth? When has Super Strong said this about Thing? "and realized with bone-chilling certainty that his full strength (Super Skrull) may not be sufficient" against Sasquatch, etc. Thing doesn't even come close to Sasquatch's feats and that's a fact. Saquatch was never wrecked by the crew, and the Crew that fought Alpha Flight were as stated to have been augmented from the mystical dimension growing stronger by the second and they still lost.As noted, Sasquatch was weakened from the transformation. Actually Thing has stated he was weaker than Sasquatch and Ranark a God vouched for him as well. I think he would know what he is talking about. Thing admitted, "Sheesh! You're bigger, stronger, talk better than me and played pro ball! There must be something I can beat you at!"
Hardly
They must likely voted if Tanaraq is released than Hulk is done.
Can you prove the Wrecking Crew was amped when they destroyed Alpha Flight? Or where is says it in a comic? Cause I read the comic and nothing was mentioned about it.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
When has Thing ever tried any of those feats? That's right he has not. Sasquatch stated that he is weaker than Thing is. That's that.Can you prove the Wrecking Crew was amped when they destroyed Alpha Flight? Or where is says it in a comic? Cause I read the comic and nothing was mentioned about it.
So once again proves my point, as Sasquatch has far superior on panel feats than Thing. Oh that a fact? Then Sasquatch later destroys exo-suit Thing, who Reed made to "restore most of the strength he used to possess"
Thing stating he is weaker, "Sheesh! Your bigger, stronger, talk better than me and played proball! There must be something I can beat you at!":
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/72652_vgrim3.jpg
Ranark saying Sasquatch is "far stronger" than Thing:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_19.jpg
Box who is class 85 admits he isn't half the strength of Sasquatch
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight45-19.jpg
Yes, Northstar comments Thunderball was growing stronger [AF #118]. Thunderball in AF #119 explains his power boost was from the dimension [I will hopefully have that scanned some time in the next few days..hopefully]. Also the tie-in before the Alpha Flight appearance Wrecker and Piledriver were shrugging off blows from Thor and Ulik. Piledriver actually laughed and cracked a joke after the hit by Thor. The Crew have manhandled Thor, and they have done it more than once in the past
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight118-21.jpg
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Sasquatch has stated Thing is stronger than he is. Who's word would you rather take?Thunderball may have been amped cause he was trying to steal the other 3 guys power for himself as the comic states. The Wrecker and Bulldozer were not amped. Nice try though.
Easily Sasquatch as noted he has VASTLY stronger strength feats. He can also become Tanaraq an Elder God, the personification of death on Earth and a being that is older than the Earth
Actually later in the Thor tie-in after the AF battle, they admited the dimension feeded them power, but since they left it for so long they were drained of it. What? No. Thunderball wasn't trying to steal the others powers, they got banished into the dimension as Loki stole their powers in the tie-in and were charged up by the dimension as stated.
Originally posted by King_MungiYou are wrong again. The Thor tie-in issue was before the AF battle and they were not amped when they took out AF.
Easily Sasquatch as noted he has VASTLY stronger strength feats. He can also become Tanaraq an Elder God, the personification of death on Earth and a being that is older than the EarthActually later in the Thor tie-in after the AF battle, they admited the dimension feeded them power, but since they left it for so long they were drained of it. What? No. Thunderball wasn't trying to steal the others powers, they got banished into the dimension as Loki stole their powers in the tie-in and were charged up by the dimension as stated.
Thing is stronger as Saquatch already stated. It's the more recent.
BTW you have scans of the Omega Flight #1 battle?
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
You are wrong again. The Thor tie-in issue was before the AF battle and they were not amped when they took out AF.Thing is stronger as Saquatch already stated. It's the more recent.
BTW you have scans of the Omega Flight #1 battle?
What? yes they were amped they even said it in the comic as they gained power from the dimension. You really didn't read it did you? You even said Thunderball wanted to steal their powers when he never did.
Not really as just last year (Alpha Flight vol.3) he punched a hole in a trans-displacement trap bringing all realties together. He basically punched a hole in reality.
Not yet, I just got home from work. I should have them in the respect thread tommorow. Sasquatch was winning, but had an emotional breakdown and started to cry as he had a flashback of Alpha Flight dying and the Crew threw a tanker on him blowing up and then attacked him on the ground and the issue ended. The fight isn't over yet.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he isn't, I take it you havn't seen Sasquatch feats as the handbook list him at that level, but he has shown to be so much stronger and the fact he can become an Elder God, Tanaraq that would destroy Hulk. Actually Sasqutch stated he didn't want to fight as he felt like the real monster, if he feels pain or rage he can increase his strength via Tanaraq, yet he felt guilt.Incorrect again, he ko'ed the Wrecker and Thunderball with one hit in the upcoming Omega Flight and rumor is he is acutally going to be killing the Wrecking Crew
Ideally that would play more into Sasquatch favor, giving into Tanaraq.
hmmm and yet the handbook was the law and the letter when it came to wendigo.. 🙄
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!😂
Things feats>>Sasquatches feats. That's twice Sasquatch was wrecked by the crew. Things did it twice.A weakened Thing almost broke Sasquatches jaw with a clobberin time punch. Sasquatch has even stated he in nowhere near as strong as Thing. He's supposed to be a genius level intellect so I think he knows what he's talking about.
KMC Sasquatch is overrated big time.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well considering I had scans to back up what the handbook said. Handbooks underestimate people, not over.
nonsense!.. you said that it was impossible for sabretooth to rip wendigo up...
And yet character's have been doing it since his third or fourth appearance.
Wolverine did it easily,
snowbird did it in the form of a REGULAR WOLVERINE (no admantium there).
wolverine did it with bone claws..
and you were were wrong anyways... since that was sabretooth during the weapon x ongoing series.. so HE HAD ADMANTIUM.... 😐
I can just as easily post scans that support myself as well...
but you're arguments more credible because you have feats that ARE NOT COMPARITIVE and a handbook that's ambiguous and wrong?... uh-huh 😐
hell you've stated on multiple occasions that wendigo is the same wendigo that appeared in amazing spiderman and yet your handbooks, as well as pretty much EVERY OTHER wendigo appearance support the claim that they are in fact UNRELATED... pfffft....
BAH I SAY TO YOUR HANDBOOKS! HOGWASH!
you can't just pick and chose when the handbooks are the lawa and the letter just because they suit you at the time. 🤨
Originally posted by Sabretooth
Precisely. Placing a restriction on Tanaraq is like forcing Banner to fight without being able to turn in to the Hulk.
I don't view it that way... it's like arguing that hulk's going to go devil hulk for every fight just because in certain circumstances he can... walter may be able to transform into taneraq but it happens so few and far between that I see no reason to assume it'll be the standard on these fights. 😬
Originally posted by jinzin
nonsense!.. you said that it was impossible for sabretooth to rip wendigo up...
And yet character's have been doing it since his third or fourth appearance.Wolverine did it easily,
snowbird did it in the form of a REGULAR WOLVERINE (no admantium there).
wolverine did it with bone claws..and you were were wrong anyways... since that was sabretooth during the weapon x ongoing series.. so HE HAD ADMANTIUM.... 😐
I can just as easily post scans that support myself as well...
but you're arguments more credible because you have feats that ARE NOT COMPARITIVE and a handbook that's ambiguous and wrong?... uh-huh 😐
hell you've stated on multiple occasions that wendigo is the same wendigo that appeared in amazing spiderman and yet your handbooks, as well as pretty much EVERY OTHER wendigo appearance support the claim that they are in fact UNRELATED... pfffft....
BAH I SAY TO YOUR HANDBOOKS! HOGWASH!
No they didn't, and Sabertooth killed him with his regular claws not even adamintium and a feat as stated you can't do. Wendigo can't be killed,
No Wolverine did not do it that easily as noted when he had adamintium he struggled and was shock he didn't do more damage than he did. Later bone claw scratches Wendigo's eye when Wolverine with adamintium claws couldn't do it.
Snowbird is mystical and from the same people who created the Wendigo.
Nope, it was without adamintium I checked. If he did then that's fine, yet skinning Wendigo the way he did? nuh uh.
I basically have posted all of Wendigo's apperances sans one.
What are you talking about? As noted by Shaman and SNowbird the Gods of the Artic have put a spell protecting his durability as noted.
Where did I state it was the same Wendigo? As it wasn't, he was scared off by Wolverine yelling at him. Uh huh...he was actually a peaceful Wendigo, that is not the same Wendigo
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't view it that way... it's like arguing that hulk's going to go devil hulk for every fight just because in certain circumstances he can... walter may be able to transform into taneraq but it happens so few and far between that I see no reason to assume it'll be the standard on these fights. 😬
No, if you actually read his apperances you would know as stated he is constantly at threat of Tanaraq taking over.
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't view it that way... it's like arguing that hulk's going to go devil hulk for every fight just because in certain circumstances he can... walter may be able to transform into taneraq but it happens so few and far between that I see no reason to assume it'll be the standard on these fights. 😬
I was just about to say something like this but you beat me to it. To me... I think Banner should be in the equation as much as Tanaraq.
The battle doesn't say So and so vs. Banner or So and so vs. Tanaraq
It says Hulk and Sasquatch.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I was just about to say something like this but you beat me to it. To me... I think Banner should be in the equation as much as Tanaraq.The battle doesn't say So and so vs. Banner or So and so vs. Tanaraq
It says Hulk and Sasquatch.
Except as I mentioned a few times in this thread, Tanaraq can increase Sasquatch strength without actually turning into Tanaraq. He is like Hulk with rage increasing his strength.
Anyways Hulk wins this, no one is doubting that
